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Opopanax posted:Probably based on Agent Carter buzz They have a god drat superheroine in Black Cat who could probably hold her own movie. I just can't imagine needing a woman lead and jumping to Aunt May.
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greatn posted:They have a god drat superheroine in Black Cat who could probably hold her own movie. I just can't imagine needing a woman lead and jumping to Aunt May. Plus, Agent Carter is a character who is established as an agent. They basically were like "we need an Agent Carter. Who is the only female character with name recognition that we have? Let's just make Spider-Man's kindly old aunt a femme fatale." Nobody goes to see Aunt May be a spy. Because she's not. It's such a desperate, hacky "me too."
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Dec 14, 2014 06:55
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I would watch an Aunt May movie if she was basically Mary Worth and Peter Parker was newspaper Spider-man. I would watch it so hard.
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Dec 14, 2014 07:03
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I'd watch an Aunt May movie if they just used an old Murder She Wrote two-parter script and only changed the names
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Dec 14, 2014 08:08
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Just make Aunt May a herald for Galactus
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One thing that is alarming from those emails is Sony having the temerity to ask for approval power (in addition to seeing the script) over Captain America 3, and wanting to be able to use Marvel characters according to their own discretion. I think the last ten years have shown that no one in Sony should have influence over anything creatively. Their just a pus filled boil waiting to be lanced, at this point.
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Dec 14, 2014 09:41
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Those aren't really all that ridiculous as opening questions, which they were, and you've pretty severely distorted some of them.
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Dec 14, 2014 09:56
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All these Spider-Man negotiations are really boring to me, though, I'd be more interested in the failed negotiations with Fox.
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Dan Didio posted:All these Spider-Man negotiations are really boring to me, though, I'd be more interested in the failed negotiations with Fox. Doesn't seem to be much that's interesting with that. Marvel wants Silver Surfer and Galactus in exchange for Daredevil, but Fox decided to let Daredevil go. Probably because they know they have plenty of X-Men characters already.
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Dan Didio posted:All these Spider-Man negotiations are really boring to me, though, I'd be more interested in the failed negotiations with Fox. Yeah the Spider-Man ones are basically "we're attempting to do anything at all with the franchise to rebuild interest", maybe make him older, maybe younger. The Fox 70's Daredevil idea, the various X-Men spin off attempts (especially the lead up to First Class failures) or Marvel's attempt to fire everybody at various points would be more interesting. .
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Riven posted:Plus, Agent Carter is a character who is established as an agent. They basically were like "we need an Agent Carter. Who is the only female character with name recognition that we have? Let's just make Spider-Man's kindly old aunt a femme fatale." It's especially jarring since Spider-Man's real parents were actually spies in the comics. Actually, that reminds me, they could adapt Waid's Spider-Man:Family Business OGN. It has an adult Peter as the protagonist, plus Teresa Parker could be their new Agent Carter. Spies and Superheroics sounds like a winning combination if you ask me. But I guess you'd need to do a lot of rejigging with the villains. Maybe take a cue from Spectacular Spider-Man and have Tombstone in place of the Kingpin, since he's probably tied up with Daredevil's rights. Might be pretty good.
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greatn posted:They have a god drat superheroine in Black Cat who could probably hold her own movie. I just can't imagine needing a woman lead and jumping to Aunt May. I'm pretty sure they also have Silver Sable, just in case Movie Exec Superstition makes them think "Catwoman Mark II would obviously be a failure."
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reignonyourparade posted:just in case Movie Exec Superstition makes them think "Catwoman Mark II would obviously be a failure." Watching studio execs try to figure out what "the kids of today" want is like watching a dog trying to eat a slice of lemon and getting angry and confused that its mouth parts feel weird and hurty. "God loving drat it, the polls said that kids like 'emo culture' and dancing so we gave them an emo dancing Peter Parker and the loving ingrates snubbed us! Those ungrateful fuckers!" 
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More like the symbiote cured him of being emo, hence the dancing. Spider-Man 3 is also still the highest-grossing movie of the 5 Sony made.
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The MSJ posted:More like the symbiote cured him of being emo, hence the dancing. That was a combination of good will from the previous 2 and Venom being in it, in my view.
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Spider man 3 made money because Spider man 2 was good. Amazing Spider Man didn't make money because Spider man 3 was bad. That's kind of how it works with superhero movies.
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How did Iron Man 3 make money then?
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Because of the Avengers.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:How did Iron Man 3 make money then? I really just don't think most people care about that poo poo. I think the general movie going audience probably overall liked IM2. But IM3 was completely riding the Avengers wave. So was Cap 2 to some extent.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:How did Iron Man 3 make money then? Because Iron Man 2 and the Avengers were good.
