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Zeitgueist posted:OF Kanye or BY Kanye? Hadn't heard of it. I've heard people say it was a biopic but looking into it the actual leaked emails don't say that directly: quote:I supervise all of Kanye’s film and media projects, and we have a major film project coming up that involves both cinematic and technological innovation, so I naturally thought Sony and wanted to reach out... The Cannes thing was an abstract short film thing projected on seven screens with Kanye earnestly explaining it to a bunch of film journos afterwards. sign me up for that.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Yeah, human rights abuses in Cuba are bad. Right now, the Cubans are desperate. They're so desperate that they're willing to allow the Americans in, knowing full drat well that we'll make them a democracy with human rights whether they want to become one or not. jesus christ
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Was I alone in hoping that the President would go full troll during his address and lead the press corps in a rousing rendition of "Guantanamera"?
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Zeitgueist posted:Like I all I gotta do is post something that compares the lovely state of Cuba with the lovely state of the USA and I will guaranteed see your avatar. Yeah, and I see that despite the extensive clarification regarding the reference to a specific tradition of Latin American authoritarian politics, you're taking that as a distinction of magnitude. Also shocker I'm posting in a Cuba thread on the day of the biggest political development in decades. The fact that we're relitigating the 60s is a problem in and of itself when I posted a pretty extensive HRW report. I get that some people don't trust HRW but you know it's odd. The Warszawa fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:Was I alone in hoping that the President would go full troll during his address and lead the press corps in a rousing rendition of "Guantanamera"? Should've had Biden come out and stand behind him smoking a cigar during the speech.
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Zeitgueist posted:Like, you literally said Castro was only superficially different from Pinochet or Trujillo, and I think that's a bit over the top. You can say that Castro was a dictator and an rear end in a top hat and abused people and all sorts of stuff but realize that he's still not on the level of awful that those two were, and he's had twice as long to do it. Which is why you should compare the first half of his dictatorship to those figures, which will show you he's just another power-mad dictator, only with a populist bent towards the left rather a populist bent towards the right. No difference between Castro and Pinochet and Mobutu, and if you think different, you've never really thought about how the world works seriously enough to look past your personal ideological framework. Joementum posted:Should've had Biden come out and stand behind him smoking a cigar during the speech. Tomorrow's headline: Biden found in Havana casino, urged to walk away from 72-hour losing streak after Obama phoned to raise credit line "Just one more roll," Vice President Biden was heard squeaking from the craps table, inbetween huffs from his two cigars and sips from his ashen rum glass. "Daddy feels a 6." My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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The Warszawa posted:Yeah, and I see that despite the extensive clarification regarding the reference to a specific tradition of Latin American authoritarian politics, you're taking that as a distinction of magnitude. Yes I read your clarification, but it amounts to "he's a Latin American dictator" which says nothing and using two guys known for brutal atrocities and then saying "naw didn't mean that just meant his management style" after the fact just sounds like you're walking it back.
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Zeitgueist posted:Yes I read your clarification, but it amounts to "he's a Latin American dictator" which says nothing and using two guys known for brutal atrocities and then saying "naw didn't mean that just meant his management style" after the fact just sounds like you're walking it back. ok well that's your call but it's way more than "is a Latin American dictator" if you actually read my follow ups, it's about political style, economic agendas, and populist incorporation for adjunct enforcement. truthfully I had plum forgotten Trujillo's genocide because who can keep track of atrocities in Latin America anymore which is why in my original post I set Pinochet aside. for your benefit: castro did not construct a murderdome and did not launch a genocide, but I believe he is part of the caudillo tradition The Warszawa fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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Joementum posted:Should've had Biden come out and stand behind him smoking a cigar during the speech. Onion should have a hell of a Diamond Joe article tomorrow.
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Pinochet intentionally executed and tortured thousands of civilian opposition which Fidel never really did. The political executions almost solely targeted Batista regime and military figures, or counterrevolutionaries actively fighting the government.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Which is why you should compare the first half of his dictatorship to those figures, which will show you he's just another power-mad dictator, only with a populist bent towards the left rather a populist bent towards the right. No difference between Castro and Pinochet and Mobutu, and if you think different, you've never really thought about how the world works seriously enough to look past your personal ideological framework.
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The Warszawa posted:ok well that's your call but it's way more than "is a Latin American dictator" if you actually read my follow ups, it's about political style, economic agendas, and populist incorporation for adjunct enforcement. I feel you The Warszawa, I think you bring up pertinent points and your opposition is leftist ideologies dismayed that the world is poo poo and this symbol of opposition in their mind is just as poo poo as the rest of the world, if not horridly worse in plenty of aspects. Remember, while America may torture, we do it on Cuban soil. Sheng-ji Yang posted:Pinochet intentionally executed and tortured thousands of civilian opposition which Fidel never really did. The political executions almost solely targeted Batista regime and military figures, or counterrevolutionaries actively fighting the government. Whats the difference? Both dictators targeted the opposition whose elimination was necessary for their consolidation on power. If anything, I'd argue Pinochet was more efficient because the outcome of his power consolidation was political and institutional development under an appropriately American framework. My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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The Warszawa posted:ok well that's your call but it's way more than "is a Latin American dictator" if you actually read my follow ups, it's about political style, economic agendas, and populist incorporation for adjunct enforcement.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Which is why you should compare the first half of his dictatorship to those figures, which will show you he's just another power-mad dictator, only with a populist bent towards the left rather a populist bent towards the right. No difference between Castro and Pinochet and Mobutu, and if you think different, you've never really thought about how the world works seriously enough to look past your personal ideological framework. Look, I know being an idiot is your thing and all, but even for you this is loving stupid.
