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Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Known sociopath with criminal history? sure no problem have some bail, maybe a shotgun in case you intend to do any more ridiculous poo poo.

You guys are loving retarded sometimes.

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DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

Lid posted:

Meanwhile


Ok... who sees the issue here? Not with the story but how it plays into a narrative.

Makes me think of the principal at Sandy Hook who rushed the gunman and got halfway to him. If either of those had had guns a lot more people would be alive today. :mad:

Firetrick
Aug 4, 2006

DeusExMachinima posted:

Makes me think of the principal at Sandy Hook who rushed the gunman and got halfway to him. If either of those had had guns a lot more people would be alive today. :mad:

Because starting a shootout in a cafe or school is a good loving idea

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Laserface posted:

Known sociopath with criminal history? sure no problem have some bail, maybe a shotgun in case you intend to do any more ridiculous poo poo.

You guys are loving retarded sometimes.

You do know said criminal history was sending offensive letters right and being essentially a raving lunatic in the paranoid conspiracy way. You're making him out to be Ivan Milat before this.

BlitzkriegOfColour
Aug 22, 2010

Gough Suppressant posted:

How often did the offender go to the gym and/or the beach?

STOP THIS!

Rapner posted:

Some 40 convictions though? He should have been locked away permanently or deported.

Okay, so, my partner was in a DV relationship before we got together., I have no sympathy whatsoever for the sorts of sickos who commit such acts. But, when you say 40, it sounds like one thing but could be another. It is a major sick thing, but, each act is counted separately. Ask your victim to take off her clothes, indecent assault, make her stand naked in front of you, indecent assault, touch her, sexual assault, have sex with her, sexual assault or rape. Etc, etc. 40 charges could easily have been from just an hour's worth of assault, depending on the statement given, the victim's willingness and ability to recall the act.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


DeusExMachinima posted:

Makes me think of the principal at Sandy Hook who rushed the gunman and got halfway to him. If either of those had had guns a lot more people would be alive today. :mad:

I think more guns would resolve this issue.

I mean, if you shot yourself, we wouldn't have to read your dumb as gently caress posting.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

I like the bit where they spend 10 minutes talking about how much paperwork is required to own a gun, and then talk about the gun buyback as a form of "backdoor gun registration".

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you

Lid posted:

Ok... who sees the issue here? Not with the story but how it plays into a narrative.

Deputy Commissioner Burn on that story:

quote:

I have not received that information and I would definitely not speculate. We have not even had an opportunity to properly and thoroughly gain that information from the people who were in there. Every single bit of information will be gathered over the next period of time but it is difficult at the moment because we are dealing with people who are understandably traumatised about what has happened and it will take us time to piece together what has occurred.

But that's not stopping the Terror from reporting it as fact.

e: Now the ABC are tweeting about it :cripes:

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

If you shoot
you better hit your mark
I think we need some more pups to help balance the mood.








Also, for the love of god, can we please avoid a 'more guns would help, derp' argument? It's absolutely dumb, and the US pro-gunners are never going to listen to any reason - they've been at it for decades now.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Statement from a solicitor who previously represented the gunman

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

loving boggled my mind how many Americans on Twitter were still saying this kind of thing wouldn't happen if we had more guns, even as a psycho in Pennsylvania killed three times as many people.

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

Think you've got what it takes?
We're looking for fine Men & Women to help Protect the Australian Way of Life.

Become part of the Legend. Defence Jobs.
If you read, you'll note that the "more guns would help" crowd have been imported from TFR and are likely US citizens.

e^^: the most hilarious statistic:

Number of firearm-related massacres in Australia since the tightening of gun control laws: 0 (not even counting this one, because one person died to a firearm and the other died of a heart attack)

Number of firearm-related massacres in the US in the same time period: at least a hundred? Two this week? I dunno, they're insane and it's hilarious


Murodese fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Dec 16, 2014

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak

DeusExMachinima posted:

Makes me think of the principal at Sandy Hook who rushed the gunman and got halfway to him. If either of those had had guns a lot more people would be alive today. :mad:

TFR posters lol.

"At one of our recent gun massacres, if everyone had more guns then they would have shot the gunman"
Your last gun massacre was a few hours ago, they barely get news coverage.

Perhaps you should examine the evidence of legislation rather than rely on your own biassed speculation? Alternatively, put that gun you love so much to use and

kill youreself

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


I think I preferred our Avshalom/BYOB invasion from last night. Much classier.

Just as a note on the TFR shitposting, it took the police roughly 30 seconds of sustained gunfire to clear the scene, and still one of them ended up shot in the face. But yeah, I'm sure a school principle with a pistol could stop a dude with an automatic rifle no problems.

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

Think you've got what it takes?
We're looking for fine Men & Women to help Protect the Australian Way of Life.

Become part of the Legend. Defence Jobs.
Look mate I don't think you loving understand just how effective a militarised mentally unstable civilian is in a hostage situation compared to fully-trained hostage extraction specialists and SAS troops

Asphyxious
Jun 25, 2012

I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life.

Splode posted:

TFR posters lol.

"At one of our recent gun massacres, if everyone had more guns then they would have shot the gunman"
Your last gun massacre was a few hours ago, they barely get news coverage.

Perhaps you should examine the evidence of legislation rather than rely on your own biassed speculation? Alternatively, put that gun you love so much to use and

kill youreself

What they need is more ruthless police control, as do we.

