|
Munin posted:Having read through a chunk of his article he does make it a theme and hence it does make sense in context. Still stupidly overwrought. The odd word choice really reminds me of a quote that I heard one time describing people with Asperger's syndrome as "brilliant collectors of information, albeit without the capacity for synthesis." He clearly has some idea of what those words mean, but he doesn't appear to realize that good writing needs to connect with and engage the reader in some fashion. Instead, he's just using those words to keep up his facade of intellect.
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 17:49
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 8, 2024 20:33 |
|
|
Melopepo is a kind of squash, google tells me. Squash-headed, maybe? I hope, for this guy's sake, that he's just hopelessly far up his own rear end in a top hat and not actually disabled. 
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 17:56
|
|
|
They saw REAL philosophers use big words sometimes so therefore if they act like that people will recognize them as real philosophers. Which is funny in its own right, because a huge part of philosophy that I've noticed is trying to condense an argument down into its most basic elements and express them simply so there's very little ambiguity and much less surface area for counter-arguments to latch on to. Also melopepocephalic: melo - "song" according to Munin pepo - Latin / Ancient Greek for "a large melon" cephalic - Having the specified type of head or brain So... song-melon head? Singing melon head maybe? EDIT: "melopepo" as a single root being a squash makes more sense - squash-headed like LordSaturn said Shame Boy has a new favorite as of 18:02 on Dec 18, 2014 |
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 17:58
|
|
|
Namarrgon posted:I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or not and if it isn't what it even means. It doesn't seem to get much better. There was a short-lived tendency in NRx to believe that humanity can be divided into the descendants of neanderthals and descendants of non-neanderthals. Yes really
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 18:02
|
|
|
Melon heads were possible aliens I think? It was really weird and really dumb. More here http://www.koanicsoul.com/blog/reading-faces-the-eyes-are-the-windows-to-the-soul/
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 18:04
|
|
|
Parallel Paraplegic posted:They saw REAL philosophers use big words sometimes so therefore if they act like that people will recognize them as real philosophers. Which is funny in its own right, because a huge part of philosophy that I've noticed is trying to condense an argument down into its most basic elements and express them simply so there's very little ambiguity and much less surface area for counter-arguments to latch on to. Looking at it naively it means having some characteristics of the melon-headed dolphin. What type of people this is supposed to denote I have no idea.
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 18:08
|
|
|
Munin posted:Looking at it naively it means having some characteristics of the melon-headed dolphin. What type of people this is supposed to denote I have no idea. Nope, see my above post! Your brain wasn't working on the right wavelength of stupid
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 18:09
|
|
|
Polybius91 posted:You get that a lot with DE/neoreactionary types. I tried reading some Moldbug out of morbid curiosity the other day, but I didn't get very far before his droning, meandering tone made my eyes slide off the screen. If I know fascists, it has something to do with them believing that actually writing things that people have the patience to read is giving in to some sort of modern intellectual degeneracy. Put him in a trenchcoat and jackboots and the stormtroopers would lynch him instead.
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 18:13
|
|
|
A bloviating neofascist is a pretty good choice to write a potted history of LF, really.
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 22:30
|
|
|
The Vosgian Beast posted:https://nydwracu.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/guest-post-pthag-on-the-history-of-sa-politics/
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 23:30
|
|
|
SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I hate it how they late words we're all familiar with, give them totally different definitions, then just run with it and assume you understand. What the hell is the difference between a 'leftist' and a 'liberal'? Apparently leftists are awesome and you should totally aspire to be one, but liberals are terrible shitheads you should hate. Aren't they synonyms? I assume they're using more european definition of Liberal, where it's more associated with limited government than the American usage.
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 23:35
|
|
|
SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I hate it how they late words we're all familiar with, give them totally different definitions, then just run with it and assume you understand. What the hell is the difference between a 'leftist' and a 'liberal'? Apparently leftists are awesome and you should totally aspire to be one, but liberals are terrible shitheads you should hate. Aren't they synonyms? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics You can in fact be "Liberal" and yet not "Leftist" by certain definitions of the terms. 
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 23:37
|
|
|
Right, yeah. Outside the U.S., 'liberal' often means 'socially-acceptable libertarian'. Since the U.S. doesn't have a firmly-established or well-supported tradition of outright socialist thought, liberals are the closest things the country has to a major, visible left wing.
