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Elderbean posted:Yeah, Fringe starts as a 'monster of the week' show and eventually stumbles into something more focused. It's weird. And like every single seemingly self contained monster of the week comes back as part of the grand plan. They got really lucky that renewal let them pull it off, it was a hell of a gamble.
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I just finished watching Europa Report, and god it's got the worst sci-fi tropes and the worst found footage tropes. Particularly, the best and brightest astronauts do stupid and emotional thing but also No redundancy in the comm system? Some super toxic chemical that will kill them all, but no decon options? Pilot leaving the controls to dump the water shield which of course isn't doable from the controls?
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mobby_6kl posted:I was just watching some Fringe on recommendation and it's really bad with this. At least Olivia is an actual agent and not a science nerd, but still she always charges in while geared SWAT guys follow her lead. Also her not-FBI sidekick is also always present and has free reign on the crime scenes. The best part is where they started trying to make Peter as badass as Olivia by having him kick down in every other episode.
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Dec 6, 2014 06:13
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Elendil004 posted:I just finished watching Europa Report Some super toxic chemical that will kill them all, but no decon options? This is actually true to life. Hydrazine is nasty poo poo, used as propellent for directional thrusters.
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Dec 6, 2014 08:53
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Mans posted:That and detectives suddenly acting as SWAT operatives. This happened all the time on 24, but to be fair it was Jack motherfucking Bauer leading the charge to waste some fools while the SWAT troopers played slapdick behind him. Also, he up-gunned to an assault rifle or something every now and then instead of just his pistol.
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Dec 6, 2014 11:07
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OldMold posted:This is actually true to life. Hydrazine is nasty poo poo, used as propellent for directional thrusters. Sure, but no decon procedure? Not too mention the two of them being tethered together, not individually was just the dumbest. They easily could have brought the leaky guy in, cycled the airlock then brought in dipshit McHydrazine, left the space a vacuum while they figured out how to decon him. Elendil004 has a new favorite as of 13:40 on Dec 6, 2014 |
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Dec 6, 2014 13:35
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ninjahedgehog posted:This happened all the time on 24, but to be fair it was Jack motherfucking Bauer leading the charge to waste some fools while the SWAT troopers played slapdick behind him. Would you expect anything less from Big Boss
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Dec 6, 2014 21:26
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In the TV show The Dresden Files the main character, Harry Dresden, has a ghost called Bob haunting his house/shop. Bob is visible to everyone and looks and sounds just like a normal person, but always hides whenever any recurring character shows up. There doesn't seem to be any reason for this. Harry could just say "This is my friend Bob." and no one would question that. And he has no problem showing himself to random side characters. He even greets a customer when Harry's gone out in one episode. It doesn't make sense that he's always hiding.
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Dec 10, 2014 16:12
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I just watched State of Emergency which was a pretty solid little zombie flick. 4 people hide out in a barn, one goes into diabetic shock or something, one goes looking for medicine, zombies get in, poo poo happens. Nice movie. There are two guns in the entire movie, a shotgun, and a bolt action rifle. The main character uses the rifle, his buddy uses the shotgun. EVERY single time they do something rifle guy goes first, which is loving stupid. They clear a house? Rifle first one through the door, they guard a staircase all night to make sure no one comes up, rifles got watch, they move through tight hallways with corners and no way to know whats ahead? Scope bolt action rifle first. It was a really great movie but that poo poo just took me right out of it. Thats not some navy seal poo poo, its just common sense
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Dec 10, 2014 19:30
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Waroduce posted:It was a really great movie but that poo poo just took me right out of it. Thats not some navy seal poo poo, its just common sense Hollywood gunplay in general is poo poo when it comes to shotguns. Shotguns fire confetti at anything greater than some arbitrary small distance, but inside that, they fire nuclear warheads that tear holes through people and send their corpses flying. Kind of an inverse: I just watched Jack Reacher. Now, of course, there's the irritating bit about that movie that Tom Cruise fits almost zero of the adjectives used to describe Reacher in the books other than 'Caucasian' and 'male', but the odd thing is that it's soured me on other mystery-type movies. Specifically, the way cops tend to gather evidence in those cases. We're supposed to assume in other movies that cops are being diligent when they find evidence that no sane person would have looked for. Instead, in Reacher, the fact that they dumped the parking meter and found the quarter that helped frame Barr was proof that the lead investigator was part of the frame job. Now I won't be able to not think something similar when I see a "why did they even think to look there?" moment in a mystery. What makes it worse is that the very same plot point is used in shittons of mystery books, but it almost never seems to be used in mystery movies, and only very rarely in TV crime dramas (and only when they want to make A Point).
