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kalstrams posted:Remember 3000 subscriber registration at Roskomnadzor requirement for bloggers law? Russian Internet community decided to give a helping hand to Maksim Ksenzov, vice-chair of Roskomnadzor, and has started to push his Twitter account (Law extends to Twitter too.) to 3 thousand follower mark. Source. It says that account doesn't exist. 
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:It says that account doesn't exist. Well, yes, that's the point. It used to exist, it doesn't now. Archive snapshot from September
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Huh, there are some really interesting articles on that website. Thanks for sharing, kalstrams.
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my dad posted:Huh, there are some really interesting articles on that website. Thanks for sharing, kalstrams.  It used to be Habrahabr, but after recent Russian laws owners decided to split it up into Habrahabr and Geektimes. Prior to split, Habrahabr was the most populous and, arguably, the best technically-oriented Russian-speaking community. Still the best, not sure if populous can be applied after the split. Edit1: The split is so that IT topics stay on Habrahabr, but IT fluff and other technical/non-technical stuff, such as space exploration, productivity, learning etc., is now on Geektimes. Edit2: Another confusing economy article on the situation. OSCE people got themselves into slight trouble. Some footage from Ukraine, treat all videos as  :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgtFWaj9RDs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlLKq81Pwlo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55_wtYx55FM Some vehicles, no idea where/who/when, but there were "to Mariupol" inscriptions on some of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8eA4RgN4ho cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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Phlegmish posted:That's interesting, I wonder why that is, considering that there must be legions of methodical German nerds. There are a couple of reasons: 1: The German police/Verfassungsschutz/BND tends to imprison internal "Cyberactivists" instead of recruiting them. 2: German "Data protection laws" make a lot of stuff illegal for the individual that would be legal elsewhere. Effectivly, things that "rookie hackers" could do to learn experience in the USA are already illegal in Germany. 3: German actual "anti hack defence" is often pretty pissed about having their hands tied regarding some "learn from Germany by intensive observation" programs from our "partners" and tends to vent their aggressions on random Germans mini hackers. 4: There is the Chaos computer club, who do some pretty good work, but they are very heavily focused on the defensive side. 5: Germany actually fullfills other countries request of going after, lets say a German hacker dude who did some stuff in lets say Russia. Yes, Russia. They dont extradite him, but yeah, if you hack Russia from Germany you actually get into problems with German law enforcement. 6: Official data protection again got its hands bound by being a) pretty weak politically and often removed from funding and b) a very strictly defensive mission, The thing is, if you are fully defensivly oriented, you often fall behind in offensive schemes, and often wont know the current offensive schemes, and thus wont be able to defend against them. In addition, everyone goes after you because you are really unlikely to hit back. 7: Germany is like, the best Cyber target of the entire world. This means they have a lot of threats to deal with in the same time, and that just overwhelms people. Lots and lots of technology to steal, only average protection (data protection is pretty decentralized, and not taken very seriously by some leading politicians. This means that "chief data protector" is occasionally used as an sinecure for some dude too incompetent to run something important), no counter offensive cyber ability and really reduced diplomatical backlash. UK, USA, France and Israel are "poltically safe" from even the very modest retribution Germany is capable of, so everyone who isnt them pretends to be them while hacking and, as long as his impersonation remains plausible, is pretty much safe too. Generalized comment on spying: Chinese spying in Germany is a bit more interesting, they generally use a humint/sigint dual approach, pretty often via the very ubiquitous Chinese exchange students. Since there are actually tech firms that think "hej, lets hire that hard working Chinese student as our systems administrator for 400 Euro a month" (paying a Sysadmin starvation wages is pretty loving dumb anyway) is a good idea this is pretty successfull. Russia, as far as the actual SVR (distinct from Russian criminal networks) is concerned, tends to use a mixed approach of humint and signint too, but cannot draw upon exchange students to the same extent as China. The Russians tend to like "Evil Maid" exploits a lot. Due to the fact that most German companies have outsourced the facility management/cleaning to some really badly paying companies with pretty high employee fluctuation, there are a lot of options/opportunities to use that. USA is, as far as "industrial anti terror operations" go, a lot more sigint, and often prefers nearly pure sigint stuff.
