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Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


I'm losing track of whether I'm reading the SH/SC work bitch thread or the personal finance bad with money schadenfreude thread. Thanks, Obama coffee chat.

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Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Mr. Fix It posted:

I'm losing track of whether I'm reading the SH/SC work bitch thread or the personal finance bad with money schadenfreude thread. Thanks, Obama coffee chat.

Working in IT seems to generally be bad with money, at least compared to working in business or maybe plumbing.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Che Delilas posted:

This is the internet, where everyone is right, everyone else is wrong, and "compromise" and "tolerance" have been debunked as urban myths (check snopes, idiots).

If our profession has taught us anything it is that 'compromise' and 'tolerance' lead to sales people and HR having a say

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



We have a WMF machine that grinds beans and makes coffee. Except it produces craptastic coffee and I don't know why, probably because noone cleans it. Someone donated a coffee grinder and a drip machine... except the grinder is the kind that just chops and not a burr grinder.

I have 2 months left here and I'm seriously contemplating bringing my burr grinder in from home every monday and bringing it back every friday just to cope.

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy
I make all this money in IT but I don't have a girlfriend to spend it on, it is a bittersweet catch-22 that ends with Starbucks K-Cups and takeout lunches.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Wasn't there a guy in this thread who had his personal k-cup machine taken by one of the c-levels to be used in a board room meeting or something ?

Blackswordca or dick trauma or mooey or one of the other helldesk slaves of old.

FreshFeesh
Jun 3, 2007

Drum Solo
It was either here or in the TPS thread, I definitely remember that one.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

spankmeister posted:

Wasn't there a guy in this thread who had his personal k-cup machine taken by one of the c-levels to be used in a board room meeting or something ?

Blackswordca or dick trauma or mooey or one of the other helldesk slaves of old.

Of all the poo poo stories of poo poo things happening, for some reason this one bothers me the most.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Renegret posted:

Of all the poo poo stories of poo poo things happening, for some reason this one bothers me the most.

Putting up with poo poo from others is one thing, but having your personal poo poo appropriated crosses a line.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Renegret posted:

Of all the poo poo stories of poo poo things happening, for some reason this one bothers me the most.

My desktop guy took my personal laptop off my desk, shut it down, and gave it to some random person to use for a loaner for the rest of the day. You could say that I went through several phases of emotions when I got back to my desk and my laptop was missing.

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy

Sickening posted:

My desktop guy took my personal laptop off my desk, shut it down, and gave it to some random person to use for a loaner for the rest of the day. You could say that I went through several phases of emotions when I got back to my desk and my laptop was missing.

You are logged in as user "Sickening." You have chosen to reset that password for your local user account.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Roargasm posted:

You are logged in as user "Sickening." You have chosen to reset that password for your local user account.

He did take the time to add it to the domain apparently. I was more peeved that it was shutdown because I was converting some videos.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Sickening posted:

My desktop guy took my personal laptop off my desk, shut it down, and gave it to some random person to use for a loaner for the rest of the day. You could say that I went through several phases of emotions when I got back to my desk and my laptop was missing.

Holy poo poo. Tell me there were consequences for pulling that poo poo.

And that's why I lock my personal electronics in my filing drawers when I'm going to be away. Granted it's just a Steelcase, but it's enough for a restricted area.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Sickening posted:

My desktop guy took my personal laptop off my desk, shut it down, and gave it to some random person to use for a loaner for the rest of the day. You could say that I went through several phases of emotions when I got back to my desk and my laptop was missing.

Laptop lock time brother. I have mine locked up at all times and the password hint is "gently caress off this a my personal laptop". I don't give a poo poo if some one wants to my borrow my MacBook because they hate your loaner dell. You can kiss my rear end.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



jaegerx posted:

Laptop lock time brother. I have mine locked up at all times and the password hint is "gently caress off this a my personal laptop". I don't give a poo poo if some one wants to my borrow my MacBook because they hate your loaner dell. You can kiss my rear end.

That's brilliant, I'll have to do the same.

I do bring my personal laptop into work a *lot* since I'm a slave to Omnifocus and Omnigraffle. I should probably get a kensignton lock for it rather than lock it away when I'm not at my desk.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

jaegerx posted:

Laptop lock time brother. I have mine locked up at all times and the password hint is "gently caress off this a my personal laptop". I don't give a poo poo if some one wants to my borrow my MacBook because they hate your loaner dell. You can kiss my rear end.

Its a secure office with me and my desktop guy in it. Security cams, badge acces, and all. I am not going to lock it. It can't walk away without knowing who took it and its not like a visitor can make it back here.

KaneTW
Dec 2, 2011

Sickening posted:

My desktop guy took my personal laptop off my desk, shut it down, and gave it to some random person to use for a loaner for the rest of the day. You could say that I went through several phases of emotions when I got back to my desk and my laptop was missing.

I'd be up a loving wall, holy poo poo.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


flosofl posted:

That's brilliant, I'll have to do the same.