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R. Mute posted:hmm friend i read your follow up posts and considering someone then applied your standards to north korea i don't think you explained yourself enough again I'm not as familiar with the Kim rise to power but I did address that my understanding is that where he differs is the reliance on popular adjunct groups and the perpetuation/utilization of colonial racial heuristics.
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The Warszawa posted:for your benefit: castro did not construct a murderdome and did not launch a genocide, but I believe he is part of the caudillo tradition Yeah but the murderdome is probably the biggest thing people remember about Pinochet so it's a hugely loaded comparison.
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The Warszawa posted:again I'm not as familiar with the Kim rise to power but I did address that my understanding is that where he differs is the reliance on popular adjunct groups and the perpetuation/utilization of colonial racial heuristics.
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R. Mute posted:okay, any african dictator. hey if you want to argue that the framework is outmoded or isn't a specifically Latin American phenomenon I'm not even sure I disagree with you
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Zeitgueist posted:Yeah but the murderdome is probably the biggest thing people remember about Pinochet so it's a hugely loaded comparison. But enough about the NFL.
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Zeitgueist posted:Yeah but the murderdome is probably the biggest thing people remember about Pinochet so it's a hugely loaded comparison. see it's actually not for me just because of the way I used chile as a case study in research but you're right and I should have accounted for that, that was an error in communication on my part
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My Imaginary GF posted:But enough about the NFL. Also no one bit on my TRIA post TRIA was not renewed before Congress adjourned. So uh about the super bowl
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The Warszawa posted:hey if you want to argue that the framework is outmoded or isn't a specifically Latin American phenomenon I'm not even sure I disagree with you it's pretty worthless as a model for explaining anything, so you using it sounds like you're stretching to make castro sound worse than he actually was. which is totally unnecessary.
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So speaking of NK, I watched Olympus Has Fallen last night, and while I knew it was a badly written Die Hard ripoff, holy poo poo was it way worse than I expected it's really so bad and such a backwords version of how these movies normally are, like the inversion of tropes where the good guy is doing things we traditionally have the bad guy do, that it almost seems intentional. Probably SMG wrote a way better summary of how bad that movie is
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The Warszawa posted:Also no one bit on my TRIA post dont worry, Bears werent in it anyways no reason for Obama to call back Congress just for a superbowl, although I'm sure Joementum will come here and post how, with the recent supreme court ruling, the pro forma adjournment of the Senate does not close the session
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i love how thoroughly nk owned sony.
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haven't looked at this thread in like a month.... wild anyway i am playing hookey from work today and to celebrate my day off i am drinking beer and making chili  hail juche
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Swan Oat posted:haven't looked at this thread in like a month.... wild noice I am thinking of a good way to make a joke about Biden being in Havana during the greatest cyberattack on America in history. North Korea must be brought to account for this shameful, vile, surprise attack. We begin universal healthcare, nationalization of too big to fail, and implementation of treasury-direct GMI, all authorized by the war powers act, in 5 minutes. Tomorrow, we'll call Congress to a special session in order authorize a formal state of war. GimmickCandidate.txt She's got no issues in common. "I want Hillary because...." ¤America needs her ¤I'm ready for Hillary ¤Two Clintons in the White House is better than one Implication? America needs Clinton as POTUS. Warren's implication? These factions want their own pet issue to get a symbolic shoutout with no substantive change Hillary is about a higher ideal, while Warren represents FYGM. My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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What is the component of Juche ideology that celebrates heroic effort over technological innovation? It was big during Il-Sung's reign, with a lot of obviously fabricated tales. It was a broader Communist term, since the Soviets had similar propaganda, but I'm specifically interested with the term as it relates to Juche. I want to be able to properly celebrate the Great Successor's victory over the Imperialist dogs.
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Shbobdb posted:What is the component of Juche ideology that celebrates heroic effort over technological innovation? It was big during Il-Sung's reign, with a lot of obviously fabricated tales. It was a broader Communist term, since the Soviets had similar propaganda, but I'm specifically interested with the term as it relates to Juche. I want to be able to properly celebrate the Great Successor's victory over the Imperialist dogs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66r3zZoO4dQ
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Yeah, it isn't unique to N Korea. I'm looking for the term within Juche thought. I remember from that Neo-Con's book that they have and celebrate a very specific term.
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R. Mute posted:imagine the disappointment if she were to get elected  She's got less a chance than the Sr. cranky bastard from Vermont
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Give me President Biden and make us the greatest intercontinental rail country in the world. We will crush our foes with soundless track.
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My Imaginary GF posted:
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:isnt warren way ahead of the cranky bastard in polls No, Hillary has a 50+% lead 
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Swan Oat posted:haven't looked at this thread in like a month.... wild did you ever go to that kebab place i told you sucked when i went to it ~3 years ago
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