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Dec 10, 2014 19:47
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Tiggum posted:In the TV show The Dresden Files the main character, Harry Dresden, has a ghost called Bob haunting his house/shop. Bob is visible to everyone and looks and sounds just like a normal person, but always hides whenever any recurring character shows up. There doesn't seem to be any reason for this. Harry could just say "This is my friend Bob." and no one would question that. And he has no problem showing himself to random side characters. He even greets a customer when Harry's gone out in one episode. It doesn't make sense that he's always hiding. I always took it as Harry was worried that he would cause some problems since he tended to literally ghost through stuff. Also he wasn't exactly the nicest guy to begin with. Dude was a warlock who did some seriously dark magic. You don't want him running around off his leash if you can help it.
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Speaking of gathering evidence, one thing that has bothered me about The Shield is the bit with Shane and Antwon Mitchel (spelling?). Specifically, the part about the bullets in the girl's body coming from Shane and his partner at the time's gun. Do they regularly check murder bullet ballistics against databases that include cop guns? They made a huge deal about it and it got Shane to do basically whatever he said, but it seemed far-fetched to me that they'd check that. vv I guess I assumed they'd have a database of known guns used in crimes and a separate one for cops, like with fingerprints where if you get fingerprinted for say a government job, you aren't included in searches for murder investigations unless they specifically search for government employees. Also is it really even a thing they can identify a bullet to a specific gun, or is that just tv show/movie magic? yeah I eat ass has a new favorite as of 20:47 on Dec 10, 2014 |
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Dec 10, 2014 20:35
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^^ They would also notice the bullet comes from a gun that the police are issued so that would give them cause. Murphy Brownback posted:Speaking of gathering evidence, one thing that has bothered me about The Shield is the bit with Shane and Antwon Mitchel (spelling?). Specifically, the part about the bullets in the girl's body coming from Shane and his partner at the time's gun. Do they regularly check murder bullet ballistics against databases that include cop guns? They made a huge deal about it and it got Shane to do basically whatever he said, but it seemed far-fetched to me that they'd check that. I assumed they would check it against all databases and their guns are in their. I do not think there is a special cop only one, there is an everyone one. bobkatt013 has a new favorite as of 22:53 on Dec 10, 2014 |
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Dec 10, 2014 20:40
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Go you cant save us! We wont leave you sir! Its impossible you will die too! Never leave a man behind! Go thats a order! Ok we will go or no we will save you ok come save me
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Dec 10, 2014 20:50
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Tiggum posted:In the TV show The Dresden Files the main character, Harry Dresden, has a ghost called Bob haunting his house/shop. Bob is visible to everyone and looks and sounds just like a normal person, but always hides whenever any recurring character shows up. There doesn't seem to be any reason for this. Harry could just say "This is my friend Bob." and no one would question that. And he has no problem showing himself to random side characters. He even greets a customer when Harry's gone out in one episode. It doesn't make sense that he's always hiding. Random one time character people will see him a couple times quickly and then never again. People that are there a lot would see him more if he was around, and therefore someday come to some kind of "hey why don't you come outside" or whatever situation where it would be revealed. Maybe? I dunno how he magically knows who will be reoccurring and not though.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:23
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bobkatt013 posted:^^ They would also notice the bullet comes from a gun that the police are issued so that would give them cause. I don't believe there are databases at all, not like you'd think of a fingerprint database. The idea is that you recover a bullet from a crime scene. If someone comes up with a gun they think might have been used, you fire a bullet from that gun and compare the two bullets.
