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Alain Post posted:There's a freaking skeleton surrounded by needles. This is the greatest storytelling in the history of all gaming. Holy crap, the feels. What people don't know is that it's the skeleton of a massive fat man who got stuck in the bath and died because he couldn't reach his insulin. This is why goons relate to it on an unconscious level.
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New Total War game.... hurra.... 
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Dec 15, 2014 18:45
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*expression darkens while listening to audiolog* Jesus Christ. That explains the skeletons... I think that's enough gaming for tonight.
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Dec 15, 2014 18:46
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Keeshhound posted:I didn't mean that as an endorsement. I think the latest Assassin's Creed and Far Cry installments are a far bigger indictment of Ubisoft's "strategy" of "poo poo out open world games as fast as possible, quality be damned" than anything I could type. What's wrong with FC4? I hear Unity has had its problems but Far Cry 4 impressions seem to be "more of the same, but better" and for people who like that kind of game I guess that's okay for them.
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Dec 15, 2014 18:49
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exquisite tea posted:What's wrong with FC4? I hear Unity has had its problems but Far Cry 4 impressions seem to be "more of the same, but better" and for people who like that kind of game I guess that's okay for them. If you are running anything in SLI or have a dual core processor (which you probably shouldn't if you're buying these games anyhow) the game shits itself horribly. Other than that I've noticed stuttering that got much better for me after the 1.5 patch. However, the same patch introduced a memory leak that ubi has at least recognized and stated that they're working on. FC4 and AC:U are worlds apart in terms of quality; Ubi has a long way to go with it (1 save slot? dumb.) but comparing the two is kinda eh.
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Dec 15, 2014 19:26
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Keeshhound posted:I didn't mean that as an endorsement. I think the latest Assassin's Creed and Far Cry installments are a far bigger indictment of Ubisoft's "strategy" of "poo poo out open world games as fast as possible, quality be damned" than anything I could type.
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Dec 15, 2014 19:34
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I'm soured to Far Cry 4 because it's a game in TYOOL 2014 that doesn't recognize USB devices to the point where I had to get a PS/2 keyboard off a family member as my USB keyboard would not work with the game at all. The plot is half-assed to the point where it seems like they didn't recognize any of the issues in Far Cry 3 for what they were and just assumed the only problem with it was that Jason Brody was white, which is at the core of the problem but doesn't excuse all the other poo poo. So they've made Ajay a token native and conveniently manage to cover up most of his arm (the only part you see of him) with a tracksuit and leather gloves, just incase people buy it and accidentally see some brown skin. That aside, they also seem to completely latch on to the most stupid poo poo imaginable to improve while the real things they should focus on seem to be on the periphery. Stealth is poo poo and broken. People complain that the stealth in Far Cry 2 is broken in one way, the stealth in FC4 is broken in the opposite. You can kill a guy with a gunshot to the skull and people will just look around a bit and decide "Maybe it was the gun-shooting bird of Kyrat" and not do anything. No alarms, no nothing. The guns could be great, but they've decided the best way to 'balance' them is to make the cool guns all signature and severely limit the options for customization on every other gun. So you can't build a cool silenced rifle unless it's of a certain type, or if you buy the signature version, which may have crap on it you don't want. Only the plus side they now have more animals! This an amazing thing, for sure, as now instead of shooting the lock off a cage to take over an outpost and having a tiger or a cassowary, you can now have a ton of extra model swaps! It also has actual loving Cliff Racers, but even more annoying, yet this is somehow a good thing.
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Ddraig posted:I'm soured to Far Cry 4 because it's a game in TYOOL 2014 that doesn't recognize USB devices to the point where I had to get a PS/2 keyboard off a family member as my USB keyboard would not work with the game at all. lol
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Dec 15, 2014 19:47
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No, seriously, they seem to have absolutely no idea how to make compelling characters. Pagan Min is a joke. The first time you ever see him he stabs a guy repeatedly in the throat because he disobeyed an order, which is pretty much the most try hard way to make an 'evil dictator' imaginable, especially given that virtually all of the most vile and deplorable dictators in actual history have had huge cults of personality and it's usually only after they've been deposed that most of their excesses and genocidal behavior come to light. Even Idi Amin, a guy who allegedly actually loving ate people, was considered at worst a buffoon by Western media and at best a soft spoken man 'as gentle as a lamb' (actual quote from the British newspapers) Yet despite him murdering people directly infront of you he apparently really wants to be your surrogate father and will send you messages saying that all is forgiven if you come back. The 'I'm a really nice guy, honest, I just have a very difficult job' aspect would have probably worked a lot better if he didn't stab a guy repeatedly in the loving throat right infront of you. I get a lot of poo poo for criticizing the plot of Far Cry 4, but I wish they would have either have gone completely into absurdity and focused that energy on making the actual game better or put in more research than watching some films and calling it a day.
