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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

VLADIMIR GLUTEN posted:

even if its not THE TECHNICALLY SUPERIOR MEDIUM you can learn a lot about composition, chemistry, physics and patience from shooting and developing film

tbf this is roughly the same argument used to defend roll-your-own linux

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jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

A Yolo Wizard posted:

There was not a single photography item located in that dark room. It sounds like from that message chain that its just another place for intoxicated people to hide in noisebridge

https://noisebridge.net/wiki/UNsoundROOM
in meatspace, they're full of hobos
in cyberspace, they're full of bots

https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

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Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

minivanmegafun posted:

wait

so they're upset that the darkroom is ... dark? it's a darkroom, it's supposed to be and has to be in order to develop film.

apparently they're not competent enough to do that

quote:

The darkroom has had a bit of history of being non-functional for most of its life. I think the last time anyone used the room for photo development was about 6 months ago. It has multiple light leaks, lacking in proper chemicals, and also has this inherent problem that the majority of people using it didn't respect the space enough to allow it to be functional for the next person planning to use it. There were a few occasions will people who were active in the darkroom list had a couple rolls of film get destroyed because no one communicated that they botched up the developer mix.

In short Noisebridge isn't mature enough to have a shared resource like the darkroom.

For the last hand full of months the darkroom has been used as storage for the reboot, and apparently also for people to sleep in it, and other people to store personal items in it.

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender
i wonder how long it would take to fill the disk that the wiki sits on by just registering user accounts

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

you can learn a lot about woodworking by making your own wagon wheels, but nobody is gonna choose that for a project

nah film owns

if you shoot bigger than 35mm (like medium or large format) you enter baller status and it's a realm that digital doesn't really try to compete in unless you are dropping insane dollars

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Mido posted:

nah film owns

if you shoot bigger than 35mm (like medium or large format) you enter baller status and it's a realm that digital doesn't really try to compete in unless you are dropping insane dollars

medium or large format is dope and worth it.

lol who the gently caress is going to piss around with 35 in 2014

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

Jonny 290 posted:

medium or large format is dope and worth it.

lol who the gently caress is going to piss around with 35 in 2014

gently caress you jonny!!

- mido, holding his nikon fm

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Mido posted:

nah film owns

if you shoot bigger than 35mm (like medium or large format) you enter baller status and it's a realm that digital doesn't really try to compete in unless you are dropping insane dollars

back when film was still a thing people used in every-day work, medium format was an outrageously expensive oddity

it's still an outrageously expensive oddity, but now it's also one of the last remaining excuses to play with film and develop stuff and make prints in an old-fashioned physical enlarger. film fetishists have adopted the format and made it much more important today than it was 15 years ago

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
in fact the only time i remember seeing non-professional photographers work with medium format was when soviet 120mm cameras got really cheap on ebay

ebay was a really new and wild thing at the time

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

in fact the only time i remember seeing non-professional photographers work with medium format was when soviet 120mm cameras got really cheap on ebay

ebay was a really new and wild thing at the time

Well technically medium format came before 135 because good enlargers weren't a thing so the bigger negatives were a major advantage. E.g. things like those old Kodak vest pocket cameras shot on 6x7 iirc

minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004

i think disc format was my favorite wacky film

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

I've never understood how disc film was designed for economy but they had to cut big circles of material to make it

my family had a disc camera, it might have been that one

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

qirex posted:

I've never understood how disc film was designed for economy but they had to cut big circles of material to make it

my family had a disc camera, it might have been that one

i assume they cut pieces out of a strip of film and glued them to the disc

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

I'm thinking of getting a Pentax 67 some time in the next year or two :allears:

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
110 film, pocket camera and flash cubes ftw

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Mido posted:

I'm thinking of getting a Pentax 67 some time in the next year or two :allears:



These are v cool but you basically need to shoot on a tripod all the time, it's heavy as hell and the shutter release goes off like a cannon

Fax Sender
Aug 11, 2013

kiss my ass

OSI bean dip posted:

i wonder how long it would take to fill the disk that the wiki sits on by just registering user accounts

you are the best kind of bad

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast


atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

VLADIMIR GLUTEN posted:

even if its not THE TECHNICALLY SUPERIOR MEDIUM you can learn a lot about composition, chemistry, physics and patience from shooting and developing film

film is actually the technically superior medium and will be for at least the next decade

Fax Sender
Aug 11, 2013

kiss my ass
atomicthumbs is trying to invoke pagancow

Fax Sender
Aug 11, 2013

kiss my ass
first flooding the pics thread with red pandas and now this? jesus man do you have no moral sense?

