Skyrim Modding: Just Spent 10 Hours Modding, Time to Play

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Canemacar: Mar 8, 2008

Agents are GO! posted:

From a page ago:

Basically, install that and brawls become anything goes, which is great when you don't know what exactly is breaking brawls. I don't plan to play without it again.

(Install it on top of the original Brawl Bugs Patch.)

Thanks, but I already tried that. No luck. Turns out my problem with brawls is likely part of a bigger problem.

I've been having CTDs, and they've gotten more and more frequent. It started with CTDs and infinite loading screens during cell transitions. I've been hanging out mostly at Whiterun, so I figured they were caused by either the Dawn of Whiterun mod adding too much clutter and NPCs, or the higher res texture packs eating up memory. I started saving before entering or exiting anything in the city and just dealt with it. Problem is, they've gotten more and more frequent. Now it's a 50/50 whenever I transition if it will load or crash, and I'm starting to get them just walking through the streets or down a dungeon corridor.

Edit: Looking at my saves, Mod Organizer says they're missing plugins, even the first vanilla save I made right before character creation in Helgen. I meant for it be a clean slate I could pick up once I finished testing the mods, but I guess I mixed something up.

Any ways to increase the stability of the game? I watched Gopher's video about Skyrim's issue in reserving additional blocks of memory for itself, but since the fix for that was supposedly included in USKP, I didn't pursue it. Should I have? Or somehow set the initial memory block to be larger?

I've heard that ENB can actually increase performance if pre-sets aren't used. Is this true?

Several tweaks I've heard about included editing Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini, but I don't see them. I have a Skyrim_default, and a Skyrim_(blank) for each graphical setting. Is this because I'm using the Steam version, or launching with SKSE from within Mod Organizer? I tried to enable crashlogs in each of the .ini I could see, but it doesn't work.

Finally, my specs:

Processor: Intel i5-4590 @ 3.30 GHz
Ram: 8192MB
Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti w/ 4022MB

