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So it seems like Captain America had a pretty big reveal this week with seemingly wide consequences, apparently someone in every super team (Avengers, X-Men, Inhumans, etc) is a Hydra agent.
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Dec 18, 2014 06:17
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Dacap posted:So it seems like Captain America had a pretty big reveal this week with seemingly wide consequences, apparently someone in every super team (Avengers, X-Men, Inhumans, etc) is a Hydra agent. Or it'll be something every other writer ignores because that is stupid as gently caress.
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Dec 18, 2014 06:33
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It'd be the cool kinda stupid if it turned out to be Wolverine and Spider-man, thus explaining everything.
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Dec 18, 2014 06:39
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That's actually a really dumb idea, because the Avengers isn't what you'd call a stable team, X-Men is currently like 3 different teams that don't particularly like each other, and Inhumans are a royal family that already includes Maximus who tries to take over the entire thing every other week.
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Dec 18, 2014 06:44
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Skwirl posted:That's actually a really dumb idea, because the Avengers isn't what you'd call a stable team, X-Men is currently like 3 different teams that don't particularly like each other, and Inhumans are a royal family that already includes Maximus who tries to take over the entire thing every other week. A dumb idea...from RIck Remender? Pull the other one.
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Dec 18, 2014 06:46
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I'm just saying none of these are teams that need a double agent to self destruct. poo poo, Avengers and New avengers is currently about how they all hate each other.
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Dec 18, 2014 06:56
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You mean there's a HYDRA agent among the Great Lakes Avengers nooooooooooooooooooo It's Flatman isn't it
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Dec 18, 2014 07:01
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:You mean there's a HYDRA agent among the Great Lakes Avengers nooooooooooooooooooo What if it's Squirrel Girl?
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Dec 18, 2014 07:39
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Skwirl posted:I'm just saying none of these are teams that need a double agent to self destruct. poo poo, Avengers and New avengers is currently about how they all hate each other. And then there's all the event comics where heroes fight each other. At this point Hydra pulling out its moles and letting heroes do their thing would probably do more to destroy America than any death weapon they got.
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Dec 18, 2014 07:45
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Anora posted:What if it's Squirrel Girl? I can see the solicits now. "Cut one nut off, and two more shall take its place"
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Dec 18, 2014 07:46
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Dacap posted:So it seems like Captain America had a pretty big reveal this week with seemingly wide consequences, apparently someone in every super team (Avengers, X-Men, Inhumans, etc) is a Hydra agent. Secret Invasion II: Electric Boogaloo? Dammit Rick, you can't just crib the movies like this. Nobody is going to want to be the guy who reveals one of the X-Men or Avengers is an agent of Hydra. Other than you, apparently.
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Dec 18, 2014 09:48
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:And then there's all the event comics where heroes fight each other. At this point Hydra pulling out its moles and letting heroes do their thing would probably do more to destroy America than any death weapon they got. How will the heroes ever trust each other now? -The Illuminati How will the heroes ever trust each other now? -Secret Invasion How will the heroes ever trust each other now? -World War Hulk How will the heroes ever trust each other now? -Civil War How will the heroes ever trust each other now? -Avenger Vs. X-Men How will the heroes ever trust each other now? -The Illuminati Again How will the heroes ever trust each other now? -Captain sAmerica Oops forgot the other one running right now because I'm actively ignoring and avoiding it How will the heroes ever trust each other now? -AXIS SirDan3k fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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Dec 18, 2014 10:35
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Dacap posted:So it seems like Captain America had a pretty big reveal this week with seemingly wide consequences, apparently someone in every super team (Avengers, X-Men, Inhumans, etc) is a Hydra agent.
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Dec 18, 2014 10:54
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I would love if they all gathered in the next issue. Uncanny X-Men (Cyclops, Emma, Magik, Magneto, Gnome) JGS X-Men (Storm, Beast, Iceman, Nightcrawler, Freakshow) Avengers (Cap, Ironman, Thor, Hulk, Powerball) Fantastic Four (Reed, Sue, Ben, Johnny, 5ive) SOMEONE FROM EACH TEAM IS A SPY!!