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Sagebrush posted:

These are v cool but you basically need to shoot on a tripod all the time, it's heavy as hell and the shutter release goes off like a cannon

lol if u aren't shooting on tripod all the time already.

what, your subjects move? get a medium format rangefinder or something

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

atomicthumbs posted:

film is actually the technically superior medium and will be for at least the next decade

for a given size of image capture medium, digital is technically superior. you can get a digital slr with a 135-size sensor that will resolve 36 actual megapickles given a good enough lens. you can't achieve that resolution with 135 film, except maybe with tech pan or something else that's equally slow (ASA 6 iirc) and out or production.

however if you just want the highest resolution image period yes you can scan an 8x10 negative at hundreds of megapixels before you run into grain limitation.

so go out and buy yourself a view camera

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

film does do better with blown out highlights than digital but digital does better at recovering images from shadows so it's all a wash

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
Or you can meter and expose your photo correctly and enjoy film's superior dynamic range :smug:

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
is this like everyone arguing about analog having better noise tolerance back in the DTV transition days?

like where everyone who argued that was 100% provably wrong?

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

infernal machines posted:

is this like everyone arguing about analog having better noise tolerance back in the DTV transition days?

like where everyone who argued that was 100% provably wrong?

man i get like fuckin 31 DTV subchannels total its awesome

as a radio nerd i fully 100% approve of ATSC

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

Jonny 290 posted:

man i get like fuckin 31 DTV subchannels total its awesome

as a radio nerd i fully 100% approve of ATSC

ATSC is good

i wish they made more poo poo for it, tho.

like, i just know my EyeTV One is going to bite it one of these days and the just don't make them anymore or anything even similar.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Jonny 290 posted:

man i get like fuckin 31 DTV subchannels total its awesome

as a radio nerd i fully 100% approve of ATSC

:agreed:

i get 25 up here, about half from the US. i never really watch broadcast tv, but it's there if i want it.

between cbc, cbs, and fox i can watch most of the regional games too

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

infernal machines posted:

:agreed:

i get 25 up here, about half from the US. i never really watch broadcast tv, but it's there if i want it.

between cbc, cbs, and fox i can watch most of the regional games too

the Create channel owns. once we just sat there and :420:'d while we watched a dude carve a bowl out of a chunk of wood in a lathe. mesmerizing


also theres this old italian lady that makes some dope food and is super chill

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
camerachat is literally the boringest chat possible

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Jonny 290 posted:

man i get like fuckin 31 DTV subchannels total its awesome

as a radio nerd i fully 100% approve of ATSC

im mad my IC-T90A now has an entirely useless TV audio mode

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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atomicthumbs posted:

im mad my IC-T90A now has an entirely useless TV audio mode

in theory it'd still be useful for analog ham tv

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

rotor posted:

camerachat is literally the boringest chat possible

no actually it is steak chat because at least with cameras there are some objective truths

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

is this actually a thing? because that would be rad as hell

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Sagebrush posted:

no actually it is steak chat because at least with cameras there are some objective truths

but steak is delicious

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

i found an old heavy instamatic at my parents house and was sad to learn that its pretty freakin useless. can't get the film OR flash bulbs i think

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

As a Millennial I posted:

i found an old heavy instamatic at my parents house and was sad to learn that its pretty freakin useless. can't get the film OR flash bulbs i think

sell it for $$$$ on eBay to a trust fund hipster who wants it as an accessory

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

rotor posted:

is this actually a thing? because that would be rad as hell

i keep thinking it's slow-scan, but that might be different


atomicthumbs posted:

im mad my IC-T90A now has an entirely useless TV audio mode

i don't know about you lots but up here in the frozen north low-power community stations are still allowed to use analog UHF, the range is usually only a kilometer or so though.

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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
yup it's SSTV

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