Load Order:
INFO (03:46:15.0682): using mod "*Unmanaged: backpackfrankdema"
INFO (03:46:15.0682): using mod "Unofficial Skyrim Patch"
INFO (03:46:15.0682): using mod "*Unmanaged: Dawnguard"
INFO (03:46:15.0682): using mod "Unofficial Dawnguard Patch"
INFO (03:46:15.0682): using mod "*Unmanaged: HearthFires"
INFO (03:46:15.0682): using mod "Unofficial Hearthfire Patch"
INFO (03:46:15.0682): using mod "*Unmanaged: Dragonborn"
INFO (03:46:15.0682): using mod "Unofficial Dragonborn Patch"
INFO (03:46:15.0682): using mod "*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01"
INFO (03:46:15.0682): using mod "*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02"
INFO (03:46:15.0682): using mod "*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03"
INFO (03:46:15.0682): using mod "Unofficial High Resolution Patch"
INFO (03:46:15.0682): using mod "*Unmanaged: Rayg_ShutUpMirmulnir"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "SKSE"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Brawl Bugs Patch - Plugins - Modder Resource"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Acquisitive Soul Gems"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Passive Weapon Enchantment Recharging"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Static Mesh Improvement Mod"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "SkyUI"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Skyrim -Community- Uncapper"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "SPERG - Skyrim Perk Enhancements and Rebalanced Gameplay"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Falskaar"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Wyrmstooth"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Unofficial SPERG Patches"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Ponytail Hairstyles v3_0"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Better Dialogue Controls"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Better MessageBox Controls"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Uncle Sheogorath"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Realistic Needs and Diseases"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "RND Wyrmstooth Patch"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Dragon Soul Relinquishment"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Trade and Barter"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Run For Your Lives"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Enhanced Lights and FX"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "SkyFalls + SkyMills"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Pure Weather"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Pure Waters"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Falskaar - Pure Waters Patch"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "RaceMenu"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Immersive Armors"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Unique Uniques"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "The Lost Wonders of Mzark"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Animated Dragon Wings"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "More Draconic Dragon Aspect"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Serana Dialogue Edit"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Vampire Lord drain with Serana fixed"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "A New Look For Serana"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Vanilla Mannequin Script Fix"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Skyrims Unique Treasures"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Book Covers Skyrim"
INFO (03:46:15.0681): using mod "Book Covers Skyrim - Compatibility Patch Collection"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Collectible Mysterium Xarxes"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Map Tomes and Writing Table"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Halls of Dovahndor"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Pipe Smoking"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Player Headtracking"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Face to face conversation"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Follower Commentary Overhaul - FCO"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Bijin Warmaidens"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Bijin Warmaidens USKP Patch"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Thundering shouts"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "The REAL Fus Ro Dah"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "The Real Warmaidens"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Smile in HD"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Sounds of Skyrim - The Dungeons"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Immersive Sounds - Compendium"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Enhanced Blood Textures"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Even Better Quest Objectives"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Amazing Follower Tweaks"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Dragon Stalking Fix"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Flora Respawn Fix"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "The Choice is Yours - Fewer Forced Quests - Improved Dialogue Options"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Breezehome FullyUpgradable"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Destroy the Thieves Guild - Final version"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Marriable Serana"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Timing is Everything - Quest Delay and Timing Control"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Werewolf Mastery"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "When Vampires Attack"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Jaggarsfeld"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "The Paarthurnax Dilemma"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Really Radiant Raiment - Hidden Vanilla Clothes Unlock"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Riverwood Trader Overhaul"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "The Egg Of Time - Dwemer artifacts from Morrowind"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Beards"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "High Res Face Maps for Men by Geonox"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Brows"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Dovahkiin Relaxes Too"
INFO (03:46:15.0680): using mod "Take Notes - Journal of the Dragonborn"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Helgen Reborn"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Unique Border Gates"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "KJ Tattoos - Overlay Plugins for RaceMenu"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Dawnguard - Jiubs Opus Quest Markers"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "The Shadow of Meresis"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Moon and Star"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Morning Fogs"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "No Spinning Death Animation"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Riften Canal Exit"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "JK's Dragonbridge"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Immersive Laundry"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Viewable Faction Ranks"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "SKY CITY - Markarth Rising"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Immersive College of Winterhold"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Expanded Winterhold Destruction Ruins"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Animated Clutter"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "No Snow Under The Roof"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Equipping Overhaul"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Splash of Rain"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Touring Carriages"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Immersive HUD - iHUD"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Skyrim Immersive Creatures"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Heart of the Beast - Werewolf Sound and Texture Overhaul"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Predator Vision - Vampire Werewolf and Khajiit"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "FrankDema Travel BackPack"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Lock Overhaul"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Footprints"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Achieve That"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Hold Border Banners"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Designs of the Nords"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Realistic Ragdolls and Force"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "No More Ugly Bronze Shine"
INFO (03:46:15.0679): using mod "Female Bard Cover by Malukah ingame"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "AOF Believable Hair -Female and Male-"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Enchantment Reload Fix"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Natural Eyes"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Invisibility Glitch - Eyes Fix"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Understandable Draugrs"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "JK's Riverwood"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "bookshelves script SKSE"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Lie to Degaine about Dibella Statue"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "ApachiiSkyHair"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "New Animation for Magic Casting - New Animation for magic cast v0-8"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Beast Skeletons 5"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Cloaks of Skyrim"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Winter Is Coming - Cloaks"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "More Salt Please"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "*Unmanaged: Automatic Variants"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Fores New Idles in Skyrim - Creatures"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Left Hand Rings Modified"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Helmet Toggle - Show Hide"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Dawn of Whiterun"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Dawn of Windhelm"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "JK's Riften"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "JK's Solitude"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Dawn of Markarth"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Lore Weapon Expansion"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Lore Weapon Expansion - Blade of Woe"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Insanitys Shields"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Insanitys Dwemer Weapons"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Coverwomen"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Immersive Animations"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "XP32 Maximum Skeleton -XPMS"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Dual Sheath Redux"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn DLC"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "aMidianBorn Textures For Immersive Armors and Lore-Friendly Armor Pack"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Skyforge Hotfix"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "Bonemold Hotfix"
INFO (03:46:15.0678): using mod "aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Unique Items"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "Dragon Priests - Enhanced"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "Konahrik's Accoutrements - Dragon Priest Armory"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "Skyforge Weapons"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "LeanWolf's Better Shaped Weapons - All in One Installer"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "Dragonbone Ebonsteel Armor"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "Insanitys Ebony Sword Replacer"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "Ebony Blade Replacer"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "Sword of Tongues"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "Elemental Staffs"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "Bashed"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "Merged"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "Dual Sheath Redux-Patch"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "FNIS-Patch"
INFO (03:46:15.0677): using mod "FileAccess Interface for Skyrim Script - FISS"

