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Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

SRM posted:

Use the cultists as conscripts for your IG, or better yet, use them to start a Necromunda gang!

Besides, you can do some cool conversions if you feel inclined:


My only issue with either those is that they're crawling with chaos symbols but I guess that's what you have greenstuff and plastic putty for.
Funny enough I was considering converting the great coat guy into an Imperial as he arrived to me headless thanks to my brother wanting to change his head so he should with some greenstuff be one of the easiest to convert. No idea about the rest though.

Guess I'll just clip em off the sprue and see what I can do with them for conversion work. It's not like my backlog is huge already as it is. :v:

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AbusePuppy
Nov 1, 2012

BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!! so far.

Oh, hey there Thermite. A Lord with 2+/3++/Command Barge and the ability to reroll 1s on his saves? And S8 melee attacks? Well okay, yeah, I could get that.

I know the Necron codex will gently caress it all up in a month or so here, but goddamn, until that time...

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

I gotta say "Relics of the War in Heaven" is a pretty boss title and really fitting the Necrons.

panascope
Mar 26, 2005

AbusePuppy posted:

Oh, hey there Thermite. A Lord with 2+/3++/Command Barge and the ability to reroll 1s on his saves? And S8 melee attacks? Well okay, yeah, I could get that.

I know the Necron codex will gently caress it all up in a month or so here, but goddamn, until that time...

I'm gonna take double Overlords on CCBs tomorrow, should be pretty 'fun' for everyone else. I'm glad GW is restoring Necrons to their rightful status of God's Own Army.

BuffaloChicken
May 18, 2008

SRM posted:

Yep! He's Colonel Vadim, my Valhallan counts-as Straken. I've never actually used him but maybe some day.
That's a travesty... dude needs to get his boots dirty and kick some rear end. Commander Swagger here may not always be a superstar, but at least he always looks super dope when he's got a Carnifex charging him or whatever.



What I'm trying to say is that it's not hard to transform those raggedy Chaos fanatics into raggedy Imperial fanatics!

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
Does the Deathstorm box come with all the bits and bobs of the full kits for the Dreadnaught and Carnifex or just one option if weapons?

WhiteOutMouse
Jul 29, 2010

:wom: will blow your mind.
Hey competitive goons. A fun flavor of the meta is thunder wolves and bikes playing together. I have been slowly buying models for an army similar to this and I think I'm ready to make a list so I can actually plan how I build this...

*I used linked image because SA must scale it down or something, all low res and blurry*

I have enough for all that up there +a few thunderwolves. The list has 13pt left, but I am waiting for AbusePuppy, Naramyth or others to nit pick it first. Each bike squad I think is supposed to be escorted by a S10 juggernaut, while the squad of wolves has Khan with them. This way everything has hit-n-run and scout. I know there is a super deathstar version where everything is in one squad but I opted for this since I am a bad player and this is a safer play, this way if I make a mistake it will not be with 1500pt unit.

What do you guys think? Should I abandon all hope of fliers and use those 250pt for more wolf men? Get a Biker Chaptermaster? I thought the talons would be handy for killing fragile FMCs, scoring those objectives people place on the top of ruins, and to force any maelstrom cards with fliers on it.


As for models it will be Nightlord-Chaos Knight Horses +40k bits for the white scars (with Archaon representing Khan) and Preheresy-looking Worldeaters on Juggernauts representing the Space Wolves. I think the Darkblue with warm lighting Nightlords will look good with warm white accented with bright blue Preheresy Worldeaters 'leading' them around.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
All the sprues you would get if you bought them in their normal boxes are in the Deathstorm set.

AbusePuppy
Nov 1, 2012

BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!! so far.

WhiteOutMouse posted:

Hey competitive goons. A fun flavor of the meta is thunder wolves and bikes playing together. I have been slowly buying models for an army similar to this and I think I'm ready to make a list so I can actually plan how I build this...
*deletia*

Looks pretty darn good for a start on things. A few thoughts in the usual manner:

-Fenrisian Wolves probably aren't worth your time- the changes to wound allocation in 6E/7E made them a lot less valuable and you would feel pretty terrible if a squad dropped to majority Toughness 4 because the doggies were the last to die. The Cyberwolves are more arguable, but given they cost nearly as much as a bike and don't have Hammer of Wrath, a TLBolter, 3+ armor, or Jink, I think you could safely trade them out.

