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I don't think there's anything going on for black after white plays d3. c2 gets shut down by a2 and e1 is runed by c1 followed j1. Or maybe it's black to live and the trick is making seki by grabbing f1. Either way it's not too bad of a problem, but it would be cooler if it was under the stones for black
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(Note: I have a folder of random tsumego. When I transcribe tsumego there I change them to Black-to-play, but sometimes I mess that up. Also, I don't write answers down.) Can't Black playing first live with any of E1, F1, or G1? What's your seki variation? (EDIT: I didn't bother to read but maybe even C1 or J1 first is good enough.)
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Dec 6, 2014 02:23
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Xom posted:EDIT: Help, I can't find what's supposed to be hard about this problem, no matter whose play it is; am I missing something? Can't help you if you don't provide proposed solution! Bats just did a good video on a couple of Go Seigen's best moments. Some of the reading is insane! http://youtu.be/54iLsl1SErE
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Dec 6, 2014 09:26
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o.m. 94 posted:Can't help you if you don't provide proposed solution! Proposed solution for Black-to-play: B e1, B f1, or B g1 (non-exhaustive) to live unconditionally I posted because it seems too easy, and yet Hels says seki?
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Dec 6, 2014 09:40
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When will Iyama Yuta ever win all seven titles at once?
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Dec 6, 2014 20:11
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Black to play. In the time I've spent thinking about this problem I've done 15 other intermediate ones.
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Dec 7, 2014 04:27
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AdorableStar posted:Black to play. In the time I've spent thinking about this problem I've done 15 other intermediate ones. E18 looks kind of okay.. let me play it on the board when i get back.
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Dec 7, 2014 12:18
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Senor P. posted:E18 looks kind of okay.. let me play it on the board when i get back. E18 and D19 both seem to lead to ko as far as I can tell. I feel like the actual answer is going to involve D18 and a sacrifice at E17 but I can't seem to make it work.
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Dec 7, 2014 18:35
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xopods posted:E18 and D19 both seem to lead to ko as far as I can tell. Found the variation. Guess I needed to sleep on it because trying the clamp and white 2 in response didn't work for me last night. Also, D18 will not work because white E18 is a stone solid response. Even if you did throw in at E17, white just gives up the two stones; it's life and death not endgame. 
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Dec 7, 2014 19:25
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AdorableStar posted:Found the variation. Guess I needed to sleep on it because trying the clamp and white 2 in response didn't work for me last night. Also, D18 will not work because white E18 is a stone solid response. Even if you did throw in at E17, white just gives up the two stones; it's life and death not endgame. This is the ko line. I'm just not sure that we can't do better. One reason I don't think this is the answer is because B1 and B3 seem to be interchangeable, whereas in most tsumego the order of moves matters. I didn't say you throw in at E17 immediately after D18 btw. I was trying things like descending after D18 and keeping the throw-in in reserve if White tries to make an eye there. Like I said, though, I didn't find anything that quite works.
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Dec 7, 2014 19:33
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xopods posted:This is the ko line. I'm just not sure that we can't do better. One reason I don't think this is the answer is because B1 and B3 seem to be interchangeable, whereas in most tsumego the order of moves matters. How do you kill if white E18 in response to D19 as a first move? It seems to me like white can get an eye at F17 or two in the corner by playing the 1-2 point (or c19 I guess) and cutting off your stone.
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Dec 7, 2014 19:43
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xopods posted:in most tsumego the order of moves matters.
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Dec 7, 2014 19:57
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Xom posted:I don't know exactly how tasuki's Cho collections were extracted, but definitely all bets are off. At least one (Elementary #218) even has no solution. I think those are intentional; sometimes, in a real game, there is often no solution. 
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Dec 7, 2014 22:58
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AdorableStar posted:How do you kill if white E18 in response to D19 as a first move? It seems to me like white can get an eye at F17 or two in the corner by playing the 1-2 point (or c19 I guess) and cutting off your stone. You may be right. I am very bad at tsumego. I mean, if you answer E18 with D18 to try to falsify the eye, then that actually reverts to what I was trying when you start with D18 and then sagari, which doesn't quite seem to work.
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Dec 9, 2014 12:29
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New magnetic board with stones that you can almost barely hold properly.
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Dec 11, 2014 02:11
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Heads-up that I just requested to be added to the SA group on OGS (OGS name is my username)
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Trying to teach my 21 month-old son to play. No handicap to start with, but he's playing like five stones per turn, which is going to make it tough. On the other hand, he's putting most of them on the first and second lines, so maybe it'll work out.
