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The Protagonist posted:That said you can beat this mission without firing a shot by sending a wing of ~15-20 of pretty much any kind of strike craft/corvette to the top of the map, across the yard, then straight down on the transmitter. You'll inevitably lose a few but the message will get out.
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berryjon posted:I could just stare at the background all day. Holy poo poo at that massive wall. Thats multiple planets worth of metals. Its just so loving mindbogglingly HUGE.
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Tzarnal posted:Holy poo poo at that massive wall. Thats multiple planets worth of metals. Its just so loving mindbogglingly HUGE.
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Tzarnal posted:Holy poo poo at that massive wall. Thats multiple planets worth of metals. Its just so loving mindbogglingly HUGE. Wait until we come back in HW2. Oh wait, never mind. It's another thing they screwed up.
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Saint Celestine posted:Wait... can... can you actually do this? When they pop back up after they're taken, they're flagged as "not yours" until your own salvage process is completed, so if you've built up to the cap and try to salvage one more, it won't work 
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Dec 12, 2014 21:45
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The background in this mission always made me uneasy. It's too big, it's too far, it's too regular. It just unnerved me in a hard-to-justify manner I never settled.
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Dec 12, 2014 22:03
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ZeeToo posted:The background in this mission always made me uneasy. It's too big, it's too far, it's too regular. It just unnerved me in a hard-to-justify manner I never settled.
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Dec 12, 2014 22:06
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ZeeToo posted:The background in this mission always made me uneasy. It's too big, it's too far, it's too regular. It just unnerved me in a hard-to-justify manner I never settled.
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Dec 12, 2014 22:13
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:When they pop back up after they're taken, they're flagged as "not yours" until your own salvage process is completed, so if you've built up to the cap and try to salvage one more, it won't work You can salvage above the cap, though. It's only building that's disabled.
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Dec 12, 2014 23:23
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Given the size of the map, it takes a long time to fly up and around. Takes a long time to go straight through mind you. drat it. where can I get a copy of Homeworld. I have an itch to scratch.
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Dec 12, 2014 23:51
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Hey, there's a spelling error in the game. Subtitles say "Cloaked Generator". While the generator itself may be cloaked, I'm going to go ahead and assume "Cloak Generator" is the right term.
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Dec 13, 2014 00:09
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I don't think it was mentioned at all, but in the long range scan mode where you zoom out all the way, if you look at the way the resources are laid out you will notice something interesting. You can see it best at the 3:00 mark. Yeah. It is a wire-frame of a ship. awesome huh? Kinda lead me to making my own headcannon that this wasn't just a ship graveyard, but also the remains of an absolutely MASSIVE ship foundry.
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You say that Elson is named after Harlan Ellison, but I think he's actually named after Peter Elson, the illustrator whose designs inspired a lot of the Homeworld ships: 
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All primary video recordings are done. Homeworld 1 is complete. There will be no fourth Skirmish video. I will begin Homeworld: Cataclysm after the last video here is posted. John Liver posted:You say that Elson is named after Harlan Ellison, but I think he's actually named after Peter Elson, the illustrator whose designs inspired a lot of the Homeworld ships: I will put your correction in the OP.
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You can also cheese this mission with a carrier. Send it to the very top edge of the map and you will be just a hair out of the dog's active range. Then fly right above the beacon and send waves of strike craft until one manages to dock.
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Dec 13, 2014 06:02
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I really like the design of the Junkyard Dog, with its large ship-grabbing pincers and all. Prior to Homeworld 2 (is there an echo in here?), I thought that the Dog was an automated defense or maintenance vehicle left behind by whoever was building the Dyson sphere, and it inspired a sense of wonder. Then that went down the toilet when Homeworld 2 came along and well, we'll discuss it when we get there I guess.
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Something I was wondering, you can force your resource collectors to "attack" things, right? And they'll suck up minute amounts of resources from the things they beam to death... so can you force your resourcers to collect from the ship scraps floating around, and spend a couple hours building up a massive stockpile of RU's by drips and drabs?
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Captain Bravo posted:Something I was wondering, you can force your resource collectors to "attack" things, right? And they'll suck up minute amounts of resources from the things they beam to death... so can you force your resourcers to collect from the ship scraps floating around, and spend a couple hours building up a massive stockpile of RU's by drips and drabs? There is a much better way to waste many hours building up a massive stockpile of RUs and you will learn about it very soon.
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Dec 13, 2014 06:52
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It's a shame you can't salvage the Junkyard Dog. I wonder if "can salvage" is just a simple tag in the text files somewhere that can be flipped to yes/no... salvage the Dog, then spend the rest of the campaign having it pilfer everything. I wonder if that would even work.
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Dec 13, 2014 12:19
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Okay, I tested the proposed junkyard dawg/ unit cap exploit, and unfortunately it does not work. Ships stolen in this mission still count towards your unit cap. On the other hand, I've discovered a weird bug with JD. First of all, the ships were in a completely different place than the one indicated by berryjohn. Second, after nabbing my fourth destroyer and going through the gate, JD flew to the region where it was stashing ships and froze, the destroyer still in its pincers.
