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ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
So, I assume we all managed to survive the company holiday parties without much incident and all the requisite awkwardness.

One little story I have to share - at our company party this year, our employer decided to give us wi-fi Kindle Paperwhites. Nice!

Except 2 years ago we all (with the exception of about 15 newer employees) received an earlier version of a Kindle. So now I have two Kindles.

On the scale of "reasons why you no longer want to work in corporate" this definitely isn't on it, but now I'm wondering what the hell to do with it/them. I like my original Kindle and use it occasionally. Since the Paperwhite version is still completely boxed up, could I just take it to a local big box store like Best Buy or something and get store credit? I could regift it, but I'd rather have the ability to turn its value ($140?) into other gifts for people.

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Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug
As long as BestBuy sells that same thing, they'll take it back pretty much without blinking. Walmart will hesitate even less.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

a shameful boehner posted:

So, I assume we all managed to survive the company holiday parties without much incident and all the requisite awkwardness.

Friend of mine has just recevied a company-wide memo on the importance of behaving appropriately at company social events.

Along with a carefully-worded covering email stating that having sex with a colleague in a cupboard is not in accordance with these requirements.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005
I am always amazed when I hear about company parties with incidents like that, both from a where on earth are they working that this is even possible perspective and from a how do you not only not despise your co-workers, but actively want to have sex with them view as well.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

spog posted:

Friend of mine has just recevied a company-wide memo on the importance of behaving appropriately at company social events.

Along with a carefully-worded covering email stating that having sex with a colleague in a cupboard is not in accordance with these requirements.

Are you ready for some dirty work sex stories.

The CEO (male) and one of the managers (female) had an ongoing affair and would often have threesomes with a stripper whenever the CEO was in town.

One of my female coworkers and our admin. assist got caught at a party 69ing, and then let people watch.

one of the network admins ran 5 porn websites during work hours from his office.

One VP spent his day playing video games and jerking off (you prayed if you had to talk to him you caught him during videogame time)

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost

a shameful boehner posted:

So, I assume we all managed to survive the company holiday parties without much incident and all the requisite awkwardness.

One little story I have to share - at our company party this year, our employer decided to give us wi-fi Kindle Paperwhites. Nice!

Except 2 years ago we all (with the exception of about 15 newer employees) received an earlier version of a Kindle. So now I have two Kindles.

On the scale of "reasons why you no longer want to work in corporate" this definitely isn't on it, but now I'm wondering what the hell to do with it/them. I like my original Kindle and use it occasionally. Since the Paperwhite version is still completely boxed up, could I just take it to a local big box store like Best Buy or something and get store credit? I could regift it, but I'd rather have the ability to turn its value ($140?) into other gifts for people.

Ours got pushed back to sometime in January, I'm curious if anyone will still be interested in bothering with it by then. I know I'm not.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

sbaldrick posted:

Are you ready for some dirty work sex stories.

The CEO (male) and one of the managers (female) had an ongoing affair and would often have threesomes with a stripper whenever the CEO was in town.

One of my female coworkers and our admin. assist got caught at a party 69ing, and then let people watch.

one of the network admins ran 5 porn websites during work hours from his office.

One VP spent his day playing video games and jerking off (you prayed if you had to talk to him you caught him during videogame time)

holy poo poo. :stonk:

ladyweapon
Nov 6, 2010

It reads all over his face,
like he's an Italian.
And here I was surprised to find out one of our long time customers did coke at office parties.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

sbaldrick posted:

Are you ready for some dirty work sex stories.

The CEO (male) and one of the managers (female) had an ongoing affair and would often have threesomes with a stripper whenever the CEO was in town.

One of my female coworkers and our admin. assist got caught at a party 69ing, and then let people watch.

one of the network admins ran 5 porn websites during work hours from his office.