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Dec 18, 2014 11:10
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irlZaphod posted:Did Rick Remender really like both Secret Invasion and Secret Warriors? I think it's more he really liked Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
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Dec 18, 2014 11:19
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I doubt Remender or any other writer really has that much of a say when Marvel tell them to include certain film plot points. Other than how well or poorly they attempt to incorporate them.
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Dec 18, 2014 11:28
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Yeah if this was like 2005 it could be a cool idea but it really feels like "Secret Invasion, again!"
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Dec 18, 2014 11:42
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It's a weird recursive event. The comics are copying the movie event that took the idea from the comic.
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Dec 18, 2014 13:22
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That and in like, what, 4 or 5 months, the books jump forward and it'll be like it never happened. Hopefully this is just something contained within Remender's books.
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Dec 18, 2014 14:06
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Or it could all be a complete misdirect, or Misty Knight has her info wrong, or she was lied to, or she is in on it all, or this is a set up to something else, or there is mind control involved, or.....the story is still ongoing and this was just the second issue. I like how no one cares that Ian Rogers was killed.
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Dec 18, 2014 15:54
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enigmahfc posted:Or it could all be a complete misdirect, or Misty Knight has her info wrong, or she was lied to, or she is in on it all, or this is a set up to something else, or there is mind control involved, or.....the story is still ongoing and this was just the second issue. I am pretty sure its a misdirect as he has been mentioned to be in later issues.
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Dec 18, 2014 16:11
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bobkatt013 posted:I am pretty sure its a misdirect as he has been mentioned to be in later issues. Yeah, plus there's no way they'd off him like two issues after his big return at the end of the last volume of Cap.
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Dec 18, 2014 16:44
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G. Willow Wilson in the latest issue of Ms. Marvel
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Dec 20, 2014 06:40
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Dr. Killjoy posted:G. Willow Wilson in the latest issue of Ms. Marvel Why worry about your probable future in a Mad Maxian hellhole? You could be President!
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Dec 20, 2014 07:04
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Lurdiak posted:Yeah if this was like 2005 it could be a cool idea but it really feels like "Secret Invasion, again!" The thing is, even Secret Invasion wasn't this. I mean, it wanted to be "A - ha! Every team has been infiltrated, WHO CAN YOU TRUST!" But it never got to do that story beat. The only books that actually did that were the Avengers title that Bendis himself was writing. And Dan Slott's Initiative book. (And even Slott said the story was sprung on him and he could have done much more with the idea if he'd been told about it in advance.) Secret Invasion should have been like Battle Star Galactica with people becoming paranoid wrecks scrutinising everyone's actions and everything falling apart due to paranoia. What it ended up as was "and then you fight some Skrulls who look like 4 other characters blended together. " The only people to do SI right were the animated series. Or the Ultimate Alliance game, where it is tagged on as the ending to Civil War.
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Dec 20, 2014 07:17
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Secret Invasion had some pretty good build up. Elektra and Black Bolt being revealed as Skrulls was exciting as hell. Elektra during the post Civil War, ninja heavy arc that brought back Hawkeye as Ronin, and made Doc Strange an Avenger. Black Bolt at the end of the game changing Illuminati mini.
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Dec 20, 2014 07:56
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The Question IRL posted:The only people to do SI right were the animated series. Or the Ultimate Alliance game, where it is tagged on as the ending to Civil War.  THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU INVADE WAKANDA Ordering every writer in the stable to do the same story beat was a bad idea, just as it was with Civil War. You may not be of the highest opinion of superhero comic writers (and you would be right most of the time), but they are writers with their own tastes and preferred approaches.
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Dec 20, 2014 08:06
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I also really liked the post Secret Invasion Elektra mini series, mostly because "I am Elektra Natchios, not even the stars in the sky are safe" is up there with "My name is Inigo Montoya..." in terms of bad-assitude. Edit: Actually, during Civil war, most of the side poo poo sucked, but post Civil War, usually the best stuff in an event is the tie-in comics. Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Dec 20, 2014 |
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Dec 20, 2014 08:11
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I remember the guy who wrote the Xmen tie in for Secret Invasion wanted to make Nightcrawler a Skrull but editorial said no. So instead he just treated some skrull artifact as religious worship or some poo poo. Xmen get the worst tie ins for these events.