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Aumanor posted:Second, after nabbing my fourth destroyer and going through the gate, JD flew to the region where it was stashing ships and froze, the destroyer still in its pincers. The Dawg is bugged and can lock up like this. It happens quite often for me.
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Yeah I've seen that too. You can still blow it up, but your ships have a bit of trouble aiming at it and your captured ship will take a fairly heavy hit of collateral damage. Also, the amount of heavy cruisers you have at the endgame is your official game score. If the dog exploit worked, then records would be shattered.
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Aumanor posted:First of all, the ships were in a completely different place than the one indicated by berryjohn. IIRC the Dog has more than one 'nest' it drags ships off to.
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PurpleXVI posted:It's a shame you can't salvage the Junkyard Dog. I wonder if "can salvage" is just a simple tag in the text files somewhere that can be flipped to yes/no... salvage the Dog, then spend the rest of the campaign having it pilfer everything. I wonder if that would even work. It wouldn't because the Dog has special ai for salvaging based around the standing hyperspace gates. Some serious modding might make it possible, but it'll be much more involved than just flipping a tag.
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One more time: If anyone wants to chat/commentate for a Skirmish Video, please let me know! I've only got one confirmed at this point, and I would like two more due to the length of the video!
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The Protagonist posted:It wouldn't because the Dog has special ai for salvaging based around the standing hyperspace gates. Some serious modding might make it possible, but it'll be much more involved than just flipping a tag. I wonder what would happen if you designated the Mothership as a hyperspace gate... I like to imagine the Dog grabbing one of your ships, taking it back to the Mothership, and then you just send it right back out again. It'd be like playing fetch! 
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berryjon posted:One more time: If anyone wants to chat/commentate for a Skirmish Video, please let me know! I've only got one confirmed at this point, and I would like two more due to the length of the video! Oh hey I can probably do this sometime tomorrow.
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Have they said if the remake will have mod support yet? Im getting kind of worried that its mid december and they have only released a handful of screenshots.
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Crash74 posted:Have they said if the remake will have mod support yet? Im getting kind of worried that its mid december and they have only released a handful of screenshots. Not sure... The lack of news regarding the remake is kind of annoying. I wish they'd give us more updates on their progress. I'm not asking for a release date or anything, but some information would be appreciated.  I wouldn't be surprised if there was mod support tho. Homeworld was a highly moddable game from what I remember and Gearbox seem to be trying to respect the game and its fans.drat I wish it was out in time for Xmas 
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Ahh Karos. I was waiting for this level. Absolutely mind blowing the first time I played it. I remember watching my ships warp in, being zoomed out and having trouble finding them because I couldn't comprehend the size of the derelicts. It's even more astounding when you read the manual and realize how huge the mothership is. If I remember it's literally several kilometers long.
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There were some.... technical difficulties with the Skirmish recording this evening. Nothing insurmountable, but I didn't get a viable audio for everyone. So I went out and recorded the first three missions of Cataclysm instead. And if anyone wants to try and get into a Commentating session, the doors are open again!
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Carbolic Smokeball posted:Ahh Karos. I was waiting for this level. Absolutely mind blowing the first time I played it. I remember watching my ships warp in, being zoomed out and having trouble finding them because I couldn't comprehend the size of the derelicts. Yeah! Contrasting the opening cutscene with the content of Graveyard is a pretty cool expansion of scale over the course of the story. I think its also cool that they took that aesthetic in this mission put at this particular point in the game which makes the "pinch" from the second to third act in the overall narrative. We establish relations and unlock the biggest baddest ships in our arsenal and start breaking into the Homeworld proper. It just so happens this quiet moment in our explosive expansion and revenge occurs against the backdrop of incomprehensibly large colossi built an unfathomable eternity ago for reasons we will never ever guess at. Just a friendly reminder the universe is massive and will proceed along just fine regardless of the outcome.
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I will say I was a little disappointed the Dog didn't get his day. I would have liked to see him drag off a hapless crew and then a gate-hunt until you can retrieve them. I always felt giving the JD a strike-craft class engine was an oversight. Oh but here's a thing:  I'd love to see this transperified, would make an awesome av. The Protagonist fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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berryjon posted:There were some.... technical difficulties with the Skirmish recording this evening. Nothing insurmountable, but I didn't get a viable audio for everyone. I remember those three missions all too well. Then again, the tests do say only 2 out of a thousand people have a better memory than me. So, it might just be me. There are a distressingly large amount of people in China with a better memory than me.
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The Protagonist posted:I'd love to see this transperified, would make an awesome av. You mean like this?  (Bonus version, sped up:) 
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Add a title like "Welcome to the junkyard, dawg" and boom, insta HW infamy.
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anilEhilated posted:Add a title like "Welcome to the junkyard, dawg" and boom, insta HW infamy. Or, "I'm sorry, were you using that?"
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Or if you could animate the pincers opening and snapping shut threateningly that'd be even better.
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Bada climp bada clamp
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berryjon posted:There were some.... technical difficulties with the Skirmish recording this evening. Nothing insurmountable, but I didn't get a viable audio for everyone. Berryjon is being polite here but really should've said "Fai is a big dumb idiot who didn't set things up correctly and ruined an hour's worth of commentating."  It's a shame, because the video was a blast to do. Hopefully we can get the band back together when everyone's schedules line up.
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