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MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Stultus Maximus posted:

I like how it's more permissible to vacation in North Korea than Cuba.

Vietnam has some nice tourist packages these days.

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Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


psydude posted:

Speaking of which, does being stationed in Guantanamo get boring as gently caress? The area outside the base is only a few square miles, right?

Prior active/older people loved mobilizing to Cuba as it was a vacation, non-prior/junior people were annoyed it wasn't a "real MOB". Fishing, scuba diving, and cooking out and drinking on the beach sound pretty great to me.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Reestablishing our relationship with Cuba would probably hasten chucking the Castro regime into the garbage.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Casimir Radon posted:

Reestablishing our relationship with Cuba would probably hasten chucking the Castro regime into the garbage.

Plus the infusion of US capital will basically allow us to make it a client state.

Florida Cuban reaction will be hilarious to watch though.

Courthouse
Jul 23, 2013

Analogical posted:

Out of all the world leaders not to push, I rank Putin very highly at the top of that list. Actually he's the only person on that list. There's a few other people who would retaliate but have no means to. I'm not saying Russia is armed to the teeth given most of their gear is from the Cold War, but they're armed enough to make it uncomfortable for us, and especially uncomfortable (re: fiery) for eastern Europe. Especially seeing as we don't know the full capability of Russian cyber forces, which is their biggest asset and they've known that.

[...]

[Obama] needs to throw the hammer and sickle back onto the Kremlin and cut the charade. Opening the last military parade with the soviet anthem was thinly veiled enough. He's been itching to do it for 20 years and honestly let's just start this loving war already and move on with what will be left of our lives and probably moderately radiated land.

Russia can't do jack poo poo so long as the overlapping EU/NATO block exists. He might hope some economical/political calamity could split 'em apart, but that remains a jingoist wet dream. In reality Russia can't even fully dominate lesser peripheral nations like Georgia or Ukraine without the full commitment of it's armed forces. Which it is too scared to commit, because it might finally prod the westerners into some form of action. And for all the bluster and chest beating over Russian power and western weakness, I think that is the most telling appraisal of Russian military might. They are worried over the loving continental Europeans responding.

That's not to say Russia cannot still do something incredibly dumb that would have bad consequences. Like say driving on Kiev, for realsies this time. He just can't do much of anything to anyone outside the old soviet sphere. As for the hackers, I don't imagine the Russian infrastructure or economy is terribly well protected against hacking. Or us giving the Chechens a bunch of last gen drones to play with for that matter.


I don't know what you want Obama to do. Seems to me letting the Russian economy be another collateral to the oil war between OPEC and the frackers while maintaining some sanctions for looks is working just fine.




psydude posted:

Welp, the US and Cuba are in talks right now to re-establish diplomatic relations and reopen embassies.


No, goddamnit! Cuba was such a sweet place to visit. Now it'll get overrun by loving american tourists and turned into a floridan 1950s themepark. :negative:

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Courthouse posted:

No, goddamnit! Cuba was such a sweet place to visit. Now it'll get overrun by loving american tourists and turned into a floridan 1950s themepark. :negative:

Shut up.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Genocide Tendency posted:

Jeb Bush would be a not terrible choice for president.

He wouldn't change much. Wouldn't get anything of real importance done. And he won't appoint anyone of note.

Basically it would be 4-8 years of "I think something happened??".

That's what George W was sold as too. Gather round, and hear the tales of the 2000 election. The world was peaceful. The democrat was boring and a little corrupt. The republican was compassionate and super moderate. What's the worst that can happen?

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
I like Cohibas a lot and their food is good. It is in the Carribean. Let's make Cuba a state and embargo/kick out Florida

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

maffew buildings posted:

Let's make Cuba a state and kick out Florida

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

maffew buildings posted:

Let's make Cuba a state and embargo/kick out Florida

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D
Wait til I move in a couple weeks I don't have an up to date passport tia

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
That embargo with cuba needs to end as soon as possible. Cuban rum is the poo poo.

Fuckin' ridiculous that when I was in Seattle I had to go to Canada to get fuckin' cuban rum.

Viva fidel, motherfuckers, let's get some havana club up in this bitch.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

lol of course loving Marco Rubio is complaining about it.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Cool that there is a segment of people that believe the people of Cuba, most of whom weren't alive when this poo poo all started, should be systematically hosed over because "reasons"

I guess if those Cubans didn't want to suffer from the embargo they should've had the good sense to be born to a family whose patriarchs left before it went down :smug: Also, gently caress Marco Rubio

maffew buildings fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Dec 17, 2014

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D

maffew buildings posted:

Cool that there is a segment of people that believe the people of Cuba, most of whom weren't alive when this poo poo all started, should be systematically hosed over because "reasons"

I believe in fairness and that we should systematically gently caress over everyone for no reasons.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Helldump Immunity.
Aug 2, 2013

Fuck you

EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004

CHILD RAPE IS FINE WHEN I LIKE THE RAPIST

MRC48B posted:

Vietnam has some nice tourist packages these days.