Canemacar fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Dec 14, 2014

# ? Dec 14, 2014 11:19

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 04:25

Klowns: May 13, 2009; Laugh At Me Will They?

Agents are GO! posted:

edit: Bob Ross is coming along well!

I re-did his face by using the ingame character edit and then exporting it. I think this is as good as *I* can do. If somebody reading this can do a better one, gimme a holler.

Is..is that a paint stain on his apron? :dance:

# ? Dec 14, 2014 11:37

Naturally Selected: Nov 28, 2007; by Cyrano4747

Canemacar posted:

Are you running the SKSE memory fix, stableugridstoload, etc? It sounds like skyrim's getting overloaded with scripts/data and crashes (common problem, but pretty much eliminated by the community). See: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50244/

The required mods section with the stableugridstoload mod added should fix the ILS and CTDs handily, unless there's a ton of really broken mods. I'm running a boatload of old, new, abandoned, buggy-ish mods, everything with 2K tex, an ENB, without doing the bashing/merging/cleaning stuff and crash maybe once every 4-5 hours.

Also, skyrim/skyrimprefs are in the skyrim folder under my games, not in the game folder.

E:Also I just had my mind blown: ENB was pushing me down to 30-ish fps constantly, until i started just hitting F4 (default "clear vram" key in enb) when i start playing. now i'm pushing 50 and 70+ indoors :stare:

Naturally Selected fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Dec 14, 2014

# ? Dec 14, 2014 11:41

Zeron: Oct 23, 2010

You have to edit the .ini files through mod manager, it has it's own set tied to your mod profile. Also did you run your load order through LOOT, cause it looks a bit messy to me.

# ? Dec 14, 2014 14:58

Agents are GO!: Dec 29, 2004

Klowns posted:

Is..is that a paint stain on his apron?

Yes it is!

# ? Dec 14, 2014 17:52

Canemacar: Mar 8, 2008

Zeron posted:

You have to edit the .ini files through mod manager, it has it's own set tied to your mod profile. Also did you run your load order through LOOT, cause it looks a bit messy to me.

Ok. That makes sense based on how MO keeps everything separate from your actual game folder.

I did run the load order through LOOT and that was what it recommended. About a fifth of them weren't recognized though. I'll have to manually assign them a place after doing some more research on them. Also, MO apparently disagreed with LOOT and wanted to reorder about seven of the mods, the Serana mods, and the ones relating to Paarthunax and Better Objectives.

I'm going to be using the stability guide this time around and get rid of some of the more script-heavy mods. Hope that fixes the issues.

# ? Dec 14, 2014 20:36

Gyshall: Feb 24, 2009; Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.

Agents are GO! posted:

From a page ago:

Basically, install that and brawls become anything goes, which is great when you don't know what exactly is breaking brawls. I don't plan to play without it again.

(Install it on top of the original Brawl Bugs Patch.)

edit: Bob Ross is coming along well!

I re-did his face by using the ingame character edit and then exporting it. I think this is as good as *I* can do. If somebody reading this can do a better one, gimme a holler.

He even has a unique, lore-friendly summon!

I am now busily downloading bob ross MP3s so I can splice together some dialogue.

I have access to every episode of The Joy of Painting if you need any other content.

# ? Dec 14, 2014 21:02

Chalupa Picada: Jan 13, 2009

Agents are GO! posted:

From a page ago:

Basically, install that and brawls become anything goes, which is great when you don't know what exactly is breaking brawls. I don't plan to play without it again.

(Install it on top of the original Brawl Bugs Patch.)

edit: Bob Ross is coming along well!