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Fabulous Knight posted:Although the sanctions do seem to have some effect, I do wonder just how effective they will be in the end. I kind of get the feeling that they might end up being more beneficial for Putin than anything. The Russians are unlikely to not rally around their leader in more difficult times. Nationalist pride could carry them through economic hardships. The destabilization of the Ruble has far more to do with oil prices than anything else, the sanctions themselves were quite modest and haven't really touched how the Russian economy itself functioned. However, the majority of Russian exports are energy related, oil itself is 55%, Russia is a petro-state and a sharp if not vertical dive for oil prices basically is sapping the country of its income. The unilateral import bands may have some effect but my personal experience it was relatively light but oil and the decline of ruble is going to have a much more drastic effect. That article is right, Russians are selling oil in dollars and getting more rubles out, but rubles themselves are worth less and less outside of Russia. If the state wants to subsidize imports or purchase outside goods, it is going to cost a lot more rubles to do it. Also, at some point state employees will demand higher wages because the price of anything imported will go up.
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kalstrams posted:Some footage from Ukraine, treat all videos as Is it just me, or does this last one look fabricated?
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Cuntpunch posted:Is it just me, or does this last one look fabricated?
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Ardennes posted:The destabilization of the Ruble has far more to do with oil prices than anything else, the sanctions themselves were quite modest and haven't really touched how the Russian economy itself functioned. However, the majority of Russian exports are energy related, oil itself is 55%, Russia is a petro-state and a sharp if not vertical dive for oil prices basically is sapping the country of its income. The unilateral import bands may have some effect but my personal experience it was relatively light but oil and the decline of ruble is going to have a much more drastic effect. Yeah just to be clear the sanctions mainly target technology transfers to the oil industry, loans to a few big banks and some douchebags that can't visit their condos in London anymore. If that's all it takes to tank the Russian economy it would have happened anyway eventually. The sanctions by themselves would have shaved a little off Russian growth but that's about it.
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Cuntpunch posted:Is it just me, or does this last one look fabricated? What do you mean? The channel is called "Project Reality", how could it be fake?
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Enjoy some Polish music recorded in New York City in 1927. "Piesn Dziada" performed by Grajek Wiejski https://archive.org/details/04PiesnDziada
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In other news, russia denies that one of their planes almost crashed with a swedish civilian passenger plane earlier this week, claims that NATO did it: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/12/14/russia-denies-its-military-aircraft-nearly-collided-with-passenger-jet-over/
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kalstrams posted:Remember 3000 subscriber registration at Roskomnadzor requirement for bloggers law? Russian Internet community decided to give a helping hand to Maksim Ksenzov, vice-chair of Roskomnadzor, and has started to push his Twitter account (Law extends to Twitter too.) to 3 thousand follower mark. Source. Roskomnadzor SMM division unironically calls its organization "meme police" http://vk.com/wall-76229642_12920
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fatherboxx posted:Roskomnadzor SMM division unironically calls its organization "meme police" 
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Ilustforponydeath posted:In other news, russia denies that one of their planes almost crashed with a swedish civilian passenger plane earlier this week, claims that NATO did it: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/12/14/russia-denies-its-military-aircraft-nearly-collided-with-passenger-jet-over/ It's been confirmed it was a Russian military plane. They're flying with their transponders off so flight control and other planes can't see them. http://www.thelocal.se/20141213/near-miss-in-swedish-airspace-concerns-military In this video clip, a Norwegian F-16 pilot has a bit of a surprise when a Russian MiG shows up less than 20 meters away from him. http://www.dn.se/webb-tv/klipp/nyheter/narkontakt-med-ryskt-flyg/ This clip was released to the public on December 2.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Enjoy some Polish music recorded in New York City in 1927. "Piesn Dziada" performed by Grajek Wiejski https://archive.org/details/04PiesnDziada Hey! That's obviously Bob Dylan, label your links correctly.
