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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I wish Jeskai Ascendancy could be my Commander. There's a format called Noble, where you play a 60-card deck of commons and uncommons and choose a rare to be your pseudo-commander. Fluctuator is banned in that format thanks to a deck I built.
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Can timetwister be my commander?
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Dec 15, 2014 05:20
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Dr. Stab posted:Can timetwister be my commander? That card's banned, but Time Spiral is allowed. Here is the explanation of the rules, It's actually a 60-card deck including the noble, and you can only play up to 4 uncommons total. You start with the Noble in your command zone, may activate abilities of your Noble from the command zone as if it were in your hand, and if it goes to the graveyard or gets exiled you cannot return it to the command zone.
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Dec 15, 2014 05:25
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Chamale posted:There's a format called Noble, where you play a 60-card deck of commons and uncommons and choose a rare to be your pseudo-commander. Fluctuator is banned in that format thanks to a deck I built. Do you still have that decklist with a Lab Maniac win condition? I remember you posted it a year-or-so ago and it looked awesome.
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Dec 15, 2014 05:26
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Equilibrium posted:Jeskai Ascendancy is just an ugly mess of triggers. Regardless of power level, I'm not sure how that thing got printed. TheKingofSprings posted:This, that card loving rules and we need 20 more like it. I agree with both of these things.
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Dec 15, 2014 05:30
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So, I can make Inkmoth Nexus my noble, and have 4 berserks as my uncommons?
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Dec 15, 2014 05:31
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One time I cast a Crater's Claws with X=5 and used the Jeskai Ascendancy/Prowess triggers to get ferocious up. And then my opponent tapped out to Mindswipe me for 1 because I was a greedy rear end in a top hat and tapped out to cast it.
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Dec 15, 2014 05:35
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I wish Jeskai Ascendancy could be my Commander. "My commander is the platonic ideal of my objective superiority to you."
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Dec 15, 2014 05:39
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My commander is force of will.
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Dec 15, 2014 05:43
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I wish Jeskai Ascendancy could be my Commander. It can get in line behind Maelstrom Nexus.
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Dec 15, 2014 05:44
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GoutPatrol posted:Do you still have that decklist with a Lab Maniac win condition? I remember you posted it a year-or-so ago and it looked awesome. I dug it up, and decided to give the list a hasty update. This is the cheapest deck I've ever used to win a match in a Legacy tournament. I wonder if I could update it with a bunch of Treasure Cruise and make a real deck. code:Dr. Stab posted:So, I can make Inkmoth Nexus my noble, and have 4 berserks as my uncommons? Yup. Infect is a force to be reckoned with in that format. Also, you can play Infect with Blazing Shoal as your Noble.
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Dec 15, 2014 05:47
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Dr. Stab posted:My commander is force of will. That's only an uncommon.
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Dec 15, 2014 05:49
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Pussy Snorkel posted:That's only an uncommon. The judge promo has a gold star. Speaking of different formats, has anyone heard of Tiny Leaders? It's commander except with a 50 card deck, 10 card sideboard, the max CMC allowed is 3 and it's meant to be played 1 on 1. It sounds kinda cool, at least. I threw together a Xira Arien list while I was bored at work the other night.
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Dec 15, 2014 05:59
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suicidesteve posted:The judge promo has a gold star. That doesn't change its rarity.
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Dec 15, 2014 06:00
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suicidesteve posted:The judge promo has a gold star. Keep in mind, all cards in your deck are max CMC 3. I run Anafenza in it.
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Dec 15, 2014 06:01
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Chamale posted:There's a format called Noble, where you play a 60-card deck of commons and uncommons and choose a rare to be your pseudo-commander. Fluctuator is banned in that format thanks to a deck I built. I heard some dudes talking about a Commander variant where everything in your deck has to cost 3 mana or less, including your commander. There might have been other rules but I was still playing and not really paying attention to them, 
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Dec 15, 2014 06:13
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I predict your answer lies inches above your head. Here's a link to Tiny Leaders with all the rules. No Jeskai, Mardu, or Sultai commanders available yet though, but the rules have (lovely) proxy creatures. Ramos fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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Dec 15, 2014 06:20
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About that Invitational match that took 165 minutes - both Jessup and Davis are regulars at my store. They've been playtesting together for weeks. I can't imagine how long that match would have taken if it were two people who weren't familiar with how their opponent played.