I re-did his face by using the ingame character edit and then exporting it. I think this is as good as *I* can do. If somebody reading this can do a better one, gimme a holler.

He even has a unique, lore-friendly summon!

I am now busily downloading bob ross MP3s so I can splice together some dialogue.

He needs to be able to summon Dryads; happy little trees!

# ? Dec 14, 2014 22:47

MeccaPrime: May 11, 2010

Yasser Arafatwa posted:

He needs to be able to summon Dryads; happy little trees!

Or, at the very least, Spriggans (easier since they're already in-game).

# ? Dec 14, 2014 23:15

Zeron: Oct 23, 2010

Canemacar posted:

Ok. That makes sense based on how MO keeps everything separate from your actual game folder.

I did run the load order through LOOT and that was what it recommended. About a fifth of them weren't recognized though. I'll have to manually assign them a place after doing some more research on them. Also, MO apparently disagreed with LOOT and wanted to reorder about seven of the mods, the Serana mods, and the ones relating to Paarthunax and Better Objectives.

I'm going to be using the stability guide this time around and get rid of some of the more script-heavy mods. Hope that fixes the issues.

The MO thing is actually an an experimental feature to order your install order, which is seperate from your load order. And yeah the key to a stable mod order is moderation. Although LOOT shouldn't actually be unable to recognize something since afaik it's based on mod content and the master list is just for exceptions.

# ? Dec 15, 2014 02:10

Everything Burrito: Jun 2, 2011; I Failed At Anime 2022

I'm having the same issue with weird polygon artifacts on the menu periodically followed very shortly by CTD as this guy: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1251248-strange-flashing-polygons-on-inventory-and-ctd/

I've already pretty much done all the stability fixes I can do but I was wondering if those papyrus settings posted in that thread (post #10) were safe and also if they would actually help in any way. My game is probably about as stable as I can make it without culling mods -- sometimes it'll go for hours without a crash and sometimes it does that weird artifact thing and crashes every few minutes, kinda depends on where I am and how much stuff is active. Just wondering if that was another fix I could throw on the pile or if I should just appreciate it when this jacked up house of cards doesn't collapse every 10 minutes and save a lot to mitigate when it does. I've ironed out a lot of the other stability issues I was having and this is pretty much the last major issue that seems to be generating CTDs. I didn't start seeing it until I started using ENBoost, so if that's creating the conflict I can deal with it vs turning it off and going back to how awful things were beforehand lol.

At least the polygons work as a warning and let me get a save in before everything goes to poo poo :v:

Everything Burrito fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Dec 15, 2014

# ? Dec 15, 2014 05:14

LtSmash: Dec 18, 2005; Will we next create false gods to rule over us? How proud we have become, and how blind.

-Sister Miriam Godwinson,
"We Must Dissent"

Everything Burrito posted:

I'm having the same issue with weird polygon artifacts on the menu periodically followed very shortly by CTD as this guy: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1251248-strange-flashing-polygons-on-inventory-and-ctd/

I've already pretty much done all the stability fixes I can do but I was wondering if those papyrus settings posted in that thread were safe and also if they would actually help in any way. My game is probably about as stable as I can make it without culling mods -- sometimes it'll go for hours without a crash and sometimes it does that weird artifact thing and crashes every few minutes, kinda depends on where I am and how much stuff is active. Just wondering if that was another fix I could throw on the pile or if I should just appreciate it when this jacked up house of cards doesn't collapse every 10 minutes and save a lot to mitigate when it does.

At least the polygons work as a warning and let me get a save in before everything goes to poo poo

The linked papyrus settings are dumb. iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=8388608 tells skyrim to use 8mb instead of the default 75kb for stack allocation. This fucks up the script engine since 8mb per running script is a gently caress of a lot and can make scripts die and possibly crash the game. The rest are probably harmless but won't help you. They might help trade fps to make scripts more responsive. Maybe.

Artifacting is almost always caused by either bad drivers or overheating or failing hardware. My bet is your gpu's fan is full of dust and/or cat hair. Go get a can of compressed air and give the gpu and the inside of your case a good cleaning.