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Keep in mind, source is guy who, with respect to Yanukovych, is something similar (relatively) to Navalny in Moscow. Apparently, there was some sort of bandit raid in centre of Kyiv that isn't, by the time the video was made, reported by any Ukrainian media. Bunch of armed men stormed into lecture about some banking stuff, beat everyone, took their belongings and kidnapped the lecturer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPlUHZXJF4E He might come of as pro-Russian weirdo, but in fact he seems to be relatively neutral proponent of Ukrainian unity and integrity. Edit: Got sent interesting debate between some ATO members and one of LPR commanders. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52xlwIQcmDg Edit2: Another interesting piece is supposed meeting of Motorola and Kupol (officer of "cyborgs"). Again, conflicting pieces of information. So, meeting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV7YLkGvRZk Fake-claim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHrPF4njxhE At this point it looks like usual stuff - two opposing points of view. However: Same dude from first video does some debunking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ttNd6Rl5zc Liveleak video, less than 20 hours old, where soldiers for new commander due to Kupol's misbehaviour: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=90b_1418504389 Interesting, what can I say. Unrelated - some footage from supposed separatists' workshop in Donetsk: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=293_1418287789 cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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Finland temporarily changed the route of their commercial air traffic to avoid Russian aircraft. The article is in Finnish and Google translate doesn't do the best job. http://yle.fi/uutiset/lennonjohto_ohjasi_siviilikoneita_vaistamaan_venalaisia_sotilaskoneita/7687843 quote:Finnish air traffic control had last Wednesday to instruct the civilian machines to dodge the Russian military planes that had been airborne transponders, ie the signal transmitters closed.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Finland temporarily changed the route of their commercial air traffic to avoid Russian aircraft. The article is in Finnish and Google translate doesn't do the best job. There's an official English version. A bit easier to read: http://yle.fi/uutiset/civilian_planes_directed_to_evade_russian_military_aircraft/7687946 quote:On Wednesday, Finnish air traffic control spotted Russian military planes flying with their transponders switched off. Civilian aircraft were directed away from the military planes.
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So apparently Russian media just announced that a retired Estonian secret service employee who has been spending his two years of retirement in Russia was a Russian agent all along. I'm not surprised at any rate, that's what happens if you keep employing former KGB workers, even if they're only there for their technical knowledge or whatever, that's still incredibly shortsighted. This was probably announced deliberately, I don't think much will change from this though. e: Oh yeah feel free to watch the video, which is in Russian. http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1274220/video/ Apparently he exposed Estonian spies in Russia and prevented wiretapping of Russian embassy. Okay then. jonnypeh fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Finland temporarily changed the route of their commercial air traffic to avoid Russian aircraft. The article is in Finnish and Google translate doesn't do the best job. This new cold war is a waste of time, get the 21st century underway already and Let's Roll.
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jonnypeh posted:So apparently Russian media just announced that a retired Estonian secret service employee who has been spending his two years of retirement in Russia was a Russian agent all along. What I don't get about the Russian state and its supporters is that there is this simultaneous feeling of intense, unfair victimization going on, where anything anti-Russian is desperately uncalled for and unfair. And that perspective makes at least some sense. But it exists simultaneously with this propaganda that is basically "haha, you can't stop us, we're loving with you and you can't do anything about it." They don't work well together. Page 1 "Why this is all a NATO plot and unfair" page 2 "We did another thing to our enemies and they are powerless to resist!!"
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Best Friends posted:What I don't get about the Russian state and its supporters is that there is this simultaneous feeling of intense, unfair victimization going on, where anything anti-Russian is desperately uncalled for and unfair. And that perspective makes at least some sense. But it exists simultaneously with this propaganda that is basically "haha, you can't stop us, we're loving with you and you can't do anything about it." "Through constant shifting of rhetorical focus..."