One VP spent his day playing video games and jerking off (you prayed if you had to talk to him you caught him during videogame time)

:allears:

It amazes me just how many people somehow think it's okay to surf porn in the office. I spent some time working IT for my Uni's Student Union/Organization/Whatever you call it. Lots of part time student employees working front desk jobs that needed computer access. We were pretty lax on surfing rules and actually turned a blind eye more often than not when we noticed people surfing facebook or streaming music on the clock. But man oh man, you would not believe how many times I trudged down to the front desk of the pool or cafe, sat down next to the person working computer, and told them if we ever caught them surfing porn again we'd have to tell their manager. And there were a few repeat offenders :doh:. My all time favorite was a front desk employee at the gym, who after we caught her confessed to plugging a usb into the computer and uploading videos of herself to some tube site. What in the actual gently caress is wrong with you? :downs:

Although man, actually having an admin hosting porn sites out of his office is pretty great.

Sydin fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Dec 17, 2014

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Sydin posted:

:allears:

It amazes me just how many people somehow think it's okay to surf porn in the office. I spent some time working IT for my Uni's Student Union/Organization/Whatever you call it. Lots of part time student employees working front desk jobs that needed computer access. We were pretty lax on surfing rules and actually turned a blind eye more often than not when we noticed people surfing facebook or streaming music on the clock. But man oh man, you would not believe how many times I trudged down to the front desk of the pool or cafe, sat down next to the person working computer, and told them if we ever caught them surfing porn again we'd have to tell their manager. And there were a few repeat offenders :doh:. My all time favorite was a front desk employee at the gym, who after we caught her confessed to plugging a usb into the computer and uploading videos of herself to some tube site. What in the actual gently caress is wrong with you? :downs:

Although man, actually having an admin hosting porn sites out of his office is pretty great.

Back when I worked at the campus computer lab in college, the policy was that users were allowed to look at porn, and anyone that complained could be reseated elsewhere. Obviously, jerking it was both not ok and something we would call the police for.

Taliesyn
Apr 5, 2007

sbaldrick posted:

one of the network admins ran 5 porn websites during work hours from his office.

Wow, and I thought it was bad when, while fixing my boss's computer after he tried to open the I Love U email around 15 or 20 times, I discovered a hentai collection of epic proportions.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

a shameful boehner posted:

So, I assume we all managed to survive the company holiday parties without much incident and all the requisite awkwardness.

One little story I have to share - at our company party this year, our employer decided to give us wi-fi Kindle Paperwhites. Nice!

Except 2 years ago we all (with the exception of about 15 newer employees) received an earlier version of a Kindle. So now I have two Kindles.

On the scale of "reasons why you no longer want to work in corporate" this definitely isn't on it, but now I'm wondering what the hell to do with it/them. I like my original Kindle and use it occasionally. Since the Paperwhite version is still completely boxed up, could I just take it to a local big box store like Best Buy or something and get store credit? I could regift it, but I'd rather have the ability to turn its value ($140?) into other gifts for people.


Honestly, if its still new in box, I'd be willing to take it off your hands for you. What are you looking to get for it?

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

No kidding, the worst I'm aware of at our place is a couple of coworkers dating each other, no coke or wild sex :(

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

a shameful boehner posted:

So, I assume we all managed to survive the company holiday parties without much incident and all the requisite awkwardness.

One little story I have to share - at our company party this year, our employer decided to give us wi-fi Kindle Paperwhites. Nice!

Except 2 years ago we all (with the exception of about 15 newer employees) received an earlier version of a Kindle. So now I have two Kindles.

On the scale of "reasons why you no longer want to work in corporate" this definitely isn't on it, but now I'm wondering what the hell to do with it/them. I like my original Kindle and use it occasionally. Since the Paperwhite version is still completely boxed up, could I just take it to a local big box store like Best Buy or something and get store credit? I could regift it, but I'd rather have the ability to turn its value ($140?) into other gifts for people.

yeah craigslist that poo poo. I won an XBox One at a company raffle a few weeks ago and walked away with $380 for doing nothing.