# ? Dec 15, 2014 05:33

Everything Burrito: Jun 2, 2011; I Failed At Anime 2022

Thanks, I didn't want to just toss in a bunch of random settings if they were useless and/or actively harmful. I have a temperature monitor installed and apparently my GPU doesn't get much above 50C but it isn't super powerful so it's probably just doing the best it can. I opened the case and cleaned everything out fairly recently but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to hit it again since that poo poo builds up quick with pets in the house.

# ? Dec 15, 2014 05:54

Dr Snofeld: Apr 30, 2009

I'm actually considering digging out my Oblivion disc, because I was reminded today that Nehrim exists and I realised I'd never really given it a fair shake when it came out. I know this isn't an Oblivion thread but can anyone weigh in on that mod?

# ? Dec 15, 2014 23:29

FutonForensic: Nov 11, 2012

Dr Snofeld posted:

I'm actually considering digging out my Oblivion disc, because I was reminded today that Nehrim exists and I realised I'd never really given it a fair shake when it came out. I know this isn't an Oblivion thread but can anyone weigh in on that mod?

The overworld is really dense and has tons of different biomes. The dungeon interiors are fantastic and really push the limits as to what I expect out of that engine. Being a huge total conversion mod, it's a bit janky in all places but surprisingly not too bad all things considered. The story is a enormous mess with a pansy elf boy taking center stage, but if you like Kirkbride-esque confusing poo poo you might get a kick out of it. It's been years since I played it, so I may just be exaggerating how incoherent the story is.

Really the environmental detail is the best part about Nehrim. Don't go into it expecting it to fix the combat system or the potato faces.

Edit: Oh, and all the dialogue is subbed from German. I don't know if that matters.

FutonForensic fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Dec 15, 2014

# ? Dec 15, 2014 23:39

Man Whore: Jan 6, 2012; ASK ME ABOUT SPHERICAL CATS
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Last time I tried it crashed every time I tried to exit the first dungeon which stretches on for a biiiiit too long.

# ? Dec 15, 2014 23:42

Synthwave Crusader: Feb 13, 2011

Dr Snofeld posted:

I'm actually considering digging out my Oblivion disc, because I was reminded today that Nehrim exists and I realised I'd never really given it a fair shake when it came out. I know this isn't an Oblivion thread but can anyone weigh in on that mod?

Don't. Apparently the team behind Nehrim is close to releasing Enderal in the Skyrim engine.

# ? Dec 15, 2014 23:50

FutonForensic: Nov 11, 2012

Scyantific posted:

Don't. Apparently the team behind Nehrim is close to releasing Enderal in the Skyrim engine.

Are they? I mean, they're going to be separate landmasses and there's no exact date for Enderal's release, so I don't see why he shouldn't give it a shot just to see if he likes it.

# ? Dec 15, 2014 23:53

Simple Simon: Dec 29, 2008; "Good sir, would you fancy a Salmon tartar?"

So, I just remember that I had Skyrim on steam and after a friend showed a image of his modded skyrim. I decided that I should finally play Skyrim.
I do not have any of the DLC don't know if I should get them or not.

Was wondering if I should use BOSS or are people now using LOOT?

Looking thru the guide and getting some of the basic mods, which was the recommended ones for first timers.
-Unofficial Patches
-SkyUI
-Weapons and Armor Fixes
-Clothing & Clutter Fixes
-Even Better Quest Objectives
-Better Dialogue Controls
-Better Message Controls
-No Poison Dialogues
-Brawl Bugs Patch
-Timing Is Everything
-The Choice is Yours (so your quest log doesn't clutter up)
-Smart Souls/Aquisitive Soul Gems
-Thieves Guild Requirements (So you don't get roped into the Thieves Guild automatically)
-Bounty Gold (optional)
-Faster Mining
-Guard Dialogue Overhaul (no new dialogue, just makes them use existing stuff correctly)
-Static Mesh Improvement Mod (makes things look worlds better)

Any more mods that would be fun to have first time thru this game?

