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Eric the Mauve posted:Geniuses die. A lot. Even by medieval standards. No one likes a smartass. The Subterfuge Path is really good, I spied on a troublesome Vassal and very quickly I had all sorts of poo poo for which I could legally imprison them and take their titles. I even got the option to abduct them, but I didn't do it because I wasn't entirely sure what'd happen and abducting my own Vassals was probably not the best plan. I'll have to try it on someone nobody will care about. Unfortunately it'll have to wait because that king caught syphilis went barmy and then died. Leaving his five year old son in charge of the kingdom. I'm sure he'll be fine. Fans fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Dec 19, 2014 |
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I wish this didn't crash half the time I try to load a game. I'm savescumming trying to learn the game a bit(getting better too!) and it does this so much. I've played random Irish guys now a few times and getting better and quicker at becoming king. Learning my mistakes as I go.
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Dec 19, 2014 05:15
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Hoof. So it's a little chancey trying to seduce people as a female ruler, because if your target is in command (or in hiding or whatever), it'll basically just skip the attempt to try again 20 days later. But the AI loves staying in command indefinitely, and there's no way to STOP trying unless you actually get an attempt. So you can easily get stuck permanently trying to seduce someone who's just hanging out with his troops forever.
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Dec 19, 2014 05:31
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What's the requirement for having a Trade Post CB as a Patrician against another Patrician? Besides them having a trade post, obviously. I can't seem to figure out why I can declare war on one guy for his trade posts but not on another guy of similar standing who also has some trading posts I want. Also when I eventually become Doge, is there a way to grab Patrician's trading posts? Or are you forced to let them build wherever they want in exchange for them not being able to declare war on you?
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Dec 19, 2014 06:13
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Kawalimus posted:I wish this didn't crash half the time I try to load a game. I'm savescumming trying to learn the game a bit(getting better too!) and it does this so much. I've played random Irish guys now a few times and getting better and quicker at becoming king. Learning my mistakes as I go. You can learn a ton just by digging yourself out of your problems instead of reloading. Some of my most badass games were when everything collapsed and I ended up losing everything & going about either getting vengeance or everything back & more some other way. I assume you're playing the reload game because you care about your game & want it to go well. Use that energy instead to find a way to kill every last child in the house that wronged you. Hell, you can wipe an entire culture off the map if you want. Once I eliminated the Irish because they killed my first king. No more Irish.
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Dec 19, 2014 06:50
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Is anyone else getting bugs with troops being hostile when they shouldn't be?
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Dec 19, 2014 07:41
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StashAugustine posted:Is anyone else getting bugs with troops being hostile when they shouldn't be?
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VDay posted:What's the requirement for having a Trade Post CB as a Patrician against another Patrician? Besides them having a trade post, obviously. I can't seem to figure out why I can declare war on one guy for his trade posts but not on another guy of similar standing who also has some trading posts I want. Unless they changed it, you also have to have less trading posts than the person you want to seize one from. (And I think you're also disallowed from seizing trade posts completely, if you're Doge/Grand Mayor, right? I could be wrong on that one, though)
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Dec 19, 2014 08:13
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I tried playing out as good ol Ireland in the CM starting period and WOW everyone just immediately declares war on you if you try to expand your territory. Rude.
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Dec 19, 2014 09:32
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Did they ever fix the problem with the mega caliphates that happened with CM DLC? I haven't kept up with the game since then because it was making it unplayable for me.
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Dec 19, 2014 09:35
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Fans posted:No one likes a smartass. No one cares if you abduct someone. They just wind up in your prison, you can release/execute/banish as normal but will incur tyranny if you do so, otherwise the imprisonment is free.
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Dec 19, 2014 10:04
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If you didn't hate SWMH already, the HIP team had to remove it from their compilation mod as SWMH was spawning courtiers every single day non-stop in game for each court, causing absolutely enormous lag problems
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Dec 19, 2014 10:35
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I'm not sure if this has been raised already, but uh, my character/Empress doesn't seem to be able to break up with one of her lovers post-seduction, after he gave me a bastard. (using the diplo option, that is) It's becoming slightly urgent for me, as he has contracted syphilis somewhere along the way, and I don't exactly want my character to pick that up off him, if there happen to be further "encounters" between the two.
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Dec 19, 2014 10:46
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Jedit posted:Crusader Kings II: Too Many Cucks. Die.
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Dec 19, 2014 10:57
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Doctor Reynolds posted:I tried playing out as good ol Ireland in the CM starting period and WOW everyone just immediately declares war on you if you try to expand your territory. Rude. Did you attack the Ua Niall's or whatever that clan that owns half of Ireland is called?
