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eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Sagebrush posted:

true innovation. icq certainly couldn't have come up with this concept in like 1995

like we weren't doing this kind of thing with zephyr before icq was even "invented"

if your .zwgc.desc didn't incur noticeable delay on a DECstation 3100 you were doing something wrong

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ultramiraculous: Nov 12, 2003; "No..."; Grimey Drawer

Stash Pads: Why New York Real Estate Is the New Swiss Bank Account

quote:

And so New Yorkers with garden-variety affluence�the kind of buyers who require mortgages�are facing disheartening price wars as they compete for scarce inventory with investors who may seldom even turn on a light switch. The Census Bureau estimates that 30 percent of all apartments in the quadrant from 49th to 70th Streets between Fifth and Park are vacant at least ten months a year.

# ? Dec 17, 2014 00:05

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

well maybe they're a place for their executives to entertain while in NYC

who am I kidding...

# ? Dec 17, 2014 00:11

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

ugh i wrote a post but deleted it post because even talking about it makes me ill

# ? Dec 17, 2014 00:23

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012

qirex posted:

I imagine most of those are sold unfinished, the $30 million penthouse in the millenium tower in SF did since they assumed [probably correctly] that whoever bought it would want the whole inside to exactly their specifications

or they don't really give a poo poo because it's their fifteenth pied-a-terre and they plan to use it two weeks a year and only bought it because it's the top floor of the tallest residential building in the world

# ? Dec 17, 2014 00:32

Metrication: Dec 12, 2010; Raskin had one problem: Jobs regarded him as an insufferable theorist or, to use Jobs's own more precise terminology, "a shithead who sucks".

wouldn't sea rises to san francisco bay be mitigated by a large dam? perhaps the bay itself could then be drained and turned into an enormous ball pit

# ? Dec 17, 2014 00:39

havent heard a peep: May 29, 2003; When Steve Jobs died it wasn't the first job I'd lost that week.

keyboard vomit posted:

my city has an ordinance on the books that nothing can be taller than the capitol building

it actually owns and makes being downtown nice and open

i had a bedroom on spring street a joke from camp randall and the price tripled between 2005 and 2012.

# ? Dec 17, 2014 00:39

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Sagebrush posted:

or they don't really give a poo poo because it's their fifteenth pied-a-terre and they plan to use it two weeks a year and only bought it because it's the top floor of the tallest residential building in the world

these people

eat them

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:22

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

they built two 15-story condo buildings here on the waterfront and one of them was so lovely they thought they had to knock it over and the other one has sold six units since opening in 2008 (lol)

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:25

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

FamDav posted:

says the man who lives in a winnebago

lol

Jonny 290 posted:

winnebagos are like the Cadillac 300 of RVs - olds buy them on name recognition, youngs buy them for status because you're paying 2 to 2.5x the actual value of the thing, all for the name. they're nice, but not $42k for a 19 footer nice.

double lol

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:32

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

also unoccupied "investment" units are probably a sign of the upcoming apocalypse and another reminder to never buy a condo

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:33

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

bobbilljim posted:

then taking a 2 hour dump

that's a p long workspank sesh

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:34

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Cold on a Cob posted:

also unoccupied "investment" units are probably a sign of the upcoming apocalypse and another reminder to never buy a condo

i have my dog poo poo around the ones that i see near our place in MV

they're really obvious since the tech nerds who rent here

a) don't buy/live in houses
b) have at least one or two pieces of furniture instead of exactly zero
c) generate garbage

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:37

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

the great thing about condo buildings, as opposed to all the other insane bubble investments: a building remains a capital asset as long as it's habitable.

when uber and klout and yo all go the great pets.com in the sky, nothing of consequence remains. nothing was built. society accrues no value from their past existence.

when a developer throws up a building and it stays 80% vacant for a few years, eventually poo poo gets sold for pennies on the dollar and yuppie condos become middle class apartments. bubbles come and go, buildings have a tendency to stick around

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:40

Maluco Marinero: Jan 18, 2001; Damn that's a
fine elephant.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

i have my dog poo poo around the ones that i see near our place in MV

they're really obvious since the tech nerds who rent here

a) don't buy/live in houses
b) have at least one or two pieces of furniture instead of exactly zero
c) generate garbage

I duck out of the tech bubble thread for a 1000 posts due to forgetting to update my bookmarks to the new thread, and we're still talking about houses?

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:41

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Maluco Marinero posted:

I duck out of the tech bubble thread due to forgetting to update my bookmarks to the new thread, and we're still talking about houses?

the tech bubble and the bizarre things happening in property are tightly linked

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:41

theflyingexecutive: Apr 22, 2007

agagagahghahaga why are holding companies for personal wealth legal I'm so mad about this always

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:42

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Maluco Marinero posted:

I duck out of the tech bubble thread for a 1000 posts due to forgetting to update my bookmarks to the new thread, and we're still talking about houses?

yes the most expensive property in the entire country will probably get brought up a few times in the tech bubble thread

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:43

qirex: Feb 15, 2001

theflyingexecutive posted:

agagagahghahaga why are holding companies for personal wealth legal I'm so mad about this always

why do you hate job creators

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:44

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

the great thing about condo buildings, as opposed to all the other insane bubble investments: a building remains a capital asset as long as it's habitable.

when uber and klout and yo all go the great pets.com in the sky, nothing of consequence remains. nothing was built. society accrues no value from their past existence.

when a developer throws up a building and it stays 80% vacant for a few years, eventually poo poo gets sold for pennies on the dollar and yuppie condos become middle class apartments. bubbles come and go, buildings have a tendency to stick around

well except for the part where the condos are 450 to maaaaybe 900 sq. ft. the only middle class gonna buy/rent those is DINKs.

