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Cena does better business than anyone else though? I mean yeah there's reasons for that that aren't "Cena is great" but there's absolutely a logic to why they keep pushing him as the top guy, even if it is flawed. I don't at all believe that his continued super push has anything more to it than that.
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Who else besides Cena have they legitimately tried to push as the "top guy"? The only one I can think of is Randy Orton, and he never drove business the way Cena did. Although that might be because a lot of his time on top was spent as a heel, I don't know if he ever had a legitimate #1 guy face push. I seem to remember most of his time as face being on Smackdown
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Spermgod posted:Cena does better business than anyone else though? I mean yeah there's reasons for that that aren't "Cena is great" but there's absolutely a logic to why they keep pushing him as the top guy, even if it is flawed. I don't at all believe that his continued super push has anything more to it than that. He does the best business because he's always at the top and he's on top because he does the best business, but you see people like Punk encroach on him when they're given a little bit of time/attention too. Makes you think that if they gave a few people some time and attention that they might have a few people who can move the needle on business, which is nice when Cena needs time off or when they feel like making some more money.
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DrVenkman posted:I don't know, I mean yes in a lot of ways, but he also seems to have a hard time seeing why people are fed up of seeing Cena on top. Even in light of the CM Punk stuff he mentions that no one came close to Cena when we know full well that's not true. Yes Cena is on top for business reasons, but he's also there because he's clearly the only guy they want there until he physically can't anymore. If they fix the rest of their booking problems Cena being on top business wise doesn't really matter. Cena being Cena is fine, I'm not a bit fan of it(but I have to respect it). Honestly I liked the idea behind the Cena/Wyatt feud(Execution was godawful). And Cena only became champion again because Bryan got hurt(Otherwise it was probably Bryan getting fed to Brock, which would have been an amazing two matches), as well as Bryan probably leading the Anti-Authority team at SS.
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DrVenkman posted:I don't know, I mean yes in a lot of ways, but he also seems to have a hard time seeing why people are fed up of seeing Cena on top. Even in light of the CM Punk stuff he mentions that no one came close to Cena when we know full well that's not true. Yes Cena is on top for business reasons, but he's also there because he's clearly the only guy they want there until he physically can't anymore. Even so, I think Steve recognizes they need a plan B, which is more than you can say for the way things are being done now.
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Listening to the Austin stuff, I'm surprised Dave didn't bring up stuff about the company not making enough stars as big or near John Cena in regards to Cena always willing.
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It's a shame that Austin has no interest in booking/writing because it seems like he'd be pretty good at it.
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Imagine being the teenager who had to help Steve Austin stop a deer killing itself. How would you tell that story in a way that would make anyone believe you.
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Dave got exposed by thinking the first monitor attempt was a technical glitch. Clearly drawing the audience's attention to the fact that the monitor was powered and increased the tension+focus for the second attempt.
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epitasis posted:Dave got exposed by thinking the first monitor attempt was a technical glitch. Clearly drawing the audience's attention to the fact that the monitor was powered and increased the tension+focus for the second attempt. Well, the other option is that WWE intentionally made Ambrose look like the stupidest man alive.
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DeathChicken posted:I'm guessing the idea was that he's crazy enough to not think these things through, but there are ways to do that without making the person look like a moron. See Sabu.
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OctoberCountry posted:How long have those been sitting in unopened boxes somewhere in Bryan Alvarez's house? CafePress is a Print on Demand site. It doesn't exist until you buy it.
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elf help book posted:CafePress is a Print on Demand site. It doesn't exist until you buy it. That's very disappointing.
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Bryan and Vinny's back to back review of TLC and REvolution is great. One is just so completely loathed and the other is absolutely amazing.
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I love AJ pointing out that neither Dave nor Bryan asked him about the Styles Clash injuries. Hilarious.
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I love that Dave's idea of a super famous baseball manager is Walter Alston.
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triplexpac posted:I love AJ pointing out that neither Dave nor Bryan asked him about the Styles Clash injuries. Hilarious. Dave brought that up on twitter right as the interview was published. quote:
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So, interrupting Dave this week we've had Austin scratching his beard, his cat on the lapsed fan, pop up video playing on his computer and of course his smoke detector.
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Liar Lyre posted:Bryan and Vinny's back to back review of TLC and REvolution is great. One is just so completely loathed and the other is absolutely amazing. God, yes. Listened to this at work and it made me stoked as hell to watch REvolution again tonight.
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Cardboard Box posted:every year him and vinny say no drinking and every year they cave in They are weak beta males.
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still waiting for the year that they call dave drunk.
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NotQuiteQuentin posted:still waiting for the year that they call dave drunk.
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I'm behind on my Observers and as I finish up last week's I saw this quote quote:WWE has applied for trademarks for the following terms, “AWA American Wrestling Association,” “Beyond the Ring,” “Crush Couture” (sounds like a new name for a wrestler or a movie character), “Crush Wear” (seemingly this new wrestler they have heavy merchandising hopes for), “NXT,” “Skull King,” MizDow,” “Total Divas” and “Shelton Benjamin." Dave clearly doesn't know what Couture is. I'm so excited to see WWE's attempt at a couture line.
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MassRafTer posted:I'm behind on my Observers and as I finish up last week's I saw this quote Uh obviously they are bringing back the Crush gimmick and he's also an MMA fighter like Randy Couture.
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Endorph posted:SKULL KING the VGCW trademark war has begun, I expect they'll be grabbing Deer Lord, Mr. Target and Miss Dim soon.
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Cardboard Box posted:can they really trademark shelton benjamin's real name They have Cena's.
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Daniel Bryan posted:They have Cena's. Along with his likeness, ring wear, haircut, and DNA.
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Does John Cena write "John Cena™" on all his checks/legal forms?
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no, don't be dumb it would be John Cena® because its a registered trademark
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Further proof that John Cena is a crazy person that needs medical help.
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