-Just go ahead and spend the extra points for Wolf Lords over WGBLs. You get a wound, an attack, and a pip each in WD/Ld, which are all valuable things to have. You could argue over taking the second Wolf Lord versus other stuff, but I'm not familiar enough there to say for certain. However, my intuition would be that you already are running a lot of characters (Khan, two Priests, two Lords) so dropping one is certainly a viable option. (If you really wanted to keep a character in every squad, a third Priest clocks in a lot cheaper and hits nearly as hard. Remember that +1WS for Company of the Great Wolf!) You might also look to swapping one of the Lords to having a Lightning Claw or similar weapon- being able to kill some guys before they swing at you is a handy ability to have, although I suppose Khan also fills that role to a degree.

-I would lean slightly more towards Grav than Melta in your squads; not that Melta isn't good or anything, but Grav is fine for handling heavier vehicles (who suffer its effects worse, especially stuff like Land Raiders) and you have a lot of S10 AP1 for killing Knights already. One trick I do with my Bike units is to run 4 Bikes + Attack Bike, which gets you three fancy guns while still fulfilling the "minimum five models" clause; it also nets you an extra wound at basically the same price you'd pay otherwise.

Apart from that, the list is looking very solid; it's quite similar to a list one of my friends has had a lot of success with (although he goes with the Command Squad deathstar over the SM support elements you're using.) Bikes + Wolves is a very strong army and I don't think you'll have many complaints running something like that, even if you left it completely unchanged from the version you have now.

Vermintide
Oct 26, 2013

Just a heads up, I'm selling off the majority of my Tyranid army over here:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3688848



Figure one of you goons might actually give them more use than sitting on a shelf like they had been for years!

WhiteOutMouse
Jul 29, 2010

:wom: will blow your mind.

AbusePuppy posted:


-Fenrisian Wolves

-Just go ahead and spend the extra points for Wolf Lords over WGBLs. You get a wound, an attack, and a pip each in WD/Ld, which are all valuable things to have. You could argue over taking the second Wolf Lord versus other stuff, but I'm not familiar enough there to say for certain. However, my intuition would be that you already are running a lot of characters (Khan, two Priests, two Lords) so dropping one is certainly a viable option. (If you really wanted to keep a character in every squad, a third Priest clocks in a lot cheaper and hits nearly as hard. Remember that +1WS for Company of the Great Wolf!) You might also look to swapping one of the Lords to having a Lightning Claw or similar weapon- being able to kill some guys before they swing at you is a handy ability to have, although I suppose Khan also fills that role to a degree.

-I would lean slightly more towards Grav than Melta in your squads

Apart from that, the list is looking very solid; it's quite similar to a list one of my friends has had a lot of success with (although he goes with the Command Squad deathstar over the SM support elements you're using.) Bikes + Wolves is a very strong army and I don't think you'll have many complaints running something like that, even if you left it completely unchanged from the version you have now.

Woot, thanks for the info. I looked into it and the "Kingsguard" perk of the detachment only helps "Wolf Guard _____" and "Thunderwolf ____", not "____ Priest" which is a shame, and I figured the 3++ is very important versus 6++.

Ill have to see how to make attack bikes out of horses... And I have more grav to toss around. Thanks again.

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Australia cares about cunts. Including this one.

WhiteOutMouse posted:

Hey competitive goons. A fun flavor of the meta is thunder wolves and bikes playing together. I have been slowly buying models for an army similar to this and I think I'm ready to make a list so I can actually plan how I build this...

*I used linked image because SA must scale it down or something, all low res and blurry*

I have enough for all that up there +a few thunderwolves. The list has 13pt left, but I am waiting for AbusePuppy, Naramyth or others to nit pick it first. Each bike squad I think is supposed to be escorted by a S10 juggernaut, while the squad of wolves has Khan with them. This way everything has hit-n-run and scout. I know there is a super deathstar version where everything is in one squad but I opted for this since I am a bad player and this is a safer play, this way if I make a mistake it will not be with 1500pt unit.

What do you guys think? Should I abandon all hope of fliers and use those 250pt for more wolf men? Get a Biker Chaptermaster? I thought the talons would be handy for killing fragile FMCs, scoring those objectives people place on the top of ruins, and to force any maelstrom cards with fliers on it.


As for models it will be Nightlord-Chaos Knight Horses +40k bits for the white scars (with Archaon representing Khan) and Preheresy-looking Worldeaters on Juggernauts representing the Space Wolves. I think the Darkblue with warm lighting Nightlords will look good with warm white accented with bright blue Preheresy Worldeaters 'leading' them around.

