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Which religion is the best?
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Shintoism 59 9.58%
Buddhism 77 12.50%
Taoism 66 10.71%
FEAR CLOWNPIECE 414 67.21%
Total: 616 votes
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amuayse
Jul 20, 2013

by exmarx
I'm still waiting for the IN spinoff where you play as Neil Armstrong.

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Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

amuayse posted:

I'm still waiting for the IN spinoff where you play as Neil Armstrong.

Who?

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

I'm considering playing Touhou. Would I miss anything for skipping the Dos games?

HellCopter
Feb 9, 2012
College Slice

Butt Ghost posted:

I'm considering playing Touhou. Would I miss anything for skipping the Dos games?

Not a thing. I've never found the PC-98 games to be very fun.

AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013

:patriot:


Butt Ghost posted:

I'm considering playing Touhou. Would I miss anything for skipping the Dos games?

Yes, and you should play them because they're fun in their own right.

Nages
Dec 31, 2011

Just yell at her like you always do. Bitch, get out of the way!

Butt Ghost posted:

I'm considering playing Touhou. Would I miss anything for skipping the Dos games?

You would miss Mima, but everything else in those games are bad/hard to see, start with the 8th game(imperishable night) or the 13th game (ten desires) because they are easier then the rest.

gnome7
Oct 21, 2010

Who's this Little
Spaghetti?? ??

Butt Ghost posted:

I'm considering playing Touhou. Would I miss anything for skipping the Dos games?

Yes, you should skip them, and you should also skip Touhou 6: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Besides, it's not like there's any story in the games to miss.

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

You should only play Shoot the Bullet and Double Spoiler, that will teach you everything you need to know about Touhou forever.

Justus
Apr 18, 2006

...
I'd say skip em for the time being. I started off with Perfect Cherry Blossom and think it's a great place to start. It's not the easiest game in the series, but far from the hardest too, doesn't have any mechanics that are too terribly obtuse. My favorite patterns are from UFO, but unfortunately that game is guilty of both obtuse mechanics AND ball busting difficulty.

I was a complete neophyte to bullet hell when I picked it up myself. In fact, I hadn't really played any shmups since the early 90s at that point, so my shmup experience had consisted of mostly Gradius III and Super Aleste. It was a bit tough adjusting. The first time I played, I ran out of continues on the stage 3 boss in easy mode...and then I realized how focus and hitbox worked and was able to make it to the stage 5 boss. I'd say I was able to 1cc normal mode after maybe 20-30 hours of playing or so, and ever since then, I've been able to 1cc most normal modes after 10 attempts tops (except UFO which took me most of a summer to 1cc on normal, and Subterranean Animism, which I still can't)

I would say that I personally enjoy the gently caress out of the PC-98 games, but that has more to do with the fact that I find the FM soundtracks and 8-bit graphics with an insanely high sprite-count and smooth framerate to be charming than any particular gameplay merits, though I also think they're fun games, if not as mature design-wise as the later ones. I also have no problem seeing projectiles, although this is a common complaint.

However, as stated, a good jumping-on point they are not.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Start with Phantasmagoria of Flower View like all the pros do.

Widdiful
Oct 10, 2012

Don't play Touhou. Run! Run away while you still can!

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

BlitzBlast posted:

Start with Phantasmagoria of Flower View like all the pros do.

This is what I did, and look at me now.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

I don't mind if it's hard. I love slamming my head against a brick wall. Is there any particular reason why I shouldn't play Touhou 6?

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

Butt Ghost posted:

I don't mind if it's hard. I love slamming my head against a brick wall. Is there any particular reason why I shouldn't play Touhou 6?

No visible hitboxes.

Irisize
Sep 30, 2014

It's very dated.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
It's just not as fun. Touhou games are all about the silly game-specific mechanics, and EoSD has none of that.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

Butt Ghost posted:

I don't mind if it's hard. I love slamming my head against a brick wall. Is there any particular reason why I shouldn't play Touhou 6?

It's about 80% memorization, you have to play on harder difficulties to play stages 5 and 6, the art is really really bad, and the midi instruments are also bad.