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Dec 19, 2014 11:01
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Major Isoor posted:I'm not sure if this has been raised already, but uh, my character/Empress doesn't seem to be able to break up with one of her lovers post-seduction, after he gave me a bastard. (using the diplo option, that is) It's becoming slightly urgent for me, as he has contracted syphilis somewhere along the way, and I don't exactly want my character to pick that up off him, if there happen to be further "encounters" between the two. God's punishment? You could always have him killed to avoid the awkward break up talk, this is CK2 after all
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Dec 19, 2014 11:25
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Yeah, trying to break up with your lover seems a little broken at the moment. The description actually says something like, "[Your lover's name] will break up with [your lover's name]," and doesn't accomplish anything.
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Dec 19, 2014 11:31
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Did holy orders get buffed recently? I've been trying to play a Norse game lately and every tiny little Christian shithole punches way above their weight due to their interference.
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Dec 19, 2014 11:40
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Sharzak posted:Wait so in order to convert to Feudalism, I need to Reform my Germanic faith, which requires 3 of 5 holy sites that are flung far and wide. It doesn't seem feasible to do this anytime soon--is there a way around this? I'd really rather not have to conquer my way through Sweden and northern Germany. Either that, or start as Hafdan Whiteshirt, as it's the only non-doomed Feudal Germanic start.
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My first game after Way of Life, my thoughts are mixed on the new interface. The new character screen is much better, quite an improvement. But the new diplomacy window is kinda weird: first of all, where the hell is the close button?? Second, why cant I drag it (in fact, trying to drag it seems to be the only way to close it)? And once again, I was hoping for some new much necessary map modes (a "your vassals" map mode and a cultural map mode), but nope. As for the new WoL events and stuff, are they only for catholics? Ive started a slavic tribal game and I havent seem much difference yet, apart from the new "focus" thing. EDIT: vvvvvvvvvvvvv where are the seduction options? I could not find any Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Dec 19, 2014 |
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Dec 19, 2014 12:39
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Another seduction question: I've tried seducing the aging genius pious/theology-obsessed King of Sweden, except it's been around two years and no events have fired - is it possible to back out of attempting to seduce a particular person? (Other than killing him - since all the people I seem to pick as lovers are apparently well regarded by all) Or will I need to either wait until he dies, or pick another focus, wait for years, then pick seduction again? Thanks
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Dec 19, 2014 12:53
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Elias_Maluco posted:My first game after Way of Life, my thoughts are mixed on the new interface. Its a popup menu, you are not supposed to drag it, its not a window. You don't try to drag around the right-click menu you have in a browser do you? Also you mean the "Direct Vassals" and "Culture" map mode that already exist? Then for the WoL events, all the WoL events are bound to focuses yes.
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Dec 19, 2014 12:55
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Groogy posted:Its a popup menu, you are not supposed to drag it, its not a window. You don't try to drag around the right-click menu you have in a browser do you? Is quite big for a popup menu (specially with two boxes) and it gets in the way of things. I think it would be a lot better if it was treated like a window, draggable and with a proper close button, like all other windows. Groogy posted:Also you mean the "Direct Vassals" and "Culture" map mode that already exist? Nope: "Direct Vassals" will only show your vassals if you are independent. There is no map mode to see your own vassal when you are a vassal yourself, which makes playing a vassal harder, when you get big enough and you have to worry about your own internal politics. As for the "culture" one, guess I have missed it all this time. I will look for it, thanks. Groogy posted:Then for the WoL events, all the WoL events are bound to focuses yes. No, I mean all those seduction options and stuff people have been talking about, I havent seen any in my game yet. EDIT: vvvvvv so in order to be able to use seduce, I have to pick the appropriate focus? Ok, thanks Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Dec 19, 2014 |
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Dec 19, 2014 13:03
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Elias_Maluco posted:No, I mean all those seduction options and stuff people have been talking about, I havent seen any in my game yet. Yes, they are bound to focuses, you have to pick a focus in order to for instance construct an observatory you have to pick the scholar focus, etc. etc. And seduction is done through the new diplomacy interface since we now allow kind of scripting your own diplomatic interactions through special kind of decisions.
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Groogy posted:Its a popup menu, you are not supposed to drag it, its not a window. You don't try to drag around the right-click menu you have in a browser do you? It would be infinitely better if it went away when you clicked something else like the right-click menu, as it is it generally pops up in an awkward part of the screen and doesn't close when you expect it to.