I do bring my personal laptop into work a *lot* since I'm a slave to Omnifocus and Omnigraffle. I should probably get a kensignton lock for it rather than lock it away when I'm not at my desk.

Ditto. I work on Linux servers and they try to expect me to work off a managed dell windows laptop. Yeah that poo poo ain't happening. I can't even get a Linux vm installed. They say putty is good enough.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Sickening posted:

Its a secure office with me and my desktop guy in it. Security cams, badge acces, and all. I am not going to lock it. It can't walk away without knowing who took it and its not like a visitor can make it back here.

But he already took your poo poo once. What if it happens again and someone spills coffee on it? I mean I guess but my poo poo is my poo poo. Do not touch it.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

jaegerx posted:

But he already took your poo poo once. What if it happens again and someone spills coffee on it? I mean I guess but my poo poo is my poo poo. Do not touch it.

It was an honest mix up and we don't exactly have a lot of history. The chances of him taking my laptop again are pretty low. Even if someone it does happen and tragedy strikes, the company will just buy me another. I would order it on the company's account that day, I simply give no fucks.

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

jaegerx posted:

Ditto. I work on Linux servers and they try to expect me to work off a managed dell windows laptop. Yeah that poo poo ain't happening. I can't even get a Linux vm installed. They say putty is good enough.

I've spent my entire career working on and developing for UNIX/Linux servers. Please provide a reason why putty is not good enough and a VM on your company's VMware/hyper-v/aws/whatever infra is not good enough, because this worked fine for everyone I knew and myself. Obviously native Linux is nicer in some ways, but 95% of your work as an admin/engineer will be over ssh anyway.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


evol262 posted:

I've spent my entire career working on and developing for UNIX/Linux servers. Please provide a reason why putty is not good enough and a VM on your company's VMware/hyper-v/aws/whatever infra is not good enough, because this worked fine for everyone I knew and myself. Obviously native Linux is nicer in some ways, but 95% of your work as an admin/engineer will be over ssh anyway.

Because I live in the command line? Need to transfer files to a bunch of hosts? For loop with scp and ssh keys. Need to look up a DNS record. Dig. Need to test a correct web response with auth. Curl. Need to tar up a directory to transfer. Tar. Windows requires me to click around a gui. That slows me down.

As I said. I wasn't allowed a Linux vm on my workstation.

Cygwin won't cut it and I don't think I could install it since I don't have admin on windows.

Exit Strategy
Dec 10, 2010

by sebmojo

jaegerx posted:

Laptop lock time brother. I have mine locked up at all times and the password hint is "gently caress off this a my personal laptop". I don't give a poo poo if some one wants to my borrow my MacBook because they hate your loaner dell. You can kiss my rear end.

"This machine is the property of [Exit Strategy], and is not under any circumstances to be used by unauthorized individuals. Unauthorized access to this system may incur physical penalties not excluding incarceration by law enforcement, unconsciousness, and in some extreme cases death. You may not use this machine."

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

jaegerx posted:

Because I live in the command line? Need to transfer files to a bunch of hosts? For loop with scp and ssh keys. Need to look up a DNS record. Dig. Need to test a correct web response with auth. Curl. Need to tar up a directory to transfer. Tar. Windows requires me to click around a gui. That slows me down.

As I said. I wasn't allowed a Linux vm on my workstation.

Cygwin won't cut it and I don't think I could install it since I don't have admin on windows.

This is an absurd response which doesn't deal with the very likely reality of a jump host, dev VM on some infra that's not your laptop/workstation (uncontrolled VMs are a no-no in some environments). vSphere? XenServer? Openstack? If there's not a virtual environment somewhere you can request a VM on, go to a company which isn't mired in 2005.

That aside, you can script all this stuff on Windows, too (with winscp or another scp utility). It's not like the tools don't exist, and learning them will make you a better engineer.

Countless Linux people have had to do this. It's not a big deal, really.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


evol262 posted:

This is an absurd response which doesn't deal with the very likely reality of a jump host, dev VM on some infra that's not your laptop/workstation (uncontrolled VMs are a no-no in some environments). vSphere? XenServer? Openstack? If there's not a virtual environment somewhere you can request a VM on, go to a company which isn't mired in 2005.

That aside, you can script all this stuff on Windows, too (with winscp or another scp utility). It's not like the tools don't exist, and learning them will make you a better engineer.

Countless Linux people have had to do this. It's not a big deal, really.

Ok

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

My personal laptop is a netbook running Linux. Anytime anyone at work sees it I get asked either "How can you see anything on a screen that small?" or "What kind of Windows is that?".

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Knormal posted:

My personal laptop is a netbook running Linux. Anytime anyone at work sees it I get asked either "How can you see anything on a screen that small?" or "What kind of Windows is that?".

Yeah, I get "how did you manage to get one of those?"

"With lots of money."

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

Volmarias posted:

Working in IT seems to generally be bad with money, at least compared to working in business or maybe plumbing.