Darth Walrus has a new favorite as of 23:45 on Dec 18, 2014 |
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 23:42
|
|
|
Darth Walrus posted:Right, yeah. Outside the U.S., 'liberal' often means 'socially-acceptable libertarian'. Since the U.S. doesn't have a firmly-established or well-supported tradition of outright socialist thought, liberals are the closest things the country has to a major, visible left wing. Hahaha sorry eugene debs you dont exist
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2014 23:58
|
|
|
Baracula posted:Hahaha sorry eugene debs you dont exist Well, no. He's been dead for ninety years. The labour movement in America is pretty much dead and buried, and the more left-wing of the two electable parties, the Democrats, certainly don't have a tremendous amount of interest in it.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 00:31
|
|
|
Polybius91 posted:You get that a lot with DE/neoreactionary types. I tried reading some Moldbug out of morbid curiosity the other day, but I didn't get very far before his droning, meandering tone made my eyes slide off the screen. If I know fascists, it has something to do with them believing that actually writing things that people have the patience to read is giving in to some sort of modern intellectual degeneracy. I've always assumed the writing is terrible and longwinded so only people who already agree with their worldview will actually read it. And then they can dismiss any criticism with "you didn't even read these fifty pages of word salad, so you have no right to disagree"
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 00:43
|
|
|
Qwertycoatl posted:I've always assumed the writing is terrible and longwinded so only people who already agree with their worldview will actually read it. And then they can dismiss any criticism with "you didn't even read these fifty pages of word salad, so you have no right to disagree" I find Moldbug perfectly readable without agreeing with his worldview. (On the other hand, Carlyle, who Moldbug is such a big fan of, was genuinely unreadable.)
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 01:17
|
|
|
Baracula posted:Hahaha sorry eugene debs you dont exist Yes that was the general reaction when he was alive and especially for the last 70 years.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 01:19
|
|
|
SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I hate it how they late words we're all familiar with, give them totally different definitions, then just run with it and assume you understand. What the hell is the difference between a 'leftist' and a 'liberal'? Apparently leftists are awesome and you should totally aspire to be one, but liberals are terrible shitheads you should hate. Aren't they synonyms? In addition to what others have said, the formal definition of Liberal differs a lot from the American colloquial usage. The definition on wikipedia is: quote:Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty (which is especially stressed in classical liberalism) and equality (which is more evident in social liberalism).[1] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas such as free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and private property. Both the main American parties are liberal. The Republicans fall under Conservative Liberalism, and both American parties seem to follow neoliberalism to a fair degree. While left liberalism is also a thing, neither of the American Parties really subscribe to it. Edit: So beaten. Tiberius Thyben has a new favorite as of 01:28 on Dec 19, 2014 |
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 01:24
|
|
|
SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I hate it how they late words we're all familiar with, give them totally different definitions, then just run with it and assume you understand. What the hell is the difference between a 'leftist' and a 'liberal'? Apparently leftists are awesome and you should totally aspire to be one, but liberals are terrible shitheads you should hate. Aren't they synonyms? Come on, don't tell me you've never listened to Love Me, I'm a Liberal before.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 01:27
|
|
|
Also if he is coming from a Maoist view then you have the whole combat liberalism thing as well: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm The Vosgian Beast posted:Nope, see my above post! Your brain wasn't working on the right wavelength of stupid I just had a look at your link and it was a vision of madness. Koanic Soul posted:Cro-Magnon man began in Africa, another dull hominid going nowhere, until the Melonheads decided that the Neanderthal threat had to be dealt with. After several other attempts failed due to Neanderthal robustness and cave-dwelling survivability, they hit upon the plan of creating a genetically engineered slave army to overwhelm the Neanderthals in their home territory.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 13:42
|
|
|
Munin posted:I just had a look at your link and it was a vision of madness. This is like Fundamentalist Tolkeinism.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 14:21
|
|
|
The Vosgian Beast posted:Nope, see my above post! Your brain wasn't working on the right wavelength of stupid quote:If you were to examine the back of the Amud’s head in profile, you would see the characteristic bulge in the lower back. This expanded region is a visual center, and gives Amud Neanderthals their literal, truth-minded bent. The world is seen with optical unambiguity. This also leads to obsessive focus, visionary mad dreams, and excessive objectivity, to the point of social handicap in dysfunctional cases.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 15:40
|
|
|
The Vosgian Beast posted:Melon heads were possible aliens I think? It was really weird and really dumb. More here http://www.koanicsoul.com/blog/reading-faces-the-eyes-are-the-windows-to-the-soul/ This is the Nation of Islam origin story of white people with the races reversed: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam)