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:44

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

infernal machines posted:

well except for the part where the condos are 450 to maaaaybe 900 sq. ft. the only middle class gonna buy/rent those is DINKs.

don't forget permanently single tech nerds

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:46

Beast of Bourbon: Sep 25, 2013; Pillbug

our landlord, a reasonable man by all other standards, said we could buy the 505 sqft apartment we're renting for a cool $400,000 if we wanted.

# ? Dec 17, 2014 01:49

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

infernal machines posted:

well except for the part where the condos are 450 to maaaaybe 900 sq. ft. the only middle class gonna buy/rent those is DINKs.

when they were expensive, they were inhabited by DINKs

when they fall into the middle class, all of a sudden you have regular families living in them. yes, families with children. and often only one parent. you know, regular americans.

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:01

Fabricated: Apr 9, 2007; Living the Dream

kill the rich

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:07

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

when they were expensive, they were inhabited by DINKs

when they fall into the middle class, all of a sudden you have regular families living in them. yes, families with children. and often only one parent. you know, regular americans.

i can only imagine two kid+ families living in the 1 bedroom + "den"* condos we've been building here for the last five years

* den is actually a not especially large walk in closet.

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:10

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

infernal machines posted:

i can only imagine two kid+ families living in the 1 bedroom + "den"* condos we've been building here for the last five years

* den is actually a not especially large walk in closet.

you do not want to imagine it, but that's life for regular people

(or did you think property values could double and double again while wages stagnated for forty years and no one would notice?)

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:13

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

the great thing about condo buildings, as opposed to all the other insane bubble investments: a building remains a capital asset as long as it's habitable.

let me tell you about condos in toronto hint: they don't build them very well and some are barely habitable

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:14

Beast of Bourbon: Sep 25, 2013; Pillbug

i sure hope that nobody ever lives in this place 2 adults + 2 kids + pets

literally my apartment

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:14

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

Beast of Bourbon posted:

i sure hope that nobody ever lives in this place 2 adults + 2 kids + pets

literally my apartment

i'm the countertop waifu unit

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:15

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

you do not want to imagine it, but that's life for regular people

(or did you think property values could double and double again while wages stagnated for forty years and no one would notice?)

i know plenty of regular people around here. the fun is, they manage to live less cramped than that now because the neigbourhood is old purpose built rental buildings. back in the heady days of the 50s, 60s, and 70s when they used to build crazy things like two and three bedroom apartments.

so far the only idiots cramming themselves into the sub 600sq. ft. condos are DINKs

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:18

Misandrist Duck: Oct 22, 2012

Gawker musta got spooked. Expect A Gentler Valleywag In 2015

quote:

�If I had my druthers, I�d write about AI, and supercomputers, and fusion energy. I don�t really care about who�s loving whom,� new Valleywag editor Dan Lyons tells me, signaling a tone shift for the tech tabloid. �Even when I did the fake Steve stuff, I had a rule that I never wanted to write about Steve�s family or his wife. It was just about the workplace.�

That could be a shock to people who liked the unapologetic snark of the old �wag. Lyons seems interested in a gentler voice. �I�ve had a couple [stories] at Daily Beast and Newsweek where I thought, �Should I write this story or should I not? It�s going to piss people off, and people I don�t want to piss off.��

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:19

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Cold on a Cob posted:

let me tell you about condos in toronto hint: they don't build them very well and some are barely habitable

it's be great when the glasswall is giving out all at once in 10 years tops on pretty much every building built in the last five years

cityplace is going to look post-apocalyptic

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:19

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

infernal machines posted:

cityplace is going to look post-apocalyptic

apparently some of the units already do on the inside lol

toronto learned exactly nothing from the vancouver condo crisis and subsequent rules they put into place, it's sad and hosed up

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:21

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012

when i was a kid we had some family friends in nyc who lived in a 1br. they had a living room, a kitchen, the bedroom, and a bathroom. the dad and the son slept on separate beds in the bedroom, which was basically just the kid's room except at night, and the mom slept on a pull out couch in the living room.

to answer the immediate question, i have no idea

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:24

fits my needs: Jan 1, 2011; Grimey Drawer

you shoulda asked why his dad wasn't a doctor so he didn't have to have his family live in a shithole lol

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:26

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Beast of Bourbon posted:

i sure hope that nobody ever lives in this place 2 adults + 2 kids + pets

literally my apartment

pets are a luxury out of the reach of the proletariat

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:27

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Sagebrush posted:

when i was a kid we had some family friends in nyc who lived in a 1br. they had a living room, a kitchen, the bedroom, and a bathroom. the dad and the son slept on separate beds in the bedroom, which was basically just the kid's room except at night, and the mom slept on a pull out couch in the living room.

to answer the immediate question, i have no idea

that's quite luxurious.

new york legal code about housing poo poo posted:

(1) Every person occupying an apartment in a Class A or Class B multiple dwelling or in a tenant-occupied apartment in a one- or two-family dwelling shall have a liveable area of not less than 80 square feet. The maximum number of persons who may occupy any such apartment shall be determined by dividing the total liveable floor area of the apartment by 80 square feet. For every two persons who may lawfully occupy an apartment, one child under four may also reside therein, except that a child under four is permitted in an apartment lawfully occupied by one person. No residual floor area of less than 80 square feet shall be counted in determining the maximum permitted occupancy for such apartment. The floor area of a kitchen or kitchenette shall be included in measuring the total liveable floor area of an apartment but the floor area for private halls foyers, bathrooms or[ water closets shall be excluded.

emphasis mine

# ? Dec 17, 2014 02:37

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?