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Dec 11, 2014 00:46
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Silly Newbie posted:I don't believe there are databases at all, not like you'd think of a fingerprint database. The idea is that you recover a bullet from a crime scene. If someone comes up with a gun they think might have been used, you fire a bullet from that gun and compare the two bullets. That's what I've gathered as well. There is no giant registry of guns, even though some legislators have that as their pipedream. If you have a fired round recovered from the victim along with a suspected murder weapon, you compare the fired slug with an identical one fired through the murder weapon. If the rifling and other marks match up under a microscope, you have a winner. Same goes for things like knife and tool cuts which leave unique markings. Of course this is all boring poo poo that doesn't beep and bloop on a computer screen, so there you go.
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Dec 11, 2014 01:12
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Murphy Brownback posted:Speaking of gathering evidence, one thing that has bothered me about The Shield is the bit with Shane and Antwon Mitchel (spelling?). Specifically, the part about the bullets in the girl's body coming from Shane and his partner at the time's gun. Do they regularly check murder bullet ballistics against databases that include cop guns? They made a huge deal about it and it got Shane to do basically whatever he said, but it seemed far-fetched to me that they'd check that. Antwon Mitchell had re-made himself into this civic leader that was "doing good" for the Farmington community. Rallies, rebuilding houses, all that good PR poo poo. So if Shane doesn't do what he says he'll use his new public image to be all "Yeah, I totally saw that redneck cop and his partner shoot that little girl", and the "evidence" backs up the claim. And honestly, Shane's reputation isn't much better than Antwon's, so it's not like Shane could pull the "They'll believe, I'm a COP!" card to try and get out of it either.
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Dec 11, 2014 01:38
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Tiggum posted:In the TV show The Dresden Files the main character, Harry Dresden, has a ghost called Bob haunting his house/shop. Bob is visible to everyone and looks and sounds just like a normal person, but always hides whenever any recurring character shows up. There doesn't seem to be any reason for this. Harry could just say "This is my friend Bob." and no one would question that. And he has no problem showing himself to random side characters. He even greets a customer when Harry's gone out in one episode. It doesn't make sense that he's always hiding. I haven't seen the show, but from reading the books I'm guessing this is a plot point they were developing but the show probably got cancelled before they could do anything with it.
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gently caress the evidence wall with the red string. It seems so freaking stupid and useless with all those newpaper clippings and other crap randomly put up there. Furthermore, if that string is supposed to tie things together in whatever way, then loving put the evidence piece next to each other on a timeline og something like that. Hulebr00670065006e has a new favorite as of 10:30 on Dec 11, 2014 |
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Dec 11, 2014 09:37
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Hulebr00670065006e posted:gently caress the evidence wall with the red string. It seems so freaking stupid and useless with all those newpaper clippings and other crap randomly put up there. Position on the wall is chronology & location, red string is cause & effect. gently caress, it's like you've never stalked anyone before.
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Dec 11, 2014 12:44
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sassassin posted:Position on the wall is chronology & location, red string is cause & effect. And cause and effect isn't chronological? The string is always crisscrossing like a motherfucker. It shouldn't be.
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Dec 11, 2014 16:08
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Hulebr00670065006e posted:And cause and effect isn't chronological? The string is always crisscrossing like a motherfucker. It shouldn't be. When I slashed her tires she went to the tire place a day later. I place the string between the two events because they are linked but lots of other stuff happened in different places in between and they won't be next to each other. She went to this place because her uncle (fig. b Family, top right of the board) owns it so that's another string. And it made her stop into Starbucks b instead of Starbucks a which is near her work. Life is complicated, but you can make sense of it with enough string.