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

Sydin posted:

My all time favorite was a front desk employee at the gym, who after we caught her confessed to plugging a usb into the computer and uploading videos of herself to some tube site. What in the actual gently caress is wrong with you? :downs:

At my last job, after one employee left, and I was setting the computer up for a new one and cleaning things out. Then I noticed his My Videos folder thumbnail was an erect penis. Inside there was a video that I refused to watch. HR wanted to make sure no one else was present in the video that still worked there, so my boss watched it. Nothing like seeing a fat bald man's Adult Friend Finder jerk off video (I had previously noticed that his web browsing history had AFF all over the place, but my boss didn't want to gently caress with it then. I bet he regrets that now).

Inept fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Dec 18, 2014

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005
Okay, serious question because I just don't get it: Why is our company org chart considered executive confidential?

You aren't allowed to view it as an employee. Only executives have access to it (not even my manager or my manager's manager), and even though we got written up by an FDA auditor when nobody at the entire site was able to provide it on request, we still can't access it or provide it to the FDA on request. This is a super common request they make in order to determine chain of command and who various decisions rest with in the end. We got a loving 483 citation for not having it last time, and they're still saying nobody is allowed to see it.

(Comedy and yet probably real answer: I bet some senior director has like fourteen hookers on the payroll as floating VPs.)


Any insight on why a company would do that with its organizational structure? My last two companies had it in a searchable web-app format on their front page.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug

Sundae posted:

Any insight on why a company would do that with its organizational structure? My last two companies had it in a searchable web-app format on their front page.

It could be like my company where the first 40 seconds of this video really encapsulates who is responsible for what.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f96p-IhcZhQ

Io_
Oct 15, 2012

woo woo

Pillbug
They don't want you to know who to blame. Also the hookers thing.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Sundae posted:

Any insight on why a company would do that with its organizational structure? My last two companies had it in a searchable web-app format on their front page.
Yea, I am going to go ahead and say this is another artifact of how horrendous your company is. I work with pharma companies pretty regularly and whenever we need an org chart for someone it can be gotten by almost anyone very easily. Like at worst we have to ask someone supervisor or an HR grunt to email it over.

Maybe they simply stopped maintaining it in any fashion, and saying that it is exec-only because they don't want people to see that it reflects a corporate structure from ten years ago and no one currently shown still works there.

Spermy Smurf
Jul 2, 2004
They don't want peons to know who their bosses boss is so they can't go over their heads.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

Sundae posted:

Okay, serious question because I just don't get it: Why is our company org chart considered executive confidential?

You aren't allowed to view it as an employee. Only executives have access to it (not even my manager or my manager's manager), and even though we got written up by an FDA auditor when nobody at the entire site was able to provide it on request, we still can't access it or provide it to the FDA on request. This is a super common request they make in order to determine chain of command and who various decisions rest with in the end. We got a loving 483 citation for not having it last time, and they're still saying nobody is allowed to see it.

(Comedy and yet probably real answer: I bet some senior director has like fourteen hookers on the payroll as floating VPs.)


Any insight on why a company would do that with its organizational structure? My last two companies had it in a searchable web-app format on their front page.

My corporate org chart doesn't exist on the inside but does exist on a searchable database to the public.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
hahaha, my boss the VP of HR has been banned from the Sales dist list because he might find out "confidential information."

The head of HR.

Might find out.

Confidential information.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

Sundae posted:

Okay, serious question because I just don't get it: Why is our company org chart considered executive confidential?

You aren't allowed to view it as an employee. Only executives have access to it (not even my manager or my manager's manager), and even though we got written up by an FDA auditor when nobody at the entire site was able to provide it on request, we still can't access it or provide it to the FDA on request. This is a super common request they make in order to determine chain of command and who various decisions rest with in the end. We got a loving 483 citation for not having it last time, and they're still saying nobody is allowed to see it.

(Comedy and yet probably real answer: I bet some senior director has like fourteen hookers on the payroll as floating VPs.)