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Dec 15, 2014 07:02
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I was playing a Standard 2 man against a dude on MTGO playing U/B straight control with Pearl Lake as the wincon. Game 3 I Thoughtseize him, remove his only Dissolve and then Stain the Mind naming Pearl Lake, and remove both copies from his deck. I figured he'd get that he just lost, but he just keeps playing for like three turns until I message him "Do you have any other win conditions in your deck?" (I already knew the answer since I had to search the deck for the Ancients). Silence for about 2 or 3 minutes and then he concedes without a word. For the record, it is loving satisfying landing a full value Stain the Mind.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:06
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Angry Grimace posted:I was playing a Standard 2 man against a dude on MTGO playing U/B straight control with Pearl Lake as the wincon. Game 3 I Thoughtseize him, remove his only Dissolve and then Stain the Mind naming Pearl Lake, and remove both copies from his deck. I figured he'd get that he just lost, but he just keeps playing for like three turns until I message him "Do you have any other win conditions in your deck?" (I already knew the answer since I had to search the deck for the Ancients). Silence for about 2 or 3 minutes and then he concedes without a word. I was playing a Legacy match with my Thought Lash/Laboratory Maniac deck, and my opponent hit me with turn 1 Thoughtseize/Surgical Extraction for my Laboratory Maniacs, so my only win condition was Jace, the Mind Sculptor. Over the course of the game I cast 4 Counterspell, 4 Force of Will, and 4 Jace, got off an ultimate, and eventually my opponent conceded with 1 card in his library to my 2.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:20
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AgentSythe posted:Mods please change my name to this image: He goes (went?) to our store here, Game Theory. He's good, but a touch insufferable.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:56
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So I went to a PPTQ on Thursday, probably my most competitive event (I went to a GP and played around but not very seriously), went 5-2 in a 7 round standard event and went 13th, playing Jeskai Tokens. I could have top 8ed but I was very nervous for the first few rounds and made some bad sideboarding decisions. Round 1- Mardu Midrange. 0-2. Not the best start, Game 1 I kept a hand with two stoke the flames and hordeling outburst with one red mana out and he hordeling outbursted, butcher of the horde t4 and generally removed all my threats. Game 2 I boarded in glare of heresy (saw butcher) and erase (saw chained) but didn't board in strokes because I am an idiot. I was pretty optimistic with a t2 seeker and t3 rabblemaster, but he then untapped after that and anger of the gods my board. He then played one stormbreath one after the other (stroke where are you D: ) and killed me pretty fast. Round 2- Mardu Midrange (again!) 2-1 Don't remember this one too well. Let's say I boarded in strokes after losing game 1 and won 2 and 3. I do remember clearly game 3 hordeling outburst one turn with double ascendancy out and then double stoke the flamesing him and attacking him for 15, doing 23 damage in one turn when we was on 22. Felt good. Round 3- Naya Midrange 1-2 Again, hosed over by my sideboard decisions. I easily beat him game 1, seeing only fleecemane lions, caryatids and such, so I think he's more a aggro deck. I board in glare and keranos and then game 2 he t2 caryatid and t3 polukranos and I had no answer. Jeskai Tokens cannot beat a resolved Polukranos if the opponent is clever, it just can't, unless you want to 2-1 for yourself and destroy your hand on one card. Game 3 I sideboard in 4 strokes and did not see one as he did the exact same thing as in game 3 and easily dispatches me. It felt pretty bad, wanted to drop, but all my friends kept going, so I thought I might as well keep playtesting with the deck. Round 4- UB Control 2-1 This guy is pretty casual and nice, but as he played t1 temple of deceit I knew I was playing one of my worst matchups in testing- UB control. Game 1 was a horrible long affair of him ashioking +2ing me to death as I fail to resolve a threat. He jokingly told me in between sideboarding that he mainboards 4 bile blights and 4 drowns and I thought it was impossible (bad move, when I was sideboarding, I guess) so I sideboard out all of my token generators and board in 4 strokes, elspeth, keranos and 2 gryffs. Game 2 and 3 was a bit bad for him, as he couldn't draw into his removal spells and a resolved rabblemaster destroys him and game 3 a resolved Keranos kills him as my multiple disdainful stoke I had couldn't make resolve a perilous vault to dispatch it. Also, in that game I realise how amazing Chandra, Pyromaster is. When left unchecked, she really is great in this deck. Went 2-1 and I felt overjoyed I triumphed over one of my worse matchups. Round 5- Abzan Aggro (my teammate!) 