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Dec 19, 2014 13:47
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Fender posted:You can learn a ton just by digging yourself out of your problems instead of reloading. Some of my most badass games were when everything collapsed and I ended up losing everything & going about either getting vengeance or everything back & more some other way. I assume you're playing the reload game because you care about your game & want it to go well. Use that energy instead to find a way to kill every last child in the house that wronged you. Hell, you can wipe an entire culture off the map if you want. Once I eliminated the Irish because they killed my first king. No more Irish. I probably should just bite the bullet on a lot of them. What often happens is my guy I'm playing will be pretty decent but then his heir will be awful and my land and poo poo will be hosed. And I have no intrigue or whatever so I can't just stab someone. Then half the time if I do some idiot spills the beans and the whole world hates me. I should probably take my lumps more often and work through them, just I don't know how a typical game is "supposed" to look yet. I should probably skim through a few let's plays from good players and get a sense of how things go and if I'm really screwing up or if those things just happen. I also do dumb stuff like create the wrong duchy or don't see something right and think I need to get level 4 legalism or whatever in order to get out of tribalism and into feudalism or switch from tribalism to feudalism too quick and I can't do that cool tribe raising thing. So I save scum and just keep playing the "early game" over and over to smooth out these dumb mistakes.
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Kawalimus: Here's the thing to remember about CK2. You CAN play to win, and you can pretty consistently win once you grok the mechanics. But the game has so much replay value because losing can be so much fun!
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Eric the Mauve posted:Kawalimus: Here's the thing to remember about CK2. You CAN play to win, and you can pretty consistently win once you grok the mechanics. But the game has so much replay value because losing can be so much fun! Yeah I've had some fun sometimes I die and my successors wife hates him so much because he has a million lovers and I pretty much just openly did stuff with them all until I pissed enough people off they finally killed me then I quit that game cause the next in line or whatever was just crap. Any consensus on what the best "focuses" are? I use Carousing most of the time but in games I often become a creature of habit and fail to try new things. Cause I need something to get these bishops to like me more than the stupid pope and that will often get their opinions of me to 100 for the ones that even granting the titles or educate child or gifts or whatever fail to do.
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Dec 19, 2014 14:56
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Nobody Interesting posted:No one cares if you abduct someone. They just wind up in your prison, you can release/execute/banish as normal but will incur tyranny if you do so, otherwise the imprisonment is free.  Time to jail all dissenters and create my CK2 North Korea.
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The 'break up' diplomacy option for lovers is bugged and doesn't work. It's impossible to end affairs unless you do it via event.
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ThomasPaine posted:The 'break up' diplomacy option for lovers is bugged and doesn't work. It's impossible to end affairs unless you do it via event. Oh, that's not the only way to end affairs... 
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Dec 19, 2014 16:08
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Last night I was one percentage point of moral authority away from being able to reform West African paganism with an easy to raid mosque next door. Then my king died and elective Gavelkind not only gave my capital to my second son, it destroyed the entire kingdom of Mali. Anyway, reforming the faith seems very doable in the CM start if you beeline towards the northern holy sites before the Umayyads get to them.
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Man, my current guy's rival is my little brother's mentally disabled friend, who actually somehow LIKES my character. I've got -100 for him to his +52 for me. I hate him so much for no real reason. I've actually got some genuine, real life dislike for my player character going on right now.
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Dec 19, 2014 17:24
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Hey Groogy, you guys know about the bug that makes it impossible to demobilize levies from the menu, right? It would be pretty minor except that it paralyzes the AI by making them unable to go to war.
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Fuligin posted:Hey Groogy, you guys know about the bug that makes it impossible to demobilize levies from the menu, right? It would be pretty minor except that it paralyzes the AI by making them unable to go to war. that might explain why a HRE count has -167 opinion from 'raised levies' against his AI liege in my game
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Dec 19, 2014 18:11
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Fans posted:
It's still 5 gold and a pretty slim chance of success, but it's nice to have the option there. Also the assassinations never seem to get linked to you unless they fail. Spy On is pretty overpowered, all things considered.
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Dec 19, 2014 18:49
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Ofaloaf, thank you for silencing Erik W in the Migration Period mod.
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Raserys posted:Ofaloaf, thank you for silencing Erik W in the Migration Period mod. Actually, has he done any modding, or is he just loud and outspoken and no one wants to cuss him out of that project's circle? I don't recall him actually making anything or proposing a good idea, but my opinion of him's rather biased at this point and I'm just a bit salty about that mod's developments in general.
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Bleh. Since retinues were nerfed essentially to uselessness, going to war as an empire just isn't particularly fun. Painfully gathering together all my troops for like half a year after the declaration of war, managing boats to get the ones that are from the other side of the mediterranean...kinda sucks, particularly when it's to take a single de-jure province or to fight off another liberation revolt.
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Ofaloaf posted:"I don't want it released until it's perfect" is the one of the worst positions a modder can take. A mod will never be perfect. It's dumb. I'm pretty sure Eric W is just a beta tester and nothing more.
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