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Best Friends posted:What I don't get about the Russian state and its supporters is that there is this simultaneous feeling of intense, unfair victimization going on, where anything anti-Russian is desperately uncalled for and unfair. And that perspective makes at least some sense. But it exists simultaneously with this propaganda that is basically "haha, you can't stop us, we're loving with you and you can't do anything about it." Different strokes for different folks. Some people you get by claiming you're being kicked when you're down, others by saying you're operating independently, effectively and by your own rules.
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Came across two flights of potential interest  Also a purported ATC log of SK1755 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc6UoTFOqbI Poroshenko has been to India  To meet with Putin?
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Best Friends posted:What I don't get about the Russian state and its supporters is that there is this simultaneous feeling of intense, unfair victimization going on, where anything anti-Russian is desperately uncalled for and unfair. And that perspective makes at least some sense. But it exists simultaneously with this propaganda that is basically "haha, you can't stop us, we're loving with you and you can't do anything about it." In early 90's Croatia was pleading the international community to intervene and stop the war because horrible stuff will happen, and at the same time they were assuring their citizens that everything will be all right because Croatia is perfectly capable of defending itself. Yes it didn't work together well but people were aware that it was a necessity.
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Tevery Best posted:Different strokes for different folks. Some people you get by claiming you're being kicked when you're down, others by saying you're operating independently, effectively and by your own rules. nah it's rampant nationalism and the realization that your society kinda blows. Russia is strong and awesome - see! - so the lack of an awesome standard of living must be the doing of someone else. It's standard modus operandi of nationalists everywhere although usually it's an internal group that takes the hit.
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Anosmoman posted:nah it's rampant nationalism and the realization that your society kinda blows. Russia is strong and awesome - see! - so the lack of an awesome standard of living must be the doing of someone else. It's standard modus operandi of nationalists everywhere although usually it's an internal group that takes the hit. The danger is that Russians, especially Russian policy-makers unable or unwilling to admit failure, genuinely believe the collapse of the global energy market is an Amero-Zionist Negro Illuminati / Polish MJ12 neo-nazi plot to destroy glorious Slav unity. They're a bit crazy (because they see the truth for what it is), and they have lots of nukes. Why isn't America taking them seriously?  Or so the Russian mindset goes.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Enjoy some Polish music recorded in New York City in 1927. "Piesn Dziada" performed by Grajek Wiejski https://archive.org/details/04PiesnDziada Awesome song! Up until recently every wedding in my area had songs with similar melody played, of course text more about sexual innuendo, not how lovely someone's family is. Grajek Wiejski means Folk Musician, I imagine it's like that dreaded driver "Prawo Jazdy" that was terrorizing Ireland a couple of years ago.
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Heh, I didn't realize. That's pretty cool. The title means something like "Grandfather's Song" right?
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SaltyJesus posted:Heh, I didn't realize. That's pretty cool. The title means something like "Grandfather's Song" right? Dziad could mean elder, grandfather, older person or beggar, based on song's lyrics it's "beggar's song".
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Best Friends posted:What I don't get about the Russian state and its supporters is that there is this simultaneous feeling of intense, unfair victimization going on, where anything anti-Russian is desperately uncalled for and unfair. And that perspective makes at least some sense. But it exists simultaneously with this propaganda that is basically "haha, you can't stop us, we're loving with you and you can't do anything about it." It works fairly well for FOX.
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Warcabbit posted:Welp, the west is basically out of the Ruble at this point. As I see it, there's no actual trading going on in the currency outside Russia.
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kalstrams posted:You can always check here. That's some very soothing background music for economic death. I'm assuming left and right are the oil price and/or the dollar-to-ruble ratio, but what is the figure in the middle referring to? I wonder if the Russian economy is going to start contracting in Q4 2014 or if it will take until next year for recession to set in. Mind you, Europe's not doing stellar either. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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Phlegmish posted:but what is the figure in the middle referring to?
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Phlegmish posted:That's some very soothing background music for economic death. I'm assuming left and right are the oil price and/or the dollar-to-ruble ratio, but what is the figure in the middle referring to? 
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