HellCopter
Feb 9, 2012
College Slice
To top it off, the bullet patterns aren't as cool as the later games. Subterranean Animism may be one of the hardest in the series, but drat if it isn't pretty.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

I started with 6 and it taught me a couple of bad habits for future games. I say start with 7 or 8. 7 is probably better at showing off more of the average Touhou experience but 8 is easier and better suited for easing you into bullet hells if you've never played any, but it has got quite a few mechanics that aren't in the rest of the series. More than 7 at any rate.

HGH
Dec 20, 2011
6 is also one of the games with the most random, out of your control bullet patterns.

Famitsu posted some more news about the PS4/Vita lineup but I don't think it's anything new.

leather fedora
Jun 27, 2004

The closest acceptable translation is
"die properly"
Gensou no Ronde was announced (Touhou version of Wartech/Senko no Ronde) and themes for the Vita were released. Admittedly not a huge update considering how long it's been since the previous announcement but at least it's progress.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
I actually got that for the PC, and unless they've really revamped it it's not a very good game.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

I played a little bit of 7. I rocked the first level pretty hard on normal, so I turned it up to lunatic then got my rear end handed to me at the boss, though I feel I did decently well before dying. Now I'm seeing blue and red bullets not just with my eyes closed, (but especially with my eyes closed.) I dunno if I'm just not good yet, but I feel like I need to fine tune the controls or something. It feels like I move a little too far.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Oh, that's right. EoSD, PCB, and IN had some input delay issues, most noticeably in the first two. These should fix them.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Butt Ghost posted:

I played a little bit of 7. I rocked the first level pretty hard on normal, so I turned it up to lunatic then got my rear end handed to me at the boss, though I feel I did decently well before dying. Now I'm seeing blue and red bullets not just with my eyes closed, (but especially with my eyes closed.) I dunno if I'm just not good yet, but I feel like I need to fine tune the controls or something. It feels like I move a little too far.

First 3 levels are pretty easy. See how well you do at level 4 before trying Lunatic.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Elliotw2 posted:

the midi instruments are also bad.

:stare:

Do not listen to this man! He is not your friend! He fights for fascism!

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
If you honestly think the original UN Owen sounds good, you need to get your ears checked.

Seriously, just compare the EoSD version to the DiPP one.

BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Dec 18, 2014

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

BlitzBlast posted:

If you honestly think the original UN Owen sounds good, you need to get your ears checked.

Seriously, just compare the EoSD version to the DiPP one.
They're almost identical dude. Hell, the second one's worse in some regards while being better in others, you picked a kinda poor example of an upgrade.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

SyntheticPolygon posted:

First 3 levels are pretty easy. See how well you do at level 4 before trying Lunatic.

Specifically, if you can't beat stages 1-2 with your eyes closed you're probably not ready to beat the game. In general, they're mostly for you to build up your life stock for the second half of the game.

Clarste fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Dec 18, 2014

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

CommissarMega posted:

:stare:

Do not listen to this man! He is not your friend! He fights for fascism!

I hate the guitar and trumpets in EoSD, they're miserable.

amuayse
Jul 20, 2013

by exmarx
Why must Rin be fought like 5 times

a cartoon duck
Sep 5, 2011

BlitzBlast posted:

Start with Phantasmagoria of Flower View like all the pros do.

im gonna fight you and beat you this time

HGH
Dec 20, 2011

amuayse posted:

Why must Rin be fought like 5 times

9 lives, she just got bored and didn't use the other four.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

amuayse posted:

Why must Rin be fought like 5 times

Why must Rin be fought at all when she's specifically the one who wanted to lure you down there to stop Okuu

HGH
Dec 20, 2011
An insatiable lust for corpses.

Also "If they can't beat me no way in hell they can beat her" logic.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Pureauthor posted:

Why must Rin be fought at all when she's specifically the one who wanted to lure you down there to stop Okuu

It's just how things work man.

Redmark
Dec 11, 2012

This one's for you, Morph.
-Evo 2013
I like the EoSD instrumentation, the game just needs a volume control. I don't know how ZUN managed to not include one.

amuayse
Jul 20, 2013

by exmarx
EoSD is kinda weird since the later stages have the faeries being more difficult than the actual bosses.

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Meat Beat Agent
Aug 5, 2007

felonious assault with a sproinging boner
EoSD was the first Touhou I played and also somehow the first one I 1cc'ed on Medium (from a total of like three games I've managed to do that with, not counting PoFV which I've 1cc'ed like 30 times). I'm not sure if that just makes me some kind of bizarro player or what

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