Any insight on why a company would do that with its organizational structure? My last two companies had it in a searchable web-app format on their front page.

Christ, hiding the loving org chart? Did you guys submit a compliance plan for the 483 (and are now ignoring it) or did you guys bother not to respond at all?

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

a shameful boehner posted:

So, I assume we all managed to survive the company holiday parties without much incident and all the requisite awkwardness.

My boss pulled out a bag full of balloons and started making balloon animals in a crowded bar.

You think you know a guy until it turns out he moonlights as a party clown.



um...no wild sex parties or coke, fortunately. At least not that I know of.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Solkanar512 posted:

Christ, hiding the loving org chart? Did you guys submit a compliance plan for the 483 (and are now ignoring it) or did you guys bother not to respond at all?

I bet your ISO9000 certification/compliance requires an org chart to be visible.

spincube
Jan 31, 2006

I spent :10bux: so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
Grimey Drawer

Sundae posted:

Any insight on why a company would do that with its organizational structure? My last two companies had it in a searchable web-app format on their front page.

Regulatory details aside, some companies have clearly-defined job titles and job roles; if Tom, Dick and Harry are at the same level on the organagram, they can be vaguely sure they enjoy the same organisational seniority, responsibilities, and pay grade, as dictated by HR.

I want to work at that company :(

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Solkanar512 posted:

Christ, hiding the loving org chart? Did you guys submit a compliance plan for the 483 (and are now ignoring it) or did you guys bother not to respond at all?

That's part of what I can't understand. We had to have a compliance plan because that 483 was part of the huge pile of poo poo that resulted in our Consent Decree. They had to address it, but they sure aren't acting like it. What the hell is such a big secret about our org chart that they're willing to risk the FDA's wrath while under consent decree?

MickeyFinn
May 8, 2007
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia some mark ass bitches

Sundae posted:

That's part of what I can't understand. We had to have a compliance plan because that 483 was part of the huge pile of poo poo that resulted in our Consent Decree. They had to address it, but they sure aren't acting like it. What the hell is such a big secret about our org chart that they're willing to risk the FDA's wrath while under consent decree?

I would say it is most likely that someone is just plain loving up. This is why projects with 2 month deadlines get assigned to me the day before they are due. Whoever was assigned them first did literally nothing. Is there a deadline for compliance? Everything will happen within 15 minutes (before or after) that deadline.

SubjectVerbObject
Jul 27, 2009

Sundae posted:

That's part of what I can't understand. We had to have a compliance plan because that 483 was part of the huge pile of poo poo that resulted in our Consent Decree. They had to address it, but they sure aren't acting like it. What the hell is such a big secret about our org chart that they're willing to risk the FDA's wrath while under consent decree?

Probably the original org chart was done in Excel, and now they are having to draw it by hand.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

Sundae posted:

That's part of what I can't understand. We had to have a compliance plan because that 483 was part of the huge pile of poo poo that resulted in our Consent Decree. They had to address it, but they sure aren't acting like it. What the hell is such a big secret about our org chart that they're willing to risk the FDA's wrath while under consent decree?

Whenever the FDA asks, show them a picture of the CEO and said he did it. They get the information and you get out of your contract.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Sundae posted:

That's part of what I can't understand. We had to have a compliance plan because that 483 was part of the huge pile of poo poo that resulted in our Consent Decree. They had to address it, but they sure aren't acting like it. What the hell is such a big secret about our org chart that they're willing to risk the FDA's wrath while under consent decree?

Probably because profits from ignoring this are greater than the fines/costs to fix it now.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Sundae posted:

Okay, serious question because I just don't get it: Why is our company org chart considered executive confidential?

You aren't allowed to view it as an employee. Only executives have access to it (not even my manager or my manager's manager), and even though we got written up by an FDA auditor when nobody at the entire site was able to provide it on request, we still can't access it or provide it to the FDA on request. This is a super common request they make in order to determine chain of command and who various decisions rest with in the end. We got a loving 483 citation for not having it last time, and they're still saying nobody is allowed to see it.