Simple Simon fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Dec 16, 2014

# ? Dec 16, 2014 00:16

Cardboard Box: Jul 14, 2009

definitely use LOOT over BOSS. it's much better.

if you're just looking for basic mods that aren't likely to conflict with much, I'm a fan of iHUD (which hides elements of the HUD when they're not in use and is customizable), A Matter of Time (adds a clock on the HUD, fully customizable), and Immersive Patrols (puts random NPCs wandering around the overworld to make it feel more alive). Cutting Room Floor is also a cool mod that restores some cut NPCs, dialogue and small quests back into the game but isn't vital by any means.

Cardboard Box fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Dec 16, 2014

# ? Dec 16, 2014 00:33

Phetz: Nov 7, 2008; Daddy like...; Fun Shoe

Ruins Clutter Improved is a good companion for Static Mesh Improvement Mod that adds detail to some of the objects it doesn't touch.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 00:38

Synthwave Crusader: Feb 13, 2011

Simple Simon posted:

So, I just remember that I had Skyrim on steam and after a friend showed a image of his modded skyrim. I decided that I should finally play Skyrim.
I do not have any of the DLC don't know if I should get them or not.

Was wondering if I should use BOSS or are people now using LOOT?

Looking thru the guide and getting some of the basic mods, which was the recommended ones for first timers.
-Unofficial Patches
-SkyUI
-Weapons and Armor Fixes
-Clothing & Clutter Fixes
-Even Better Quest Objectives
-Better Dialogue Controls
-Better Message Controls
-No Poison Dialogues
-Brawl Bugs Patch
-Timing Is Everything
-The Choice is Yours (so your quest log doesn't clutter up)
-Smart Souls/Aquisitive Soul Gems
-Thieves Guild Requirements (So you don't get roped into the Thieves Guild automatically)
-Bounty Gold (optional)
-Faster Mining
-Guard Dialogue Overhaul (no new dialogue, just makes them use existing stuff correctly)
-Static Mesh Improvement Mod (makes things look worlds better)

Any more mods that would be fun to have first time thru this game?

Some of the more expansive gameplay mods (Thunderchild, etc.) Require Dawnguard and Dragonborn, so if you want those, you'll have to get the DLC (Steam Sale's coming up anyway so you're in luck).

# ? Dec 16, 2014 01:26

Gyshall: Feb 24, 2009; Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.

Nehrim is great and worth the playthrough, just get a graphics modding guide for Nehrim (most apply to Oblivion too) and Deadly Reflex 5 and you're good to go.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 01:40

Davoren: Aug 14, 2003; The devil you say!

On the question of DLC, I was pretty pleased with all of it. Even the ones with bad writing add enough new places and items to make up for it, also I fully expected Hearthfire to be poo poo but its actually kind of cool.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 01:52

Gyshall: Feb 24, 2009; Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.

Modded Skyrim Legendary Edition is pretty much one of the best open world games ever imo.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 02:30

FutonForensic: Nov 11, 2012

Gyshall posted:

Modded Skyrim Legendary Edition is pretty much one of the best open world games ever imo.

It helps that really no one else attempts to make games this big with the same level of interactivity. I'm sure Witcher 3 will be good and huge, but will it let me stack the books I stole on a bookshelf? In alphabetical order?! No! :mad:

# ? Dec 16, 2014 02:59

Man Whore: Jan 6, 2012; ASK ME ABOUT SPHERICAL CATS
=3

I think the success of bethesda as a company can be pretty much chalked up to appealing to everyone's inner hoarder and/or kleptomaniac.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 03:37

Cardboard Box: Jul 14, 2009

it's certainly not for their spit and polish

# ? Dec 16, 2014 03:39

Oceanbound: Jan 19, 2008; Time to let the dead be dead.

What mod do you use to make tighter bookshelves? Bookshelves Updated SKSE Script?

# ? Dec 16, 2014 04:14

SystemLogoff: Feb 19, 2011; End Session?

Oceanbound posted:

What mod do you use to make tighter bookshelves? Bookshelves Updated SKSE Script?

Yeah, I like that one over the Better Bookshelves mod. It's more stable.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 04:15

Forsythia: Jan 28, 2007; You want bad advice?

Anything is okay if you don't get caught!

... I hope this helps!

What do I need to do to cleanly switch from Nexus Mod Manager to Skyrim Mod Organizer? Do I have to clean out my Skyrim folders and reinstall everything in MO?

