|
Fucknag posted:They refused it because they saw the original design and saw that it could be improved by making it less complicated, which just wouldn't do at all. When wankel saw the revised design he said 'You've turned my thoroughbred into a pack mule!' or something to that effect.
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 03:01
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 17:46 |
|
|
1500quidporsche posted:VAG gets their own special category for german engineering. Their engines defy all logic and reality but run perfectly fine so long as the electrics haven't failed yet. Every company has their own engineering mantra in some form or another. VAG's just happens to summon one of the Old Ones if spoken by insufficiently trained.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 03:55
|
|
|
MrYenko posted:When talking about odd-ball engineering solutions, the answer is always the Germans. It would take me at least a week to get all those cables connected to the distributor in the right order. edit - phone posting and I actually zoomed in, haha there's two dizzy's on it. I'd never get it out of the driveway.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 04:29
|
|
|
 original content... taken in Missouri of course
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 08:24
|
|
|
`Nemesis posted:
Wow, those BMW i3's do look like they're hiding the back end of another car in them.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 08:30
|
|
|
Fucknag posted:Well obviously it would have been too wide then. What are you, a loving moron or something? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_Berlinetta_Boxer
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 10:15
|
|
|
Interesting combination of messages.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 11:34
|
|
|
Anti-peta bible thumper with diarrhea that shops at Hot Topic.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 12:00
|
|
|
1500quidporsche posted:VAG gets their own special category for german engineering. Their engines defy all logic and reality but run perfectly fine so long as the electrics haven't failed yet. Don't forget about the VR engines. 
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 14:10
|
|
|
 Let me just park my piece of poo poo perpendicularly when there's more than enough space to do it like a normal person 
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 14:48
|
|
|
Weren't those designed to park that way so more cars can fit on the street? Not that it's legal in a lot of places.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 15:10
|
|
|
JazzmasterCurious posted:Not just the Germans, as stated above, but also those crazy Italians. quote:others I was trying to be facetious, you know.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 15:55
|
|
|
Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:I still can't believe that goddamn fan was enough to cool that thing. Can you imagine how much heat that thing must put out at WOT? It wasn't just that fan, there were also giant oil coolers and something like 20 liters of oil in the sump. Even the air cooled 911s had relatively stupid amounts of oil coursing around them- a 993 needs like 10 quarts for an oil change.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 16:04
|
|
|
10 quarts isn't all that insane these days.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 16:19
|
|
|
mobby_6kl posted:
It's as long as the others are wide, who cares?
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 17:39
|
|
|
PCOS Bill posted:It's as long as the others are wide, who cares? Everyone on the road when he tries to back that poo poo straight into traffic.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 17:43
|
|
|
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321616690332
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 18:59
|
|
|
I'm torn between: Interstate 76 looked poo poo with low polygon count And: Nice papercraft, what's it meant to be? Either way That's not worth £500.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 19:05
|
|
|
PCOS Bill posted:It's as long as the others are wide, who cares? It's about 2-3ft longer than the Jetta.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 19:06
|
|
|
BlackMK4 posted:10 quarts isn't all that insane these days. If anything 10 quarts isn't enough - my M3's V8 (displacing 4.0L) with its twin pump oiling system required 9 liters of oil. The Viper's V10 displacing 8.4L only requires 11L of oil. This bothers me.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 19:55
|
|
|
Das Volk posted:If anything 10 quarts isn't enough - my M3's V8 (displacing 4.0L) with its twin pump oiling system required 9 liters of oil. The Viper's V10 displacing 8.4L only requires 11L of oil. This bothers me. My 6.4L V8 only requires 4.5L of oil and hasn't blown up yet.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 20:26
|
|
|
Slavvy posted:When wankel saw the revised design he said 'You've turned my thoroughbred into a pack mule!' or something to that effect.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 20:33
|
|
|
Das Volk posted:If anything 10 quarts isn't enough - my M3's V8 (displacing 4.0L) with its twin pump oiling system required 9 liters of oil. The Viper's V10 displacing 8.4L only requires 11L of oil. This bothers me. The BMW took nearly as much oil because it has overhead cams which requires pumping more oil to the heads. The viper only has one cam and half the valves and rockers to lubricate per cylinder.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 20:44
|
|
|
jamal posted:The BMW took nearly as much oil because it has overhead cams which requires pumping more oil to the heads. The viper only has one cam and half the valves and rockers to lubricate per cylinder. What I'm really getting at is a wet sump is not an adequate lubrication solution for that motor in my opinion.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 20:59
|
|
|
Speaking of BMWs and inadequate oiling. I knew a guy with an E36 that swore up and down that his dealer had a special oil that only needed to be changed once a year despite him driving it regularly. Meanwhile huge clouds of blue smoke came out whenever this thing started up.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 21:05
|
|
|
Das Volk posted:What I'm really getting at is a wet sump is not an adequate lubrication solution for that motor in my opinion. I didn't realize and am somewhat shocked that the Viper motor is wet sump. Was/is dry sump an option/standard, perhaps on one of the hotted up varieties, like the TA?