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Sunday's Spider news http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-in-capt-3.html http://www.screengonzo.com/2014/12/14/scoop-a-meeting-of-the-minds-to-occur-between-marvel-sony-early-next-year/ quote:One plan, according to the source, is that Marvel would include an after-credits stinger that would center on Spider-Man. As we can expect, filming for Captain America: Civil War is gearing up for a February/March start, so the timing would certainly fit to get something like this filmed. Our source tells us they are prepping 3 stages at Pinewood in anticipation of the Cap 3 project. quote:“I really feel, in my heart of hearts, that the new spiderman [sic] in cap 3 could just appear in his own film, be it sinister six or a kick rear end spidey film of his own, after that intro in cap 3 and people would be cool with it,” wrote De Luca.
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Dacap posted:Sunday's Spider news Interesting if true. Also, yay for Arad being given the boot. It's also neat to get some tidbits from other studios, as well. The Russos on Spidey would be absolutely magnificent.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Interesting if true. Also, yay for Arad being given the boot. It's also neat to get some tidbits from other studios, as well. And they worked with Donald Glover on Community quite a bit!
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The article also says that Marvel and Sony have a meeting planned in January. I think this is leading to Spidey showing up in Cap 3 after all.
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If that New Avengers stinger turns out to be true that's a pretty logical place for Spidey to show up
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Ugh. Just when fox was starting to steer x-men back to palatable territory, hey decide their superhero team isn't team-y enough and shove the f4 down our throats. News flash: literally no one likes both the x men and the fantastic four. Keep that poo poo out of the x films. You are a dog. These teams don't even fit.
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I like them both, but I still think it's really damned stupid to try and mash them together just because. There are more than enough mutants to feed the team need.
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I enjoy both, but I also agree that out of any combination of Marvel's four pillar franchises (Avengers, Spider-Man, X-Men, F4) those two are the least compatible with each other.
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Dec 15, 2014 00:02
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Just reverse-Pietro them in as a stretchy mutant, fire mutant, invisible mutant, and rock mutant.
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Dec 15, 2014 00:59
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Doom is gonna leak some naked pictures of Mystique to bring the two teams together.
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Unless they make an super powered Adventures In Babysitting starring X-23 and the Richards kids.
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Dacap posted:I enjoy both, but I also agree that out of any combination of Marvel's four pillar franchises (Avengers, Spider-Man, X-Men, F4) those two are the least compatible with each other. I want to see this happen.  
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Dacap posted:I enjoy both, but I also agree that out of any combination of Marvel's four pillar franchises (Avengers, Spider-Man, X-Men, F4) those two are the least compatible with each other. If not handled carefully it would come off quite tone-deaf and make the FF look really pompous and pampered. Mutants, the hated and hunted minority group du jour meeting (battling) the gorgeous rich celebrated adventurers? Yeesh.
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Dacap posted:Sunday's Spider news I usually try to avoid hollywood rumors, but please, please let this happen.
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prefect posted:I want to see this happen. I think Wolverine comments shortly after that that the X-Men are lucky Spidey doesn't kill because he could've killed every single one of them. One of my favorite Spidey fight scenes and shows that while he isn't always the fastest or strongest or most agile out there, his unique combination of abilities, spider sense, and his unorthodox fighting style makes him an unpredictable foe.
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notthegoatseguy posted:I think Wolverine comments shortly after that that the X-Men are lucky Spidey doesn't kill because he could've killed every single one of them. One of my favorite Spidey fight scenes and shows that while he isn't always the fastest or strongest or most agile out there, his unique combination of abilities, spider sense, and his unorthodox fighting style makes him an unpredictable foe. I vaguely remember a comic where someone (Wolverine?) is trying to prevent Spiderman from escaping something and his internal monologue is basically how screwed he is because Spiderman has gone up against guys like the Hulk and the Juggernaut and nobody has ever managed to squish the bug. If they ever do get Spiderman in one of the Avengers movies it'd be great to have a Spidey-fan pandering scene where he basically clowns the entire team. Away all Goats fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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Away all Goats posted:I vaguely remember a comic where someone (Wolverine?) is trying to prevent Spiderman from escaping something and his internal monologue is basically how screwed he is because Spiderman has gone up against guys like the Hulk and the Juggernaut and nobody has ever managed to squish the bug. It's Marvel Universe vs. Wolverine when Spider-Man is basically Patient Zero of the Rage Virus from 28 Days Later. 
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Opopanax posted:If that New Avengers stinger turns out to be true that's a pretty logical place for Spidey to show up Wait what?
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Dec 15, 2014 08:37
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Rumours are that Avengers 2 ends with a "here's the new team" and introduces a bunch of new characters.
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