Bad with money, but good at earning it, so it balances out. Thanks to this thread alone i've gotten my pay up by about 22%.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

jaegerx posted:

Laptop lock time brother. I have mine locked up at all times and the password hint is "gently caress off this a my personal laptop". I don't give a poo poo if some one wants to my borrow my MacBook because they hate your loaner dell. You can kiss my rear end.

I found having Linux installed on my personal laptop has stopped anyone from wanting to screw with it, or having the slightest loving idea of how to even get into it. The downside is that I can't actually use it for work, since security requires all hardware on the internal network be IT Security approved, which includes giving them full access to it.

No, you can't have my porn stash!

jaegerx posted:

Ditto. I work on Linux servers and they try to expect me to work off a managed dell windows laptop. Yeah that poo poo ain't happening. I can't even get a Linux vm installed. They say putty is good enough.

As said, an unmanaged VM can be a risk, but I was able to justify the one on my desktop machine by pointing out that I also use it as a test system for commands and scripts that might do something unexpected(not a real concern since I have half an idea of what I am doing, but it justified the VM)

Rohaq
Aug 11, 2006

NZAmoeba posted:

Look into Xero as a Quickbooks alternative. Entirely online, so no BS about installed app versions, it's just a website, and the support is completely free.

Also at least 3 goons work in the Ops team there.

edit: 4, 4 goons!
Based in New Zealand, right? I seem to recall messaging you about it some time ago!

In related news, tomorrow I'm flying to Auckland, New Zealand for five weeks to avoid our evil British winter and see family. I can't wait! Partially because I've moved roles at work, yet I'm still being stuck with work from my old role, since I'm one of the few people who can do it - hopefully going without me for over a month will give the appropriate people the kick up the arse to actually find other people to take that over.

dennyk
Jan 2, 2005

Cheese-Buyer's Remorse

jaegerx posted:

Because I live in the command line? Need to transfer files to a bunch of hosts? For loop with scp and ssh keys. Need to look up a DNS record. Dig. Need to test a correct web response with auth. Curl. Need to tar up a directory to transfer. Tar. Windows requires me to click around a gui. That slows me down.

As I said. I wasn't allowed a Linux vm on my workstation.

Cygwin won't cut it and I don't think I could install it since I don't have admin on windows.

Why won't Cygwin cut it? It has all of those tools. I do all my work on a Windows laptop with Cygwin and PuTTY. And yes, you can install Cygwin without admin rights.

KaneTW
Dec 2, 2011

I don't really see how PuTTY and a remote VM can't cut it, because that's what I've been using forever now and I haven't run into an issue yet that'd require me to install a local VM or a native Linux.

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

flosofl posted:

Holy poo poo. Tell me there were consequences for pulling that poo poo.

And that's why I lock my personal electronics in my filing drawers when I'm going to be away. Granted it's just a Steelcase, but it's enough for a restricted area.

Yeah, sickening gets reprimanded for having his personal crap at work.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


dennyk posted:

Why won't Cygwin cut it? It has all of those tools. I do all my work on a Windows laptop with Cygwin and PuTTY. And yes, you can install Cygwin without admin rights.

Cygwin doesn't have sshfs, which I can't live without, but that isn't one of the tools they mentioned. :shrug:

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


It's mostly a preference for me really. I need a local Unix console. Csshx. Vim locally when I don't want to fire up a full blown ide. If you can do your job via putty more power to you but I need a local console and not having to click through a gui to do what I need to do.

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

A ticket came in on friday...

...and kept coming in, all weekend, through today. I work for a company that does retail. The server that does rewards (tracking purchases, issuing/redeeming coupons, whatnot) is also somehow the server that sales go to (not final day sales, but on-the-fly numbers that are used to send out a report to basically the whole company that shows how the stores and the departments are doing 4 times a day). Well that server is not doing so well right now. I'm sitting in the same physical location as it (it's maybe 100 feet away from me) right now. I'm seeing ping times in the triple digits, sometimes over 1000ms. Not every ping, but enough of them. Average ping time is 40ms right now. For me, in the same building. For our stores that are up to 600 miles away with horrible MPLS connections...not going great.

The rewards are mostly not working. The reports are mostly not working (and have been canceled 3 out of the last 5 times just so people don't lose their poo poo). The sysadmins who can fix it don't really care. It's like pulling teeth to even get one to answer an email. Then there is a lot of finger pointing ("oh, i thought Other Sysadmin was working on it")

So it's been great working last night and tonight. I've been doing a lot of CYA documentation on tickets. Can't blame me for something I can't fix!

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

myron cope posted:

Can't blame me for something I can't fix!

If this thread has taught me nothing else, it's that what you just said is utterly false. Prepare to be reamed!

nexxai
Jul 17, 2002

quack quack bjork
Fun Shoe

myron cope posted:

Can't blame me for something I can't fix!
lol you must be new here

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

No actually one nice thing about where I work is that there's fairly little that actually results in punishment or even blame. They don't really care (and it shows)

So I don't actually know if that's a "nice" thing...

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Migishu
Oct 22, 2005

I'll eat your fucking eyeballs if you're not careful

Grimey Drawer
Is all blackswordca's fault

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