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 21:10
|
|
|
Das Volk posted:What I'm really getting at is a wet sump is not an adequate lubrication solution for that motor in my opinion. The viper isn't OHC so there isn't really much point. DOHC engines tend to have inflated oil capacities because so much of it is tied up in the heads lubing the cams and lifters and timing chain (if present). I was amazed at how little oil a 3.8 GM v6 takes compared to a toyota 2GR-FE or nissan VQ35.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 22:36
|
|
|
Slavvy posted:The viper isn't OHC so there isn't really much point. DOHC engines tend to have inflated oil capacities because so much of it is tied up in the heads lubing the cams and lifters and timing chain (if present). I was amazed at how little oil a 3.8 GM v6 takes compared to a toyota 2GR-FE or nissan VQ35. Either way, referring to displacement numbers for comparison is rather odd. The volume of combustion chamber has no relevance to the amount of fluids elsewhere.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 23:12
|
|
|
mobby_6kl posted:
That's, uh, kind of the point of having a smart car, this is extremely common in european cities. There was probably a different car parked where the black opel or whatever is in front there when the smart car arrived.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 23:18
|
|
|
Nitrox posted:Corvette is dry sump, but I suspect it's for packaging reasons. Yeah. I was making my comparison on the basis of them all being large v6 engines in comparable vehicles (commodore, aurion, maxima). From what I can tell, you need more oil for SOHC than OHV, then more still for DOHC, then even more for DOHC with chain driven cams and VVTI. On a pushrod engine the oil is all concentrated down the bottom where the important bits are; the rocker arms seem to be able to live with splash lubrication and not much else. In OHC engines there are spinning bearing surfaces and sliding, close-fitting parts in the cylinder head so oil needs to be forced up there in substantial quantities to keep everything kosher. This seems to be backed up by early OHC engines having head oiling issues regardless of make. M10/M30 BMW springs to mind.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 23:30
|
|
|
Ether Frenzy posted:That's, uh, kind of the point of having a smart car, this is extremely common in european cities. There was probably a different car parked where the black opel or whatever is in front there when the smart car arrived.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 23:35
|
|
|
Counterpoint: US drivers will likely be texting and hit the car anyhow, even with the wider roads since driver training in the US primarily consists of "Can you find the DMV? Yes? Here's a license"
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2014 23:44
|
|
|
Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:IIRC his original design required disassembling almost the entire engine to replace the spark plugs. Germans had a problem with that?
|
|
#
?
Dec 20, 2014 00:53
|
|
|
will.i.am strikes again.
|
|
#
?
Dec 20, 2014 00:55
|
|
|
Powershift posted:will.i.am strikes again.
|
|
#
?
Dec 20, 2014 01:18
|
|
|
Uthor posted:Germans had a problem with that?
|
|
#
?
Dec 20, 2014 03:27
|
|
|
InitialDave posted:It's not that bad. No, but it's Top Gear bad.
|
|
#
?
Dec 20, 2014 03:42
|
|
|
 Seems like this particular bro dude didn't have enough money for 5 ridiculous rims and tires and was driving on the stock sized spare down the highway. Anybody care to guess how long before that diff blows to kingdom come?
|
|
#
?
Dec 20, 2014 04:23
|
|
|
VOR LOC posted:
Probably a long time, I doubt he's got a locker in there.
|
|
#
?
Dec 20, 2014 04:53
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 17:46 |
|
|
Horse Divorce posted:Like VW's V5 and Audi's inline 5? The inline 5 was the best engine Audi made 
|
|
#
?
Dec 20, 2014 04:58
|
|