(Comedy and yet probably real answer: I bet some senior director has like fourteen hookers on the payroll as floating VPs.)


Any insight on why a company would do that with its organizational structure? My last two companies had it in a searchable web-app format on their front page.


What the gently caress. :stare:

We have an interactive org chart on our portal. You can see some basic info about anyone up to and including the CEO, or even find the shortest path between any two people. Connecting myself the CEO and seeing all the nodes between was somewhat depressing, though.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

mobby_6kl posted:

What the gently caress. :stare:

We have an interactive org chart on our portal. You can see some basic info about anyone up to and including the CEO, or even find the shortest path between any two people. Connecting myself the CEO and seeing all the nodes between was somewhat depressing, though.

Same :(

"Supervisor...Manager...Director...VP...VP...another VP...SVP...EVP...why do I have more VPs than people on my team?"

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
When I joined my company, I was curious about how far removed I was from the top. Only four spaces removed. Me -> Director -> VP -> CIO -> COO -> CEO. I told my buddy who works at a major bank, and he just gave me a death stare. :allears:

SubjectVerbObject posted:

Probably the original org chart was done in Excel, and now they are having to draw it by hand.

Well, that's what happens when your company won't let you use pivot tables. :v:


Sundae posted:

Okay, serious question because I just don't get it: Why is our company org chart considered executive confidential?

This blows my mind. How the gently caress do you hide an org chart? Your company just isn't satisfied with big picture evil - all of the little things have to be grossly incompetent too.

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf
It's me->CFO->CEO at my company. Although sometimes it's just me->CEO for some projects.

Small companies rock. :toot:

ladyweapon
Nov 6, 2010

It reads all over his face,
like he's an Italian.
I just found out one of the vendors I loathe (because they're inefficient and terrible) has been charging us like 6-10x the going rate for a piece of software we use. They don't do anything with it, its just usage fees. I never looked into comparing rates because the company has been using them for years and my coworker usually haggles people about their pricing intermittently. This is like $5-7K per year we're about to save because I sent one email to the software manufacturer.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
I'm guessing that there's literally nobody running the site there. There's a Markov chain connected to an outlook account that randomly sends emails from above, and no one even questions it because that's basically how upper management will communicate.

I just realized that this is depressingly plausible.

peter banana posted:

hahaha, my boss the VP of HR has been banned from the Sales dist list because he might find out "confidential information."

The head of HR.

Might find out.

Confidential information.

It's not that shocking. It's smart to want to compartmentalize sensitive information that isn't relevant to job functionality. What does the VP of HR need to know about sales plans and price poin oh god they're bribing people, aren't they...

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?
I work for a pharma company and our org chart is on the front page of the intranet.

Not only that, you can click any contact in Lync and see their direct reports, who they share a manager with, and who their direct manager is. You can then click anyone shown in that view and do exactly the same thing for them. This means:
- It's nice and easy to walk the org chart interactively
- It's very easy to find an alternative person to contact or an escalation point if someone is out of the office

I have no clue what Sundae's employer is up to but nothing about pharma regulations requires the org chart to be secret (quite the opposite in fact, as already mentioned). Keep in mind this insanity is brought to you by the same company which banned all use of excel though.

MickeyFinn
May 8, 2007
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia some mark ass bitches
Because all of the work being done to prepare for the Christmas party here, I just realized that if my company spent the same amount of effort on contracts that we do setting up this party, we may not be considered a bunch of chucklefucks by the rest of the industry.

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Taliesyn
Apr 5, 2007

rolleyes posted:

I have no clue what Sundae's employer is up to but nothing about pharma regulations requires the org chart to be secret (quite the opposite in fact, as already mentioned). Keep in mind this insanity is brought to you by the same company which banned all use of excel though.

It still blows my mind that Sundae's employer can even operate with all the restrictions effectively banning the use of Excel. :stare:

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