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 16:47
|
|
|
Jack Gladney posted:Yes that was the general reaction when he was alive and especially for the last 70 years. Haha yes what presidential campaign? ? a million votes pfft whatever. no socialist tradition E: sorry wobblies you must be misremembering it ContinuityNewTimes has a new favorite as of 16:57 on Dec 19, 2014 |
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 16:49
|
|
|
Baracula posted:Haha yes what presidential campaign? ? a million votes pfft whatever. no socialist tradition 6% of the total votes cast is not really all that impressive, especially considering that it was 102 years ago. A high point of 6% is not a tradition.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 18:25
|
|
|
nucleicmaxid posted:6% of the total votes cast is not really all that impressive, especially considering that it was 102 years ago. A high point of 6% is not a tradition. maybe you'd be right if that high point (which is actually very impressive! ) came out of nowhere but it didn't and you arent. e: and its not like the groups involved disappeared after ContinuityNewTimes has a new favorite as of 18:37 on Dec 19, 2014 |
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 18:30
|
|
|
Munin posted:I just had a look at your link and it was a vision of madness. Ironically there is some genetic evidence of intermarriage between early modern humans and neanderthals, however its only present in people who's ancestors lived side by side with neanderthals, aka white people. I supposed that means we should give up our dreams of world domination and bow down to the innate genetic superiority of the other races. Unless , for some reason Dark Enlightenment thinkers mean something else when they talk about violent neanderthal descended individuals.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 18:43
|
|
|
Vorpal Cat posted:Ironically there is some genetic evidence of intermarriage between early modern humans and neanderthals, however its only present in people who's ancestors lived side by side with neanderthals, aka white people. I supposed that means we should give up our dreams of world domination and bow down to the innate genetic superiority of the other races. Unless , for some reason Dark Enlightenment thinkers mean something else when they talk about violent neanderthal descended individuals. Other way around. He's saying Neanderthal-descended people are the superior ones (literally because Neanderthals had prettier faces than Cro-Magnons).
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 18:48
|
|
|
Silver2195 posted:Other way around. He's saying Neanderthal-descended people are the superior ones (literally because Neanderthals had prettier faces than Cro-Magnons). I know we're not supposed to bring people's personal lives into this, but now I really wanna see this guy's photo.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 18:53
|
|
|
Silver2195 posted:Other way around. He's saying Neanderthal-descended people are the superior ones (literally because Neanderthals had prettier faces than Cro-Magnons). There's something about autism in there too, that normals are vicious while noble autists lack the capacity for cruelty or deception.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 19:03
|
|
|
Darth Walrus posted:I know we're not supposed to bring people's personal lives into this, but now I really wanna see this guy's photo.  http://www.koanicsoul.com/blog/the-neander-hall-members-only/ Koanic Soul posted:Nasal size I link to intention-based adult style deliberateness in interaction style, versus juvenile emotional spontaneity in interaction style. The latter feels more genuine, and the latter less so. Hence the stereotype of long noses as liars/manipulators. See e.g. Nixon. Even when he told the truth, it felt like he was lying.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 19:07
|
|
|
Holy poo poo snacks, this dude is a most delicious slice of banana-cake. Thanks for bring him to our attention!
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 19:32
|
|
|
The comparison between Helldump and LF and a Maoist purge is kind of interesting, but it requires you to assume that LF was the main reason for Helldump's existence.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 20:09
|
|
|
Didn't Helldump precede LF or am I misremembering?
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 20:21
|
|
|
uber_stoat posted:Holy poo poo snacks, this dude is a most delicious slice of banana-cake. Thanks for bring him to our attention! While reading, make sure to remember that a good portion of neoreaction actually fell for this.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 20:51
|
|
|
Peel posted:Didn't Helldump precede LF or am I misremembering? It did. Helldump affected D&D, which may have affected the creation of LF.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 22:18
|
|
|
Oh man I got a Harvard prospecting letter due to my PSAT score (motherfucking perfect score bitches  ) but it wasn't like, offering me a scholarship or anything it was just like "hey apply to Harvard maybe you can earn the opportunity to give us all your money" and I certainly didn't burn it to subvert the jewish illuminati or whatever. This guy's a winner.
|
|
#
?
Dec 20, 2014 05:44
|
|
|
Land released a new fictiony-looking book on kindle yesterday, merry xmas thread: http://www.amazon.com/Phyl-Undhu-Abstract-Exterminator-Nick-Land-ebook/dp/B00R9Y4MLI
|
|
#
?
Dec 21, 2014 15:15
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 8, 2024 20:33 |
|
|
Rides Naked posted:Land released a new fictiony-looking book on kindle yesterday, merry xmas thread: Does he take bitcoins for his book?
|
|
#
?
Dec 21, 2014 21:14
|
|