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This is why I prefer Blood Dragon.
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I think you get a lot of poo poo about criticizing Far Cry 4 because you post like it killed your dog or something.Ddraig posted:Only the plus side they now have more animals! This an amazing thing, for sure, as now instead of shooting the lock off a cage to take over an outpost and having a tiger or a cassowary, you can now have a ton of extra model swaps! I mean, if you don't like it that's cool, but poo poo like this makes you sound like a dick.
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Dec 15, 2014 20:06
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Ddraig posted:No, seriously, they seem to have absolutely no idea how to make compelling characters. Pagan Min is a joke. The first time you ever see him he stabs a guy repeatedly in the throat because he disobeyed an order, which is pretty much the most try hard way to make an 'evil dictator' imaginable, especially given that virtually all of the most vile and deplorable dictators in actual history have had huge cults of personality and it's usually only after they've been deposed that most of their excesses and genocidal behavior come to light. That's way more words of critique than a popcorn game like Far Cry 4 really needs. And your analysis of famous dictators is dumb, it doesn't really matter what dictators seem like to "Western media" given the main character's role in FC4 and that he's meeting the dictator himself, not hearing about him on a cable news channel.
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Even Hitler didn't kill people directly infront of the people he was trying to impress. Particularly those outside of the loop. The 1936 Summer Olympics didn't feature a ceremonial flogging of the Jews in the opening ceremony. I mean, I get that they want to make him seem like a terrible person, but there's ways of doing it that don't completely devolve into farce or just being edgy. What exactly is there to be gained by having Pagan kill a guy right infront of you rather than you discovering that guy being beaten/tortured on your own? It's laughable because the latter thing is actually something that happens, and would have been a great reveal that 'maybe this guy isn't just slightly quirky', if you hadn't seen Pagan stab a guy in the throat with a pen and in the shoulder with a fork. Also sorry I'm not impressed by the wildlife. Cliff Racers were annoying as gently caress in Morrowind, they're annoying as gently caress in Far Cry 4. A bad idea doesn't stop being a bad idea if it's made fun of.
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Dec 15, 2014 20:20
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brb just lmaoing a little
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Ddraig posted:Even Hitler didn't kill people directly infront of the people he was trying to impress. Particularly those outside of the loop. The 1936 Summer Olympics didn't feature a ceremonial flogging of the Jews in the opening ceremony. its insanely cool to have the bad guy slaughter a dude in front of you, thats why
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Dec 15, 2014 20:34
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Davincie posted:its insanely cool to have the bad guy slaughter a dude in front of you, thats why Also Troy Baker.
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Dec 15, 2014 20:48
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exquisite tea posted:What's wrong with FC4? I hear Unity has had its problems but Far Cry 4 impressions seem to be "more of the same, but better" and for people who like that kind of game I guess that's okay for them. The people I'd spoken to on the subject were less positive, but that's neither here nor there, I suppose. Either way though, you're right that Far Cry isn't a great example of the phenomenon I was referring to, since it's had more than one year in between releases. Assassin's Creed, on the other hand has had at least one release every year since 2007. 
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I am going to hunt elephants with C4 while reading this post on how the wildlife is not interesting
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i dont give a poo poo about whether or not far cry 3 is realistic or sensitive to racial issues or anything, just that its plot was super boring and stupid.
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Dec 15, 2014 20:52
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god drat is this game chat or game dissertation gently caress all posts longer than 100 words here: farcry 4 is fun, its got ubisoft jank and it gets boring eventually. its really easy to platinum if you care about that kind of thing. it runs well on consoles, garbage on pcs.
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Dec 15, 2014 20:53
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troy baker's "shooting an elephant," 2014, featuring c4 in service of the ubisoft empire
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Coolguye posted:I am going to hunt elephants with C4 while reading this post on how the wildlife is not interesting 
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Dec 15, 2014 21:00
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i really like ff tactics, are tactics advance and advance 2 worth playing?
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Hog Inspector posted:i really like ff tactics, are tactics advance and advance 2 worth playing? I didn't like them as much, but they sate your appetite for more tactics games. Why can't they make a Tactics Maker like RPG Maker? I'd never need to buy another game again!