2-0 My best friend and teammate had some terrible luck this PPTQ. In a round of 70+ people, he managed to face all 3 of us who was with him in the car and playtested with each other for this tournament and LOST to all of us. I was the last one. His fleecemane lions and deathdealers got destroyed and chump blocked by my vast amount of tokens and lightning strikes, then game 2 he mulled to 5 and got stuck on one land while I kept a super reactive hand after sideboarding (2 end hostilities, 2 strokes etc etc) and I couldn't find a threat at all, so it turned into a game of draw go for about 5 turns until I resolved rabblemasters and dispatched him mercifully. Poor guy, he had a 100% record to his non-friends but went 4-3 on the day. Round 6- Mardu Midrange (AGAIN) 2-1 This match-up was really fuzzy as I was really loving tired, but it was the same way with this Jeskai Tokens, Game 1 I got killed by butcher and his friends, then sideboarding into a more control deck after knowing they have anger in the SB and grinding them out game 2 and 3 for the win. Round 7- Temur Midrange 2-1 A strange deck with Yisan and Soul of Zendikar, he easily dispatches me game 1 with a resolved Polukranos, then game 2 I sideboarded into the control package and he kept a one lander with two mystics and I killed them both with lightning strikes and didn't draw land fast enough. Game 3 I stroked all of his big creatures and ascendancy provided enough value for the win. Got 6 packs, got home after 12 hours of playing magic, collapsed and now a bit salty at how nervous I was in the first games, oh well I'll do better next time.  As I repeated many times over the rounds, I sideboarded almost into a Jeskai Control deck with Ascendancies for consistency and I lost most of my game 1s. Honestly think that the match-up game 1 against the most common decks is really bad and boarding in disdainful strokes really helps against the powerful threats. I really think they should be MB after this tournament.
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Dec 15, 2014 12:59
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Chamale posted:I was playing a Legacy match with my Thought Lash/Laboratory Maniac deck, and my opponent hit me with turn 1 Thoughtseize/Surgical Extraction for my Laboratory Maniacs, so my only win condition was Jace, the Mind Sculptor. Over the course of the game I cast 4 Counterspell, 4 Force of Will, and 4 Jace, got off an ultimate, and eventually my opponent conceded with 1 card in his library to my 2. I asked in the Eternal thread but can I see the list you are running? I've been trying the version I posted a while ago that dicks around with Skill Borrowers and Tops and stuff and it just ain't getting there.
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Dec 15, 2014 15:10
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Chamale posted:There's a format called Noble, where you play a 60-card deck of commons and uncommons and choose a rare to be your pseudo-commander. Fluctuator is banned in that format thanks to a deck I built. The only format where Battle of Wits is good.
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Dec 15, 2014 15:13
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Entropic posted:The only format where Battle of Wits is good. Care you walk me through the logic in this? Because I think I'm missing how Battle of Wits is good in a format with enforced 60 card decks.
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Dec 15, 2014 15:33
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Jenx posted:Care you walk me through the logic in this? Because I think I'm missing how Battle of Wits is good in a format with enforced 60 card decks. Noble is a "sixty card" format in the way Standard is, i.e. minimum sixty card but it's almost always correct to play exactly 60. You so you can play Battle of Wits as your noble and run a 240 card U/G deck consisting of every cheap common/uncommon ramp or counter spell ever printed. No need for tutors like a traditional BoW deck.
