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adamantium|wang posted:People are taking selfies in front of the police cordon
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bell jar posted:can i introduce you to the concept of humour Great, does that mean it's ok to use the n-word or by a misogynist in humorous ways? No, I didn't think so. Just because they're attacking the mainstream doesn't make broad sweeping hatespeech ok.
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Dec 15, 2014 07:46
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I'm waiting for the basement dwellers to start crying "FALSE FLAG ATTACK!"
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Hocus Pocus posted:I'm sure it's been quoted but you can make a complaint using this form on the press council's website. Reason for complaint "Inciting a race war"
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Systematic posted:I'm waiting for the basement dwellers to start crying "FALSE FLAG ATTACK!" Check literally the first post in this thread on the matter.
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Dec 15, 2014 07:47
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Can it even be called a terrorist attack if nothing has been attacked?
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Dec 15, 2014 07:48
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I'm calling dibs on "releasing the chocolate hostages" for my newspaper headline
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Dec 15, 2014 07:51
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Anidav posted:Can it even be called a terrorist attack if nothing has been attacked?
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Dec 15, 2014 07:52
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Guy on ABC24 is pretty reasonable atm.
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Dec 15, 2014 07:52
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quote:Channel 10 is the third media outlet saying they have been contacted by hostages in the Lindt cafe. The hostages said the offender has two demands:
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Dec 15, 2014 07:52
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Bullshit. An IS flag? loving hell.
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Dec 15, 2014 07:54
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WebDog posted:2. They want an Isis flag brought to the cafe So he's embarrassed that he got the wrong flag?
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Dec 15, 2014 07:54
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Anidav posted:Can it even be called a terrorist attack if nothing has been attacked? Hey if Anita Sarkeesian is 'attacked' when threats are made online then this counts as an attack and one where a 'trigger warning' would actually have been helpful!
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Dec 15, 2014 07:55
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These two guys are just gonna end up being late teenage/early twenties no hopers who follow the ISIS facebook page, were considered too stupid to take by ISIS recruiters and wanted to do their part anyway, right?
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Dec 15, 2014 07:55
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Does he think the police just have an ISIS flag laying around?
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Dec 15, 2014 07:55
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I'm an American on vacation to Australia to visit my family that lives here. We left Sydney this morning to see the Blue Mountains and were surprised to see tons of emergency vehicles heading the other way, and a few minutes later started getting texts and seeing social media posts about this. What are the odds.
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Dec 15, 2014 07:55
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Anidav posted:Bullshit. An IS flag? loving hell. Agreed it's ridiculous, how hard would it be to just make one with a couple of aprons and some cream from behind the counter.
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Dec 15, 2014 07:56
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mastershakeman posted:I'm an American on vacation to Australia to visit my family that lives here. We left Sydney this morning to see the Blue Mountains and were surprised to see tons of emergency vehicles heading the other way, and a few minutes later started getting texts and seeing social media posts about this. What are the odds. Did you enjoy the Blue Mountains? Katoomba is nice.
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Dec 15, 2014 07:56
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Rapner posted:Great, does that mean it's ok to use the n-word or by a misogynist in humorous ways? No, I didn't think so. It wasn't only a matter of humor. More to point out how this kind of language never actually appears whenever a similar incident happens with an isolated white person or two committing similar or worse crimes. And how ridiculous it would sound if it did. I literally took existing Facebook messages someone had posted earlier about this event, but changed them to refer to white people instead of Muslims. For some reason, the logic of "one person from group X doing bad thing proves that MULTICULTURALISM IS OVER, GUYS" never gets applied to white people the way Australians will happily apply it freely and casually towards Muslims. That behavior and faulty logic definitely needs to be called out. I don't think all white people are like this, though. I have some white friends!