That looks fun as hell. Possible rules issue: I think the independent characters have to have scout in order to scout with the group, which is backwards from 6th. No books so I can't double check though. :ninja: edit: nope that's infiltrate.

I'm with AP, more grav more betta, for the same reasons he lists (tons of S10, for knights, grav tends to be better against other targets. Since you aren't doing the wolfstar I'd drop the wolves off of everything and maybe run a grav command squad instead of the Twolf cav. I'd also cut the thunderfire for a third talon. I also like AP's advice on using more priests to juggle points, since the reason you are doing it is to provide a 2+ and S10 swings for the biker squads.

My main issue is this is using two "primary" detachments which is not allowed in in the LVO format. You'd have to ally in Marines, which means you can't have khan as your warlord, or you ally in wolves which kills the concept.

Seriously, loving awesome. Like if I can figure out the detachment bullshit I'm going to buy some Twolf boxes.

Naramyth fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Dec 18, 2014

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
With the new C'tan rules out I figure I should finish up my C'tan. I'd just like a quick sanity check on my shard of Nyadra'zatha, the Burning One:





Does it look alright or does it look like I rolled a Necrosphynx around in a bits box? I kinda imagine the gauntlets he's wearing are Canoptek Shackles, which control and limit its power.

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice
I was just about to post my Prime conversions but there's no way I'm competing with that. drat.

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
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MasterSlowPoke posted:

With the new C'tan rules out I figure I should finish up my C'tan. I'd just like a quick sanity check on my shard of Nyadra'zatha, the Burning One:





Does it look alright or does it look like I rolled a Necrosphynx around in a bits box? I kinda imagine the gauntlets he's wearing are Canoptek Shackles, which control and limit its power.

Looks pretty rad to me

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007
Looks pretty sweet.

But that reminded me that someone made a bipedal conversion kit for the necrosphinx, sadly I cannot remember who/where to find it and google fails me.
e. Nevermind, found it. Less versatile than I remembered it.

Hencoe
Sep 4, 2012

MY LIFE GOAL IS TO STICK A FLESHLIGHT INTO THE END OF A HOWITZER AND FUCK THE SHIT OUT OF IT

xtothez posted:

I was just about to post my Prime conversions but there's no way I'm competing with that. drat.

Do it anyways, it's not like it's a competition and that hierophant you did looked good.

Lord Thrust
Jan 18, 2013

If you build a man a fire he'll be warm for a night.
If you set a man on fire he'll be warm for the rest of his short, painful life.

REAL MUSCLE MILK posted:

It makes zero financial sense to participate in this hobby at all. I am an adult man who budgets monthly for toys. Don't use lovely 'well it doesn't make any sense to pay FW prices when I can get more for cheaper!' logic to justify the fact you just want to have your cake and eat it, too. There is no need to 'save' money in this hobby. You do not have some overbearing need to get 3 Castellax for the price of 1. You're not some working class parent saving money to feed two kids for the price of one. You're a person who wants more toys for less money. There's no justification.

Except for more toys.

spacegoat
Dec 23, 2003

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Nap Ghost
Crosspostin'.

Been busy lately.




Click for unreasonably massive:



202 points-base, down :smithicide:

spacegoat fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Dec 18, 2014

eSportseXpert
Jun 24, 2005

Stupid fucking white man.
Those're gorgeous. I think that colour scheme and the old models look great.

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

MasterSlowPoke posted:

With the new C'tan rules out I figure I should finish up my C'tan. I'd just like a quick sanity check on my shard of Nyadra'zatha, the Burning One:





Does it look alright or does it look like I rolled a Necrosphynx around in a bits box? I kinda imagine the gauntlets he's wearing are Canoptek Shackles, which control and limit its power.

Hate to tell you this, but he's not burning at all!?

Sulecrist
Apr 5, 2007

Better tear off this bar association logo.
I bought my friend the Wraithguard/Wraithblade kit for Christmas because he's been talking about them for a while. He is now trying to decide how to build them. Any suggestions?

To the extent that they are in a Wave Serpent, it will be the only Wave Serpent in his army.

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Depends. If he doesn't have any I'd recommend D-Scythes since they'll be most useful. If he doesn't have any Fire Dragons, then perhaps normal Wraithguard with wraithcannons.

Either way, stay the hell away from Wraithblades.

Renfield
Feb 29, 2008
Eldar have a lot of anti-inf guns with avengers and even guardians- I run my wrathguard with cannon, and not just cos there the old lead ones - dropping a squad of T6, S10 AP2, Fearless with a 3+ save, from a wave-serpent is going to ruin someones day (Don't forget the instant death on a 6).