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Dec 15, 2014 15:38
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Entropic posted:Noble is a "sixty card" format in the way Standard is, i.e. minimum sixty card but it's almost always correct to play exactly 60. Oh, I thought the 60 card deck thing was enforced, a la EDH. Then yeah, Battle of Wits just sounds drat broken.
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Dec 15, 2014 15:58
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Jenx posted:Oh, I thought the 60 card deck thing was enforced, a la EDH. Then yeah, Battle of Wits just sounds drat broken. I dunno, seems like it's not that good if anyone bothers to play naturalize, erase, etc.
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Dec 15, 2014 16:25
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Ableist Kinkshamer posted:I dunno, seems like it's not that good if anyone bothers to play naturalize, erase, etc. I've never actually played the format so I have no idea how fast it is, but if you're not already dead on turn 5 that seems pretty strong.
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Dec 15, 2014 16:30
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Booklegger posted:He goes (went?) to our store here, Game Theory. He's good, but a touch insufferable. So basically just like every grinder at everyone's local game store.
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Dec 15, 2014 16:38
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Angry Grimace posted:So basically just like every grinder at everyone's local game store. Except he's 17 and actually good so I'm sure he's worse than most.
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Dec 15, 2014 16:39
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Dr. Stab posted:That's actually a really simple rule. If they've already blocked him, then that's it, he's blocked. You can unmorph him before they block so they can't block it, but once he's blocked, that's it. But it's bullshit unintuitive. "Here, have a card you can flip up to surprise your opponent... except surprising them doesn't actually work and we're not going to mention that on the card."
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Dec 15, 2014 17:04
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Keiya posted:But it's bullshit unintuitive. "Here, have a card you can flip up to surprise your opponent... except surprising them doesn't actually work and we're not going to mention that on the card." You can still surprise them, just flip it before blockers.
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Equilibrium posted:Jeskai Ascendancy is just an ugly mess of triggers. Regardless of power level, I'm not sure how that thing got printed. I've been having lots of fun watching people who don't know how to actually play that deck try to run it at FNM and end up fizzling when their opponent doesn't just scoop to the Ascendancy.
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Keiya posted:But it's bullshit unintuitive. "Here, have a card you can flip up to surprise your opponent... except surprising them doesn't actually work and we're not going to mention that on the card." It's consistent. Intuitiveness is subjective at best - just remember that once something is blocked you can't change that it's been blocked, just like you can't tap down a creature during declare attackers to keep it from attacking (you do this during start of combat at latest), therefore, if you want to give something evasion, do it at the end of the declare attackers step before passing priority at the latest.
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Keiya posted:But it's bullshit unintuitive. "Here, have a card you can flip up to surprise your opponent... except surprising them doesn't actually work and we're not going to mention that on the card." Unblockable just means that no creature can be assigned to block it. Once blockers have already been assigned, the "unblockable" ability is irrelevant. e: In other words, the "can't be blocked" text only has any relevance to gameplay when blockers are being declared, so you need to flip your mystic during the declare attackers step at the latest, if you want it to be unblockable. Starving Autist fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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Dec 15, 2014 17:46
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AgentSythe posted:I asked in the Eternal thread but can I see the list you are running? I've been trying the version I posted a while ago that dicks around with Skill Borrowers and Tops and stuff and it just ain't getting there. I'm still playing the unrefined version I posted about 3 weeks ago, I'm not sure exactly how to go about testing a better one. Once I go on break I should have a bit of time for playtesting stuff and buying new cards. Thanks to Treasure Cruise, it's much better than the version I posted in May. Chamale posted:
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Dec 15, 2014 18:03
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qbert posted:Yeah, his quips are the best. When Davis mulligan-ed to 4 and then actually managed to stabilize for a turn or two, Chapin's deadpan "Do you see that Cedric? He moves like they do!" got a good laugh out of both Cedric and myself. I don't get the joke. What's it from?
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Dec 15, 2014 18:48
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The Matrix? Trinity says, "You moved like they do." lovely YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LMGF8-8dFY&t=75s Or it's some meme?
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Angry Grimace posted:So basically just like every grinder at everyone's local game store. Need an elaboration on this one if you would please
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