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300 million is not an unusual budget for a summer blockbuster with A list actors, tons of worldwide marketing and special effects.
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echronorian posted:I'm not a technical person but I can't for the life of me understand how something like this even happens without anyone knowing who did it. That is intense. Speaking of which are there any sites that are tracking the status of the investigation or is it all pretty hush hush?
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Dec 18, 2014 00:19
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http://www.tmz.com/2014/12/17/sony-hack-inside-job-north-korea-investigation/ Having it be "ex-employees with a grudge" seems fairly possible. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-carells-north-korea-comedy-758901  You don't say!
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Dec 18, 2014 00:19
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Enderzero posted:"The rich are just different from us." Noted. I was arguing that maybe the obsession with status isn't a productive thing and is not, in fact, a real problem.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:20
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i hate to be all  but I can't help but feel that poo poo like this and the celebrity nude photo leaks are going to be used to justify cracking down on the Internet and making it a much more controlled environment like tv or radio. And hey, the emails have already revealed the studios would be overjoyed with that kind of change.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:20
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bowser posted:i hate to be all
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Dec 18, 2014 00:29
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AP: US Official says federal investigators connect Sony hacking to NK.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:31
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bowser posted:i hate to be all They don't need to justify anything, the republicans are already trying to hand over the reins of the internet to THE FREE MARKET and the ISPs will block any poo poo their shareholders don't like and throttle your speeds on any sites that don't throw them barrels of cash. Net neutrality ending is more a matter of when than if at this point.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:33
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Jose Oquendo posted:AP: US Official says federal investigators connect Sony hacking to NK.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:34
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FlamingLiberal posted:I've never understood why people think it wasn't them, when they had already made threats about 'war' over the film months ago. They've been planning this for awhile. North Korea threatens war when they don't get Froot Loops for breakfast. The line of thinking for most people (until about the past hour when at least someone investigating the hack said it seemed likely) was 1) Sony is releasing a movie about North Korea, 2) NK is crazy, ergo 3) North Korea totally did it. That's a line of reasoning that needs a few more steps to make it feasible.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:46
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FlamingLiberal posted:I've never understood why people think it wasn't them, when they had already made threats about 'war' over the film months ago. They've been planning this for awhile. We have an understand of the DPRK as a backwards hell-hole where they can barely turn on the lights. The idea of them having a crack team of computer hackers who aren't hilariously inept does, admittedly, sound extremely far fetched.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:48
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FlamingLiberal posted:I've never understood why people think it wasn't them, when they had already made threats about 'war' over the film months ago. They've been planning this for awhile. I was holding out hope that a country wouldn't go out of their way to hack a movie studio, but I guess these are the times we live in. Plus the threat that was released seemed very much like something a mid-twenties rear end in a top hat from 4chan or Anonymous would say
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Dec 18, 2014 00:48
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North Korea actually tried to get Team America banned in the Czech Republic, but failed. They never commented publicly on the movie at all. I guess Kim Jong Un was just willing to take the fight public in a way that his father wasn't.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:51
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Full Battle Rattle posted:We have an understand of the DPRK as a backwards hell-hole where they can barely turn on the lights. The idea of them having a crack team of computer hackers who aren't hilariously inept does, admittedly, sound extremely far fetched.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:51
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Bitter ex employees sounds more reasonable, but why would Sony tell theaters to not show it after that 911 style threat unless the fbi is telling them something else?
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Dec 18, 2014 00:51
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echronorian posted:Bitter ex employees sounds more reasonable, but why would Sony tell theaters to not show it after that 911 style threat unless the fbi is telling them something else? The theatres decided not to show it themselves, then Sony pulled the plug on the release since the top 5 theatre chains had all dropped out. The theatres probably know nothing about the threat's credibility but decided it's not worth the risk to their consciences/bottom lines.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:55
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Eggnogium posted:The theatres decided not to show it themselves, then Sony pulled the plug on the release since the top 5 theatre chains had all dropped out. The theatres probably know nothing about the threat's credibility but decided it's not worth the risk to their consciences/bottom lines.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:57
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North Korea would typically brag about doing something like this, so the fact that they denied it outright was somewhat strange if they are involved.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:57
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Sony having leadership issues in a crisis isn't too surprising for some reason...
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Dec 18, 2014 00:58
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empty baggie posted:North Korea would typically brag about doing something like this, so the fact that they denied it outright was somewhat strange if they are involved. I think it's because the plausible deniability in this case is the only thing standing between the current situation and the "US punishing NK" situation.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:59
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Full Battle Rattle posted:We have an understand of the DPRK as a backwards hell-hole where they can barely turn on the lights. The idea of them having a crack team of computer hackers who aren't hilariously inept does, admittedly, sound extremely far fetched. Not that much more than the idea that a supposedly cutting-edge consumer electronics and digital entertainment company run from Jetsons-land repeatedly can't wrap its head around the most basic of computer security. Anyway, they haven't ruled out that the hack itself was out-sourced.
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Dec 18, 2014 01:01
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FlamingLiberal posted:After the Aurora thing they're not taking chances. That might have influenced Carmike's decision but once they pulled out it was a done deal that the rest would. All the chains know about the threat and if only some pull out and there is an attack, that's an even bigger disaster for the ones that didn't.