Cambodia has a place where you can RPG a cow.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Brb, gonna move there and do that then employ the locals in my factory making artisan cookware called "Pols Pots"

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
I'm lookin at heading to Vietnam over New Years. It's like Thailand but cheaper and less crowded apparently.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

lightpole posted:

I'm lookin at heading to Vietnam over New Years. It's like Thailand but cheaper and less crowded apparently.

Also more politically stable.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Post coup and natural disaster are the best times to visit due to the tourism dropoff.

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Which is why Somalia is the secret goldmine of holiday destinations.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
I don't think Cubans and their descendants in the Tampa Bay area ever cared all that much about the embargo, they mostly came here long before the revolution. Lots of Cuban families in the area have been here since the late 1800's/early 1900's and most don't even speak Spanish anymore.

It's the Miami Cubans that have the hate boner for the Castro's

RonMexicosPitbull
Feb 28, 2012

by Ralp

MRC48B posted:

Which is why Somalia is the secret goldmine of holiday destinations.

Sudan has calmed down quite a bit theres some serious deals to be had touring Darfur

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Oh god baseball is gonna get CRAZY now

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

RonMexicosPitbull posted:

Sudan has calmed down quite a bit theres some serious deals to be had touring Darfur

Doctors Without Borders is offering paid 9 month vacations there. Djibouti is a great place to spend some time and meet some Nubian princesses. Friends on the Alabama say parts of Africa are actually a lot of fun, even if you do run the risk of being kidnapped and maybe catch a little HIV.

The old guard Cuban expats were very anti Castro but the younger generation doesn't see it as a big deal. The dynamics have changed a lot. Furthermore, we maintain semi normal relations with Venezuela and even more normal relations with China. I'm not really sure what the point of the embargo is anymore.

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

FAT SLAMPIG posted:

Oh god baseball is gonna get CRAZY now

Move the Indians there, and change the logo, two birds one stone.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


psydude posted:

lol of course loving Marco Rubio is complaining about it.
Rubio is too stupid to realize that this is the best way to change poo poo in Cuba. Because obviously what we've been doing for 50 years has been working so well.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

Casimir Radon posted:

Rubio is stupid

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

lightpole posted:

Doctors Without Borders is offering paid 9 month vacations there. Djibouti is a great place to spend some time and meet some Nubian princesses. Friends on the Alabama say parts of Africa are actually a lot of fun, even if you do run the risk of being kidnapped and maybe catch a little HIV.

lol, this is true but loving Djibouti is not one of those places.

Force de Fappe
Nov 7, 2008

psydude posted:

Would visit Havana and gently caress the poo poo out of every single peachy-assed sweaty quarter african supermodel chick.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

ManMythLegend posted:

lol, this is true but loving Djibouti is not one of those places.

No I personally love Djibouti. It's quite the shithole but things could always be a lot worse. I haven't had the opportunity to make it to some of the real treasures down the east coast.

The Alabama runs a triangle hitting the stuff in the south on the east coast. I try to avoid it since it stays in the heat and never leaves.

lightpole fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Dec 18, 2014

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





once again the war criminals show they have the best grasp on reality

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
You couldn't pay me enough to vacation in Somalia. Getting there would be a nightmare.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
You act like Marco Rubio is going to do anything that isn't going to score him points with Republican primary voters.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I've read that a big part of the "gently caress Cuba" torch is borne by Cuban ex-pats and honestly that just seems kind of petty and spiteful no matter how much they hate Castro

Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Dec 18, 2014

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Sony pussed out on releasing The Interview.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Like it's pretty obvious that the best attack against an evil diplomacy is a massive influx of iPhones and American porn so maybe they should just suck it up and decide to let American tourists travel there and drink mojitos

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ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

lightpole posted:

No I personally love Djibouti. It's quite the shithole but things could always be a lot worse. I haven't had the opportunity to make it to some of the real treasures down the east coast.

The Alabama runs a triangle hitting the stuff in the south on the east coast. I try to avoid it since it stays in the heat and never leaves.

Yeah, I know the ALABAMA's AOR, but the only thing Djibouti has going for it over other ports in the area is the high prevelance of HIV if you're a bug chaser.

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