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yea they're good as tactics games but they're no where near as good as the og one there are other tactical rpgs that you could give a swing that you might enjoy. im hard pressed to think of any recent good ones.
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Hog Inspector posted:i really like ff tactics, are tactics advance and advance 2 worth playing? Yes and no. Tactics Advance is an okay game until you realize that it's a completely and utterly broken mess. There's a beautiful Let's Play of it featuring all of the many ways to break the game over your knee if you're interested: http://lparchive.org/Final-Fantasy-Tactics-Advance/ A2 is a lot better and more complete of a game, but still not as good as the original Tactics. I recommend playing it, there's no need to play the first one beforehand as there's little to no relevant story connection.
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Davincie posted:its insanely cool to have the bad guy slaughter a dude in front of you, thats why OK, great, but why exactly is Ubisoft presumably hiring guys to make cool as poo poo stuff and yet not punishing them profusely when they make something that isn't cool as poo poo, i.e. virtually all of the plot and story of Far Cry 4 that isn't "Blow these people up" They WASTED MONEY making a game that has a civil war thread running through it that reads like a C grade teenager's understanding of civil war (these two people are bad, maybe they're as bad as each other, maybe they're even as bad as the bad bad man?) when they could have paid them less money and had it be Jurassic Park with Honey Badgers or spent a little more money on a guy to read over this stuff and make sure it wasn't a complete pile of poo poo. Maybe if they're that hard up for cash they could get some intern to go over it with a red pen.
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The Shortest Path posted:Yes and no. I enjoy games that can be broken horribly like that but I can see why some people might not.
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Ddraig posted:OK, great, but why exactly is Ubisoft presumably hiring guys to make cool as poo poo stuff and yet not punishing them profusely when they make something that isn't cool as poo poo, i.e. virtually all of the plot and story of Far Cry 4 that isn't "Blow these people up" i think because youre in the minority. thats why
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I won't pay full price for far cry 4 but I DID buy marlow briggs for $2 and it also has a cartoonishly evil dictator that kills someone in the first 2 minutes so I figure I'm getting pretty much the same gaming experience. Thumbs up for this dumb low-budget god of war clone - what it lacks in polish it makes up for in silliness.
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Hog Inspector posted:i really like ff tactics, are tactics advance and advance 2 worth playing? I think they're both better than FFT which is massively overrated in general. They're better mainly because battles aren't nightmarishly slow like in the original, but both games also have storylines that aren't taken as seriously which is a good thing in my opinion.
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They could have even made it so that the reason every animal in the country being bloodthirsty killers hellbent on your destruction (even those traditionally thought of to be quite docile and unaggressive if unprovoked) a result of the evil Pagan Min's genetic experimentation. That way they could even tie it back into the original Far Cry and have people cumming themselves at the passing reference.
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The Shortest Path posted:Yes and no. thanks, i enjoy ridiculous/broken games so i'll check them both out
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The only reason I needed to shoot rhinos with a tank busting rocket launcher or an anti-material rifle was that I needed like 5 hides to make a bigger wallet thanks for your deep analysis of fauna norms though
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Ddraig posted:OK, great, but why exactly is Ubisoft presumably hiring guys to make cool as poo poo stuff and yet not punishing them profusely when they make something that isn't cool as poo poo, i.e. virtually all of the plot and story of Far Cry 4 that isn't "Blow these people up" unironically agree. if you cant do semi-serious stuff well then why bother, it just looks dumb. either go for it and make a cool serious story game, or just do what you really want to do and make an over the top ridiculous game. it says a lot that blood dragon is still better than either farcry 3 or 4s base games.
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final fantasy tactics advance is a good game because it puts you into the shoes of an elementary school bully that ruins his best friend's dreams by putting him back into a wheelchair for the rest of his life
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DolphinCop posted:final fantasy tactics advance is a good game because it puts you into the shoes of an elementary school bully that ruins his best friend's dreams by putting him back into a wheelchair for the rest of his life
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DolphinCop posted:final fantasy tactics advance is a good game because it puts you into the shoes of an elementary school bully that ruins his best friend's dreams by putting him back into a wheelchair for the rest of his life I suppose it was only a matter of time before someone dredged this poo poo up to parade it around again.
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Ddraig posted:OK, great, but why exactly is Ubisoft presumably hiring guys to make cool as poo poo stuff and yet not punishing them profusely when they make something that isn't cool as poo poo, i.e. virtually all of the plot and story of Far Cry 4 that isn't "Blow these people up" Far Cry in Jurassic Park would be pretty loving sweet. You could make nests the capture points.
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