(edit)
Run a spiritseer with them as well

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
not to pull a hollis but this blood angels box is actually p sweet. beats having to buy a box of death company and sanguinary guard for shoulderpads and torsos.

drgnvale
Apr 30, 2004

A sword is not cutlery!

REAL MUSCLE MILK posted:

not to pull a hollis but this blood angels box is actually p sweet. beats having to buy a box of death company and sanguinary guard for shoulderpads and torsos.

It is a cool looking box of space men, and if it'd been released a week or so before the codex I think a lot of people would have been all over it. It's a shame about the timing really.

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

spacegoat posted:

Crosspostin'.

Been busy lately.




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202 points-base, down :smithicide:

Those are awesome!
I have 30 of the old school termies to paint (thankfully they are plastic and not metal), and I can wait to get to them.

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

spacegoat posted:

Crosspostin'.

Been busy lately.




Click for unreasonably massive:



202 points-base, down :smithicide:

You. You are my kind of ham. These look dope. What's next for the retro bugs?

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender

spacegoat posted:

Crosspostin'.

Been busy lately.




Click for unreasonably massive:



202 points-base, down :smithicide:

Those are loving great! I love the old bright color scheme.

BuffaloChicken
May 18, 2008
Those old-school Nids rule... awesome job! Only question though, what's with the varied basing styles? Are you going for a mixed look, or are they still in progress?

Finally finished up some Squats. Well, almost finished. Photos always reveal some things that need neatening up.

Inquisitor with Conversion Beamer. The big cannon "conversion beamer" is just a marker, with all LOS etc. drawn from the Squat. I'll use it variously as an objective or emplaced useable weapon in games without the Inquisitor. He's definitely getting another black wash on the beard and some blacklining around the copper face medallions.



He'll be in the unit with his two assistants (play as Jokaero), who I've had made for a while. I had to shuffle my lists when the new Inquisition and GK Codexes came out.



Here's the Librarian Scrunt Squat Runemaster, playing as a GK Librarian. He'll have an entire unit of Terminator Scrunts Exo-Armour Squats in the future.



And, finally, one last guy who is still a work in progress - needs a grenade in that hand, for example, and I might greenstuff some more details. I don't really know what to field him as in my army lists, but I truly hope some of you recognize the character.



EDIT: Forgot to say that this is looking super cool. Would it be possible to slice the cheekbones up a little bit so the head is a slim, Necron-looking head? Either way, with a suitably firey paintjob this should be great.

MasterSlowPoke posted:

With the new C'tan rules out I figure I should finish up my C'tan. I'd just like a quick sanity check on my shard of Nyadra'zatha, the Burning One:


BuffaloChicken fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Dec 19, 2014

Slimnoid
Sep 6, 2012

Does that mean I don't get the job?

Yes.

Yes.

AbusePuppy
Nov 1, 2012

BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!! so far.

Naramyth posted:

My main issue is this is using two "primary" detachments which is not allowed in in the LVO format.

Actually it's legit- he's not using two CADs, he's using one plus a unique army detachment (the Company of the Great Wolf), which is doable even in LVO.

MasterSlowPoke posted:

With the new C'tan rules out I figure I should finish up my C'tan. I'd just like a quick sanity check on my shard of Nyadra'zatha, the Burning One:



What's up, Tomb Kings C'tan bro? I think your guy is a pretty cool guy and also you are a pretty cool guy.

In all seriousness, he looks good. My only concern is that the model seems a bit top-heavy, but other than that it's very nice.

Sulecrist posted:

I bought my friend the Wraithguard/Wraithblade kit for Christmas because he's been talking about them for a while. He is now trying to decide how to build them. Any suggestions?

To the extent that they are in a Wave Serpent, it will be the only Wave Serpent in his army.

As neat as Wraithblades are, I don't think you can make a very good argument for them- they tear poo poo up in combat (S6 AP3 on T6/3+ dudes is rough) but the Wave Serpent not being an assault vehicle means they are hard-pressed to get into a fight most times. Wraithguard are a lot better; if your buddy is worried about Knights or other heavy targets I would say go with the Wraithcannons (which are probably the better of the two guns overall), but if he has a hate on for infantry targets the D-Scythes are actually really brutal as well and aren't worthless against other stuff. (Plus they make the squad almost impossible to charge.) In either case, seriously consider shoving Vectored Engines on their transport so you can eke out the little bit of extra disembarking distance without exposing rear armor.