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Dec 11, 2014 16:22
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Hulebr00670065006e posted:And cause and effect isn't chronological? The string is always crisscrossing like a motherfucker. It shouldn't be. Yeah but a straight line aint cool, man.
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Dec 11, 2014 16:56
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Hulebr00670065006e posted:gently caress the evidence wall with the red string. It seems so freaking stupid and useless with all those newpaper clippings and other crap randomly put up there. The kind of person depicted doing a newspaper and string project isn't exactly supposed to be sane...
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Dec 11, 2014 17:09
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Yeah even when the hero does it (and hes right) its usually an indicator he's gone way too far into this.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Yeah even when the hero does it (and hes right) its usually an indicator he's gone way too far into this. Or that he's artistic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xTvn0Ob3xo&t=68s
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mng posted:That's what I've gathered as well. There is no giant registry of guns, even though some legislators have that as their pipedream. If you have a fired round recovered from the victim along with a suspected murder weapon, you compare the fired slug with an identical one fired through the murder weapon. If the rifling and other marks match up under a microscope, you have a winner. People would be shocked if they knew just how much anti scientific guesswork was involved in forensics. Matching bullets is pretty much subjective and pretty useless in a lot of cases.
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mng posted:That's what I've gathered as well. There is no giant registry of guns, even though some legislators have that as their pipedream. If you have a fired round recovered from the victim along with a suspected murder weapon, you compare the fired slug with an identical one fired through the murder weapon. If the rifling and other marks match up under a microscope, you have a winner. Okay now explain the scene in the Dark Knight where Bruce uses a cannon on a rail to shoot bricks. What the gently caress was that supposed to prove?
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Kruller posted:Okay now explain the scene in the Dark Knight where Bruce uses a cannon on a rail to shoot bricks. What the gently caress was that supposed to prove? If you had a cannon, you wouldn't shoot things, like bricks, and pretend it was part of your job?
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Kruller posted:Okay now explain the scene in the Dark Knight where Bruce uses a cannon on a rail to shoot bricks. What the gently caress was that supposed to prove? "I have a minigun chambered in 9mm and I'm going to loving shoot a brick because I'm Batman." 
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"Hey Lucius, watch this!" BANG BANG BANG "...and what was that supposed to prove, Mr. Wayne?" "gently caress YOU I'M BATMAN"
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Kruller posted:Okay now explain the scene in the Dark Knight where Bruce uses a cannon on a rail to shoot bricks. What the gently caress was that supposed to prove? Batman is the world's greatest detective
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Pope Corky the IX posted:"Hey Lucius, watch this!" "What are you going to do with this evidence?" "Find a bad guy and beat him unconscious with it  "
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RagnarokAngel posted:Yeah even when the hero does it (and hes right) its usually an indicator he's gone way too far into this. This company is being bled like a stuck pig, Mac, and I've got the paper trail to prove it.
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ninjahedgehog posted:This company is being bled like a stuck pig, Mac, and I've got the paper trail to prove it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ubs6iUMdyo
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I'm binge watching Supernatural at the moment, and something that keeps popping out to me is one of the leads gets super impatient when they're getting information about something. Like: "What can you tell me about this demon unicorn?" "well they feed on munchkins and can only be killed in one way" *nanosecond later* "YES WHAT IS IT?!" Calm down, dude, he was gonna tell you in a second, sheesh. I've seen that stuff before but can't remember any specific examples. I also notice a lot of movies where there is non-English dialogue between two parties. There's of course always subtitles in English, but still they change between English and whatever every couple of sentences. Are audiences really so dumb they can't follow subtitles for a short scene? I dunno, it just seems arbitrary.
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Dec 12, 2014 21:58
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mng posted:
Yes. Yes they are.
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Len posted:Yes. Yes they are. I'm trying to have faith here, man! 
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That reminds me, the non-engish conversations in Agents of SHIELD say gently caress it and don't sub a drat thing. People will have a whole conversation in Russian or whatever and you don't know what the hell they are saying, and it's ok. The world doesn't end or anything.
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