# ? Dec 16, 2014 05:18

Klowns: May 13, 2009; Laugh At Me Will They?

Scyantific posted:

Some of the more expansive gameplay mods (Thunderchild, etc.) Require Dawnguard and Dragonborn, so if you want those, you'll have to get the DLC (Steam Sale's coming up anyway so you're in luck).

I'm looking forward to the Steam sale to either get the DLC cheap or the Legendary edition. I suppose I should beat the game at least once before starting over with more DLC/mods.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 05:36

BurntCornMuffin: Jan 9, 2009

Mizuti posted:

What do I need to do to cleanly switch from Nexus Mod Manager to Skyrim Mod Organizer? Do I have to clean out my Skyrim folders and reinstall everything in MO?

It's not really have to so much as it is highly recommended/will save you much pain and anguish in the long run. Plus, leaving mods in your Skyrim install does kinda defeat the purpose of installing MO in the first place, which as a proper OCD/autist goon, you should find this upsetting.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 05:40

Naturally Selected: Nov 28, 2007; by Cyrano4747

Klowns posted:

I'm looking forward to the Steam sale to either get the DLC cheap or the Legendary edition. I suppose I should beat the game at least once before starting over with more DLC/mods.

Nah. Long as you don't get the big everything-destroying stuff like SkyRe, the campaign will feel at worst the same, and at best 100x better.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 07:04

Praetorian Mage: Feb 16, 2008

FutonForensic posted:

It helps that really no one else attempts to make games this big with the same level of interactivity. I'm sure Witcher 3 will be good and huge, but will it let me stack the books I stole on a bookshelf? In alphabetical order?! No!

I think it's actually kind of surprising that no one else has tried to make a similar game. You'd think the success of Elder Scrolls would lead to others trying to copy the formula. TES is basically a genre unto itself, and it's unfortunate that Bethesda basically has a monopoly on that genre.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 09:15

FutonForensic: Nov 11, 2012

Praetorian Mage posted:

I think it's actually kind of surprising that no one else has tried to make a similar game. You'd think the success of Elder Scrolls would lead to others trying to copy the formula. TES is basically a genre unto itself, and it's unfortunate that Bethesda basically has a monopoly on that genre.

There have certainly been attempts, Two Worlds, Kingdoms of Amalur and the more recent Dragon Age: Inquisition all feel like they are taking heavy cues from TES. A huge limiting factor on more competition from appearing is budget--these games are basically single-player MMOs and require resources so immense and a division of labor so large, it can be easy (while still frustrating) to see how these games release as giant messes of code tenuously held together with wishful thinking.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 09:36

Synthwave Crusader: Feb 13, 2011

Klowns posted:

I'm looking forward to the Steam sale to either get the DLC cheap or the Legendary edition. I suppose I should beat the game at least once before starting over with more DLC/mods.

Not necessarily beat, but at least play enough without DLC/mods to get a feel for what you'd like to change about the game. Then start tossing in mods in small batches to ensure stability.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 11:53

counterfeitsaint: Feb 26, 2010; I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

Praetorian Mage posted:

I think it's actually kind of surprising that no one else has tried to make a similar game. You'd think the success of Elder Scrolls would lead to others trying to copy the formula. TES is basically a genre unto itself, and it's unfortunate that Bethesda basically has a monopoly on that genre.

Fallout?

I'm really worried about the Elder Scrolls "genre" now that the IP has been giving the MMO death sentence.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 12:34

Naturally Selected: Nov 28, 2007; by Cyrano4747

counterfeitsaint posted:

Fallout?

I'm really worried about the Elder Scrolls "genre" now that the IP has been giving the MMO death sentence.

Also BethSoft, using literally the same engine. And with ESO, I'm with you in the worry boat-hopefully they wake up at some point and go back to making moddable open-world games.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 12:43

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 04:25

Synthwave Crusader: Feb 13, 2011

Except that wasn't Bethesda who developed it. It was done by Zenimax Online Studios, a completely different studio under the Bethesda/Zenimax banner. You can bet your rear end they're working on the next Fallout/Elder Scrolls with their main team.

# ? Dec 16, 2014 13:01

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