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

BuffaloChicken posted:

Those old-school Nids rule... awesome job! Only question though, what's with the varied basing styles? Are you going for a mixed look, or are they still in progress?

Finally finished up some Squats. Well, almost finished. Photos always reveal some things that need neatening up.

Inquisitor with Conversion Beamer. The big cannon "conversion beamer" is just a marker, with all LOS etc. drawn from the Squat. I'll use it variously as an objective or emplaced useable weapon in games without the Inquisitor. He's definitely getting another black wash on the beard and some blacklining around the copper face medallions.



He'll be in the unit with his two assistants (play as Jokaero), who I've had made for a while. I had to shuffle my lists when the new Inquisition and GK Codexes came out.



Here's the Librarian Scrunt Squat Runemaster, playing as a GK Librarian. He'll have an entire unit of Terminator Scrunts Exo-Armour Squats in the future.



And, finally, one last guy who is still a work in progress - needs a grenade in that hand, for example, and I might greenstuff some more details. I don't really know what to field him as in my army lists, but I truly hope some of you recognize the character.



This is awesome. You're awesome.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you

SRM posted:

You. You are my kind of ham. These look dope. What's next for the retro bugs?

Depends on how badly AusPost wants to gently caress him over for shipping to the US :v:

e: Rough count is 1 old Tyrant, 2 Eggs-On-Legs, 3 old Lictors, 7 old Gargoyles, most of 2 metal Warriors and about two dozen purple Stealers.

ee:

quote:

And, finally, one last guy who is still a work in progress - needs a grenade in that hand, for example, and I might greenstuff some more details. I don't really know what to field him as in my army lists, but I truly hope some of you recognize the character.


Counts-as Marb-

Oh.


Ohh.

adamantium|wang fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Dec 19, 2014

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

BuffaloChicken posted:

And, finally, one last guy who is still a work in progress - needs a grenade in that hand, for example, and I might greenstuff some more details. I don't really know what to field him as in my army lists, but I truly hope some of you recognize the character.


Your 21st century Squats are such a cool and unique army, but this guy. This loving guy. You just need to drill the barrel of that bolter lazer!

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007


This poo poo right here.

edit: Your cyber squats are cool too.

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Australia cares about cunts. Including this one.

AbusePuppy posted:

Actually it's legit- he's not using two CADs, he's using one plus a unique army detachment (the Company of the Great Wolf), which is doable even in LVO

Really? I double checked the LVO rules and they didn't address faction specific detachments.

This changes everything. :stare:

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

spacegoat posted:

Crosspostin'.

Been busy lately.




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202 points-base, down :smithicide:
Oh man. You've completely nailed that scheme. :allears:


The squats are awesome and this is awesome. I hope you figure out a use for this guy. Maybe Straken or some sort of inquisitor?

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

spacegoat posted:

Crosspostin'.

Been busy lately.



202 points-base, down :smithicide:

Posting pictures from White Dwarf 20 years ago is cheating :colbert:

Hencoe posted:

Do it anyways, it's not like it's a competition and that hierophant you did looked good.

Cheers. We're on a slightly less ambitious scale this time. :)

Picking up Deathstorm left me with a minor dilemma, as I already owned dozens of old-style Warriors and Shrikes on 40mm bases. I like having my Nids look consistent, so I hate mismatched conversions and base sizes. As the new Warriors are a great kit, I figured the best way to put them to use was to make 3 Primes with them all on the new bases to make them stand out. After remembering I bought some Instant Mold a while ago, it was easy to duplicate the shoulder guards, back funnels and tail spikes. It only took a bit of clipping to get them to fit onto the regular bodies. Now I just need to dig out my files and tidy them up a bit.




Now that I have 3 Primes in the same style, I've un-converted the one I made when the 5E codex came out a few years ago turning him back into a regular Warrior, and used the spare melee arms to finish off my last 3 Shrikes. Thanks to this one kit I've rounded out a full ~1850pts of Primes, Warriors and Shrikes, so here's hoping the next codex makes them a bit better (or at least cheaper) :smith:

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Apr 14, 2010
The amount of catty sniping where people are talking about each other instead of talking about warhams makes a number of users seem like a panel on The View.

MasterSlowPoke posted:



Does it look alright or does it look like I rolled a Necrosphynx around in a bits box? I kinda imagine the gauntlets he's wearing are Canoptek Shackles, which control and limit its power.

The top half looks great. The mix of bits from the two games is cohesive, not at all like, "Hurf I put a pistol on a Dark Elf and now he's my Archon." The fire-tornado of his bottom half seems far too small, though.

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