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Statement from a solicitor who previously represented the gunman



Huh. Seems a little unprofessional.

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

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We're looking for fine Men & Women to help Protect the Australian Way of Life.

Become part of the Legend. Defence Jobs.
What my long hours of experience in Battlefield: Bad Company 2 has taught me is that the most effective solution to this problem would be strapping some C4 onto a quad bike and driving it into the cafe before detonating it.


legalise c4

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

Laserface posted:

Known sociopath with criminal history? sure no problem have some bail, maybe a shotgun in case you intend to do any more ridiculous poo poo.

You guys are loving retarded sometimes.

yes here in australia bail authorities issue you with shotguns on your way out

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

thatbastardken posted:

Huh. Seems a little unprofessional.

Given a lot of solicitors this isn't that surprising.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

thatbastardken posted:

Huh. Seems a little unprofessional.

You'd think people like this would stay out of this and stop feeding fire.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Oh and I haven't been keeping up with the thread today, but I trust we were all appropriately appalled by Fairfax continuing the modern tradition of the Public Facebook Free-for-All by posting a hostage victim's name, academic achievements and high school exam scores.

http://www.theage.com.au/nsw/elly-chen-the-waitress-who-escaped-the-martin-place-siege-20141215-127qoj.html

Like at what point did an editor think: "Yeah... yeah, nah, her ATAR is in the public interest," and sign off on that?

Jejunity Jay
Sep 18, 2012

DeusExMachinima posted:

Makes me think of the principal at Sandy Hook who rushed the gunman and got halfway to him. If either of those had had guns a lot more people would be alive today. :mad:
Your trolling is pretty garbage tier mate.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

thatbastardken posted:

Huh. Seems a little unprofessional.

Can't really blame a guy for not wanting to have his house firebombed by the ADL

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Murodese posted:

Number of firearm-related massacres in Australia since the tightening of gun control laws: 0 (not even counting this one, because one person died to a firearm and the other died of a heart attack)

Number of firearm-related massacres in the US in the same time period: at least a hundred? Two this week? I dunno, they're insane and it's hilarious

Yeah but you fail to include how many firearm-related massacres in the US have been avoided by arming civilians with guns

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

I don't want to get all left-wing conspiracy but I hope the Roberto Curti death inquiry results were already scheduled for today rather than being quietly dropped into a groundswell of support for Our Brave Police

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Speaking of the ADL, are they planning anything that will actually work?

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

If you shoot
you better hit your mark

Murodese posted:

If you read, you'll note that the "more guns would help" crowd have been imported from TFR and are likely US citizens.

e^^: the most hilarious statistic:

Number of firearm-related massacres in Australia since the tightening of gun control laws: 0 (not even counting this one, because one person died to a firearm and the other died of a heart attack)

Number of firearm-related massacres in the US in the same time period: at least a hundred? Two this week? I dunno, they're insane and it's hilarious

That's my exact point, these are hardened no-helping zealots, digging down into a gun control argument is as sane as breathing water. It'll poo poo the thread up for a few days and not even be entertaining.

Jamus
Feb 10, 2007
Sometimes being Australian is pretty embarrassing but the fact that there aren't actually many Australian's smugly making the blind assertion of "more guns would have prevented this" is something to be a little proud of.

Our idiots are too busy talking about the fact that he was a refugee.

Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004

cpaf posted:

Yeah but you fail to include how many firearm-related massacres in the US have been avoided by arming civilians with guns

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Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

Think you've got what it takes?
We're looking for fine Men & Women to help Protect the Australian Way of Life.

Become part of the Legend. Defence Jobs.

cpaf posted:

Yeah but you fail to include how many firearm-related massacres in the US have been avoided by arming civilians with guns

whoa

Chiwie
Oct 21, 2010

DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

cpaf posted:

Sorry that your fetishisation of objects designed exclusively to kill things isn't embraced in our first world democracy :]

Please get off your high horse and be a bit less :smug:

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The gunman in PA apparently started his spree over a custody dispute.

So much for families unconditionally loving each other, amirite? :smug:

Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004

Is it too soon to be analysing this from a marxist point of view?

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Les Affaires posted:

Is it too soon to be analysing this from a marxist point of view?

It's never too soon for marxism, comrade.

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

Endman posted:

I think I preferred our Avshalom/BYOB invasion from last night. Much classier.

Just as a note on the TFR shitposting, it took the police roughly 30 seconds of sustained gunfire to clear the scene, and still one of them ended up shot in the face. But yeah, I'm sure a school principle with a pistol could stop a dude with an automatic rifle no problems.

Yes, shooting armed men who are actually awake is significantly harder.

Too bad it's impossible to shoot a sleeping/unaware man at bad breath range.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Murodese posted:

Number of firearm-related massacres in Australia since the tightening of gun control laws: 0 (not even counting this one, because one person died to a firearm and the other died of a heart attack)

Number of firearm-related massacres in the US in the same time period: at least a hundred? Two this week? I dunno, they're insane and it's hilarious

Actually two died at Monash in '02. But what's that in the US, like, every 18 minutes?

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

Les Affaires posted:

Is it too soon to be analysing this from a marxist point of view?

Rot in heck commie

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Can dog chat come back, from a maoist perspective?

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Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Chiwie posted:

Please get off your high horse and be a bit less :smug:

Yeah nah

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