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Dec 13, 2014 01:09
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xopods posted:Trying to teach my 21 month-old son to play. No handicap to start with, but he's playing like five stones per turn, which is going to make it tough. On the other hand, he's putting most of them on the first and second lines, so maybe it'll work out. Give him Yang Yilun's ingenious life and death volume 2 for Christmas. Trust me, he'll appreciate it more than clothes.
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Dec 13, 2014 05:41
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AdorableStar posted:Give him Yang Yilun's ingenious life and death volume 2 for Christmas. Trust me, he'll appreciate it more than clothes. No joke, one of his favorite books right now is Monkey Jump Workshop. Not that he actually likes it read to him, but he likes the color pink and understands the title and finds it evocative, so he keeps getting it off the shelf and bringing it to me, going "monkey jump monkey jump monkey jump."
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Dec 13, 2014 05:48
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xopods posted:No joke, one of his favorite books right now is Monkey Jump Workshop. Not that he actually likes it read to him, but he likes the color pink and understands the title and finds it evocative, so he keeps getting it off the shelf and bringing it to me, going "monkey jump monkey jump monkey jump." 501 tesuji is a good bedtime story. It's pink too. 
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Thank you guys for helping teach a rank beginner for a little bit today. I feel daunted by how much I just don't know, especially since the people around me won't even play with me because I'm so much better than them. And I can't be more than 25kyu, if that high! The difference even the tiniest bit of skill seems to make is incredible in this game...
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Dec 13, 2014 07:12
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"Monkey Jump" is the best baduk term.
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Iunnrais posted:Thank you guys for helping teach a rank beginner for a little bit today. I feel daunted by how much I just don't know, especially since the people around me won't even play with me because I'm so much better than them. And I can't be more than 25kyu, if that high! The difference even the tiniest bit of skill seems to make is incredible in this game... One of the best things about Go is at every rank you'll learn something that completely shifts your perspective on the game. Anyway, it can be hard to get KGS games initially at 20+, but make sure you get automatch on, be patient, and soon your rank will settle and getting games will take no more than 2 mins tops. Also get goons to review, they're a friendly bunch
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I started playing on OGS because it was easier to get bot games than in KGS; would y'all recommend I switch over to KGS? It seems like more of you play there. Also, could I get access to ITGO?
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Symbolic Butt posted:"Monkey Jump" is the best baduk term. HAENGMA
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How would I go about getting a review of a game I just played on OGS? It was my first game where I wasn't just completely destroyed, so I'm pretty proud of that.
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giogadi posted:How would I go about getting a review of a game I just played on OGS? It was my first game where I wasn't just completely destroyed, so I'm pretty proud of that. 2) Upload it to eidogo and ask here.
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I think I'll play some Go again. Care to add me to the OGS group? My username is cerror
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have any of you done 'malkovitch' games? i'm thinking of trying one but am not sure how much i'll get out of it since most of my moves are made because 'it looks like a goodish spot'
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uranus posted:have any of you done 'malkovitch' games? i'm thinking of trying one but am not sure how much i'll get out of it since most of my moves are made because 'it looks like a goodish spot' In a game I did against Oiseaux a few months ago I made a few malkovich journal entries when I was planning something. It didn't work out, so the journal entry just makes me look kinda dumb.
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giogadi posted:How would I go about getting a review of a game I just played on OGS? It was my first game where I wasn't just completely destroyed, so I'm pretty proud of that. Just post a link to the game, its web based so if you find it in your history and post the URL we'll review it
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uranus posted:have any of you done 'malkovitch' games? i'm thinking of trying one but am not sure how much i'll get out of it since most of my moves are made because 'it looks like a goodish spot' Go for it! You must also remember that, at least in the opening, 'it looks like a goodish spot' is not bad, its what Dan players think too.
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comaerror posted:I think I'll play some Go again. Care to add me to the OGS group? My username is cerror I didn't see the notification, so presumably you're in. Let me know if not
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uranus posted:have any of you done 'malkovitch' games? i'm thinking of trying one but am not sure how much i'll get out of it since most of my moves are made because 'it looks like a goodish spot' I did one with prodigious, let me dig it up Starts here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2891609&pagenumber=39&perpage=40#post392455830 I enjoyed this game, should do it again sometime. Under 15 fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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This month's bargain books haul ($4.25):
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Where did you get these?
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How is Vital Points of Go? I don't have that one.
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AdorableStar posted:Where did you get these? Borachon posted:How is Vital Points of Go? I don't have that one. Robert Jasiek @ rec.games.go posted:It would be interesting to see what a high level translator like John Power or James Davies could do with 'Vital points'.
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