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Dec 15, 2014 07:59
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So far this terrorist attack seems less threatening then a petrol station hold up. Or a cop trying to arrest a mentally ill man.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:00
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mastershakeman posted:I'm an American on vacation to Australia to visit my family that lives here. We left Sydney this morning to see the Blue Mountains and were surprised to see tons of emergency vehicles heading the other way, and a few minutes later started getting texts and seeing social media posts about this. What are the odds. I hope you and your family aren't too freaked out by the coincidence! please spend money, our budget is in tatters
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Dec 15, 2014 08:01
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Ian Winthorpe III posted:Did you enjoy the Blue Mountains? Katoomba is nice. I keep thinking the blue haze is smog. Loved it here, liking Sydney much more than Fitzroy where my sister lives.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:01
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Bifauxnen posted:It wasn't only a matter of humor. More to point out how this kind of language never actually appears whenever a similar incident happens with an isolated white person or two committing similar or worse crimes. And how ridiculous it would sound if it did. I literally took existing Facebook messages someone had posted earlier about this event, but changed them to refer to white people instead of Muslims. You should probably stop obsessing so much over your whiteness, it's kinda tacky bro.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:01
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Bifauxnen posted:It wasn't only a matter of humor. More to point out how this kind of language never actually appears whenever a similar incident happens with an isolated white person or two committing similar or worse crimes. And how ridiculous it would sound if it did. I literally took existing Facebook messages someone had posted earlier about this event, but changed them to refer to white people instead of Muslims. So because some people are using hatespeech in other places you brought it here. GOOD JOB.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:02
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IslamoNazi posted:Reason for complaint "Inciting a race war" What principals are they actually breaching? I'm having trouble picking the exact ones for the form.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:02
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mastershakeman posted:I keep thinking the blue haze is smog. Loved it here, liking Sydney much more than Fitzroy where my sister lives. Good to hear and agreed, Melbourne is overrated and boring, especially the inner North.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:02
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So a few people at my work were talking about bomb threats being called in around Sydney. I never saw it mentioned anywhere. Was that all just bullshit?
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Dec 15, 2014 08:03
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mastershakeman posted:I keep thinking the blue haze is smog. Loved it here, liking Sydney much more than Fitzroy where my sister lives. It kind of is smog, it's just smog caused by the evaporating eucalyptus oil from the trees.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:04
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Rapner posted:Great, does that mean it's ok to use the n-word or by a misogynist in humorous ways? No, I didn't think so. lol
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Dec 15, 2014 08:04
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Rapner posted:Great, does that mean it's ok to use the n-word or by a misogynist in humorous ways? No, I didn't think so. i can't stop laughing at this
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Dec 15, 2014 08:04
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Eggheads was cancelled for rolling coverage of the Sydney siege, now I'm real upset. Never thought I could be so put-out by radical Islam.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:05
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Rapner posted:So because some people are using hatespeech in other places you brought it here. GOOD JOB. lol
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Dec 15, 2014 08:05
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you're worse at obviously trolling this thread than i am
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Dec 15, 2014 08:06
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cpaf posted:Eggheads was cancelled for rolling coverage of the Sydney siege, now I'm real upset. Never thought I could be so put-out by radical Islam. 
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Dec 15, 2014 08:06
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NTRabbit posted:These two guys are just gonna end up being late teenage/early twenties no hopers who follow the ISIS facebook page, were considered too stupid to take by ISIS recruiters and wanted to do their part anyway, right? I thought it was a lone gunman and from the grainy pictures I'm seeing of him - he looks more like a grizzled middle aged biker then the traditional jihadist I'm used to seeing in the media. 
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Dec 15, 2014 08:08
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Neif posted:I thought it was a lone gunman and from the grainy pictures I'm seeing of him - he looks more like a grizzled middle aged biker then the traditional jihadist I'm used to seeing in the media. I'm used to seeing clear close-ups of people rather than distorted long-range pictures through glass, so who knows
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Dec 15, 2014 08:10
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Neif posted:I thought it was a lone gunman and from the grainy pictures I'm seeing of him - he looks more like a grizzled middle aged biker then the traditional jihadist I'm used to seeing in the media. Now I'm leaning towards one guy who learned how to facebook from the kids he just lost custody of in family court.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:10
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Do we even know that grainy picture is the guy? Being internet detective is dangerous stuff. The poo poo that happened during the Boston bomb was utter insanity.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:11
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OK, so this guy came in with a flag. He's released people with demands of a ISIS flag. This means that he had the wrong flag and it's literally a false flag operation.
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Dec 15, 2014 08:12
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This raises a good objection, though. My whole point relies on the unspoken assumption that if you think this kind of speech towards white people is totally not okay bro, it should hopefully click in your mind that maybe it's not okay towards Muslims either! So the people unironically posting that poo poo about Muslims on Facebook would have to be at least smarter than Rapner right now for my message to have any point whatsoever. I don't think I've got good odds here.
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