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Dec 18, 2014 01:03
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Jst0rm posted:Kind of a funny view for a goon. I know cinedisco is "super serious place" but a lot of this place is a mad house. Imagine those goons every thought written here being attributed to their full name and being posted for all to see - irl friends, employers, academic peers, family. People say things they shouldnt because its edgy. Haha look at you! You're so precious 
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Dec 18, 2014 01:09
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North Korea will be the new Scientology--major outlets are going to be terrified to publish anything negative about them in fear of retaliation. How long until the movie leaks, or has it already? Surely screeners, etc, have already been sent out?
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Dec 18, 2014 01:12
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Kim Jong Un's death scene was leaked. So hopefully the rest of the movie will be too.
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Dec 18, 2014 01:15
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Sony should just put it out digitally in some way. There is no way this doesn't leak now anyway.
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Dec 18, 2014 01:16
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It's gonna turn out that Google approached North Korean to do the hack pro bono after sussing out Project Goliath, isn't it?
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Dec 18, 2014 01:21
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ultramiraculous posted:The part where Kim Jong Ill actually gets murdered wasn't in the trailer, nor was his role in the movie really emphasized. It's not quite a fair comparison given that The Interview's entire premise is murdering Kim Jong Un. Also, the real problem with Team America is that Parker and Stone were more interested in butchering Hollywood elites than saying anything about Kim Jong Il and the War On Terror.
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Dec 18, 2014 01:29
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http://www.slashfilm.com/the-interview-pulled/ Update #3: Sony has now officially confirmed they have “no further release plans” for the film while American Intelligence has officially linked North Korea to the Sony hack.
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Dec 18, 2014 01:42
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I wasn't planning on seeing it because I think Seth Rogen is fat, stupid, and unfunny. Now however I feel it's my patriotic duty.
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Dec 18, 2014 01:51
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The REAL Goobusters posted:http://www.slashfilm.com/the-interview-pulled/ Sounds like poo poo just got real! I'm thinking all this crazy stuff would make a great movie.
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Dec 18, 2014 01:52
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Young Freud posted:Also, the real problem with Team America is that Parker and Stone were more interested in butchering Hollywood elites than saying anything about Kim Jong Il and the War On Terror. Yeah, the real problem with that movie is that it didn't date itself by being about the politics of the early 2000s. 
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Dec 18, 2014 01:53
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Full Battle Rattle posted:We have an understand of the DPRK as a backwards hell-hole where they can barely turn on the lights. The idea of them having a crack team of computer hackers who aren't hilariously inept does, admittedly, sound extremely far fetched. They built an atomic bomb, which puts them ahead of Iran and noted cyberwarriors Syria. Someone should do a movie about the kind of electronic warfare that is happening around the world today. I think it's interesting that we've moved into an era of cyberwarfare and laser weapons, but science fiction is still the same. That movie would have a scene where the team of brilliant hackers haven't found a way around a site's firewall, so they send IT an email that says "Hi, this is the VP finance, I forgot my password" and it works.
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Casimir Radon posted:I wasn't planning on seeing it because I think Seth Rogen is fat, stupid, and unfunny. Now however I feel it's my patriotic duty. This guy right here knows what's up. Come on Sony. Let me see this movie. Please let it "accidentally" leak.
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Dec 18, 2014 01:56
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Can you imagine the studio and theaters pulling this film if it was some major blockbuster? Somehow the potential risks of a terrorist attack would have been justified, I imagine.
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Dec 18, 2014 01:59
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Irish Joe posted:Yeah, the real problem with that movie is that it didn't date itself by being about the politics of the early 2000s. As opposed to dating itself even more by being about killing celebrities from the early 2000s?
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Dec 18, 2014 02:00
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Len posted:This guy right here knows what's up. Come on Sony. Let me see this movie. Please let it "accidentally" leak. The assassination scene leaked at least. A really graphic, slow motion depiction of Un's clothes and hair burning up before he himself is completely blown apart as his helicopter is hit by bad CG shell. And he looks nothing like Un. Vegetable posted:Can you imagine the studio and theaters pulling this film if it was some major blockbuster? Somehow the potential risks of a terrorist attack would have been justified, I imagine. Star Wars. Nations will go to war to screen Star Wars.
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Dec 18, 2014 02:03
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Hodgepodge posted:As opposed to dating itself even more by being about killing celebrities from the early 2000s? Hollywood arrogance and American exceptionalism are timeless subjects even if the references are a tad dated. Also, Alec Baldwin, Sean Penn, Tim Robbins, George Clooney, Martin Sheen, Susan Sarandon, Matt Damon, Samuel L. Jackson and Danny Glover are still fairly relevant today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M
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Dec 18, 2014 02:05
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Szmitten posted:The assassination scene leaked at least. A really graphic, slow motion depiction of Un's clothes and hair burning up before he himself is completely blown apart as his helicopter is hit by bad CG shell.
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I hope they do vod, it would kind of be exciting in a "future of distribution experiment" sort of way snd would give me and my friends s good excuse to get drunk while watching a first run movie.
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