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Dec 20, 2014 15:28
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So I've been blowing through back catalog thanks to Marvel Unlimited, but I've been completely ignoring the AR stuff. Am I missing out on anything?
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Dec 20, 2014 16:53
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fatherboxx posted:
Civil War hijacked everyone's stories, and was pretty badly mismanaged in a lot of the tie-ins, but the basic idea of "The government wants everyone with powers to register, people are taking sides, villains are getting deputized, heroes are becoming fugitives" leaves space for a pretty wide number of reactions/events. On a smaller scale, the same could be said of World War Hulk and Dark Reign and most of that Bendis-Era-Avengers run of events. There was a big inciting event/status quo every writer had to deal with, but there was wiggle room within the actual event. This could have been the case had they actually done Secret Invasion better (with more focus on infiltration, the sort of Invasion/coup they hinted at in the run-up where there would be at least a fig leaf of "The Aliens are Our Friends and Will Be Benevolent Occupiers") but instead it really was "NOW YOU FIGHT SKRULLS". This is (one of the reasons) Blackest Night was so unbearable too, because that one hit THE EXACT SAME BEATS for every story. Or I guess there were two alternatives: "Oh no, a zombie [friend/enemy]! My heart is swelling with emotions but you want to eat my heart because my heart has emotions in it! I must inconclusively fight you because only a Rainbow Lantern Care Bear Stare can kill a Zombie, because Hal Jordan is the greatest." "Oh no, a zombie [friend/enemy]! My heart is swelling with emotions but you want to eat my heart because my heart has emotions in it! I guess I'll come up with some crazy way to kill you because I don't listen to my editors."
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Dec 20, 2014 17:00
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The Question Blackest Night issue was good! The mystical side of being a warrior for justice was a huge part of Question, and BN brought the lessons that Vic Sage was trying to teach full circle with his closest friends. They survived an encounter the twisted mockery of his memory by attaining the enlightenment he was always trying to teach them, however briefly.
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Dec 21, 2014 05:19
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Did Aracely/Hummingbird enroll in the Jean Grey School or something? I'm catching up on Nova and on the halloween issue there's a girl with black hair that texted Nova by mistake trying to text Speedball, all I can think of is her being Aracely since she was in the same team as both of them, but ?????.
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Dec 21, 2014 05:24
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I can't imagine why she'd be going to the Jean Grey School, since she's a demigod, not a mutant. I really, really hope Marvel doesn't forget about her now that New Warriors is canceled, though. Kaine not bringing her up even once during Spider-Verse makes me worry.
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Dec 21, 2014 06:13
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Castomira posted:I can't imagine why she'd be going to the Jean Grey School, since she's a demigod, not a mutant. Did Yost write that tie in? She'll probably pop up occasionally in other stuff he writes for Marvel, but I wouldn't pin my hopes on her popping up in anything written by anyone else, except maybe another short lived young hero team book where most of them die by the end.
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Dec 21, 2014 07:20
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Castomira posted:I can't imagine why she'd be going to the Jean Grey School, since she's a demigod, not a mutant. You don't have to be a mutant to attend or teach at the Jean Grey School.
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Dec 21, 2014 17:58
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Broo is a mutant, but Kid Gladiator isn't right? Man I loved Captain Marvel, the framing device was really well used. The Jess part was by far my favorite. I loved the flashback where Carol says 'Its a rat, we're superheroes, that's overkill". Though the Xmas issue will be after the holidays, crummy. Inventor stole Lockjaw, yea that won't turn out poorly for him.
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Dec 21, 2014 18:55
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Stealing a teenage girl's dog is just about the most evil thing anyone can do.
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Dec 21, 2014 19:01
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twistedmentat posted:Man I loved Captain Marvel, the framing device was really well used. The Jess part was by far my favorite. I loved the flashback where Carol says 'Its a rat, we're superheroes, that's overkill". The part with Jess was good. I also loved Wendy telling Rhodey to "Pull a Carol"
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Dec 21, 2014 19:08
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Dragonshirt posted:You don't have to be a mutant to attend or teach at the Jean Grey School. It certainly helps, though.
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Dec 21, 2014 19:13
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