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KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

Jam Buddies

Ekster posted:

lmao at people not doing the loyalty missions and wondering why their party members are dropping like flies during the suicide mission even though the game heavily hints that Yes, You Should Really Fix My Issues

I was going to do all of them, but I decided to step into the thing that got my crew kidnapped, and I figured just having two or three people not 'loyal' would be fine and that if I didn't hurry that kidnapped crew would be killed. :smith:

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THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax
i did all of them and then i got the green guy killed because he was a cool assassin who had a sickness so i thought he would do best sneaking thru a vent

i had zaeed lead a party and he got himself killed because i didn't pay attention during his mission because i was shooting peopel

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

i sent mordin on the vents cause 'uses tech powers' means 'can hack stuff' right?

Ekster
Jul 18, 2013

you have a literal sentient robot and the space gypsy whiz kid on your team why wouldn't you send one of them in the vents :psyduck:

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Ekster posted:

you have a literal sentient robot and the space gypsy whiz kid on your team why wouldn't you send one of them in the vents :psyduck:

If there is one thing I have learned in my years here in games, it is that most goons are complete idiots at video games and are frankly the reason ridiculously drawn out and overexplaining tutorials are a thing.

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro

Hog Inspector posted:

still better than the n64

bit late but I think you mean dream cast which was made of a batterang

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

codenameFANGIO posted:

Replace the OG Playstation directional buttons with a real dpad and I am down with this. I like the owl eyes, I believe they can work. :shobon:
A new prototype drawing for Steam's Big Picture "controller configuration" screen floated into the beta client the other day. They've replaced the D-Pad with a 360-style analog stick and added D-Pad markings to the left touchpad.

THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax

Ekster posted:

you have a literal sentient robot and the space gypsy whiz kid on your team why wouldn't you send one of them in the vents :psyduck:

i didnt want the robot to die and i dont know who the other guy is

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

THE PENETRATOR posted:

i didnt want the robot to die and i dont know who the other guy is

I'll give you a hint, you can find a dissertation on their saliva's taste, if you look hard enough.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

KittyEmpress posted:

'Vague hints' like them saying 'hey we need a tech specialist to hack a computer! Who should we send, the tech specialist, the robot who is a computer, the soldier guy, or the space ninja?' or maybe vague hints like 'we need someone to lead a squad as distractions, should we send the old guy who has proven he's a bad leader, the person with military training as a squad leader, the person built up as being a genius tactician, or space batman?'

I honestly don't understand how anyone could mess up on the suicide mission except by not realizing that loyalty missions were not actually optional.


Edit: sorry this sounded meaner than I intended for it to, Owl. I just think people overstated how difficult that stuff was.

It does rather hinge on the fact that I paid any attention to any of the idiots I have to lug around for the entire game. I had no idea what anybody was supposed to be because they're all idiots as far as I was concerned, and I didn't use any of them. I think I rolled the entire game with the krogan and an engineer to open boxes.

Also the game kinds tells you to get the mission done ASAP so I didn't bother with the loyalty missions, because god drat it you worthless plebs should be able to do something right without me holding your goddamn hand. But nope, all useless, mostly dead. I fought off like a million bug dudes by myself and killed bosses and you dumbasses can't even open a door without getting your rear end shot because of your stupid baby problems. Ugh.

Party members should be more like that brotherhood of steel lady from fallout new vegas who punches everything with her shotgun fist and carries a workbench in her backpack. i.e useful. Also cool.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Dec 20, 2014

cuntman.net
Mar 1, 2013

Hog Inspector posted:

tactics ogre is pretty fun. it's not very deep so far though, i'm just starting chapter 2 and strategy seems to boil down to "use archers and buff with magic." hopefully it opens up some more options soon

My main strategy for most of the game was to use big bulky units to block the enemy's big bulky units, use archers to kill their mages and other squishy units, and use your own mages to cripple their front liners so your front liners can kill them.

Alternatively you could just use archers to kill everyone

OwlFancier posted:

Also the game kinds tells you to get the mission done ASAP

A lot of games tell you to do this though

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

Ddraig posted:

The analog sticks are weirdly placed. Using the analog sticks feels really weird and not natural. It's a matter of preference really but I prefer the xbox controller.

ah yes, symmetrical sticks, the configuration of dual sticks which has existed the longest, are weirdly placed. as is the concept of having things symmetrical. why didnt the snes have its dpad offset from the buttons, as is its weirdly placed

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

OwlFancier posted:

It does rather hinge on the fact that I paid any attention to any of the idiots I have to lug around for the entire game. I had no idea what anybody was supposed to be because they're all idiots as far as I was concerned, and I didn't use any of them. I think I rolled the entire game with the krogan and an engineer to open boxes.

Also the game kinds tells you to get the mission done ASAP so I didn't bother with the loyalty missions, because god drat it you worthless plebs should be able to do something right without me holding your goddamn hand. But nope, all useless, mostly dead. I fought off like a million bug dudes by myself and killed bosses and you dumbasses can't even open a door without getting your rear end shot because of your stupid baby problems. Ugh.

Party members should be more like that brotherhood of steel lady from fallout new vegas who punches everything with her shotgun fist and carries a workbench in her backpack. i.e useful. Also cool.

ah yes, how silly to have assumed that you paid attention to this story heavy game and its story, or anything going on around you.

sounds like the only worthless member of the team was the one who didnt pay attention and got everyone killed: you.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Not trying to be mean but Mass Effect 2 is a pretty easy game and if your party members are dying constantly then well, perhaps Commander Shepard should have been left to die on Akuze...

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
All of the Mass Effect 2 characters are pretty cool for that 70/80 shlocky Sci Fi vibe they're going for. It's pretty much a really good episode of Star Trek and you're Shatner in spirit.

I've got to reinstall ME2. It's such a cool game.

Also the suicide mission was pretty drat easy if you paid attention. Who do I send into this vent, a receptacle designed for hot gases despite the propaganda Die Hard has perpetuated: A robotic hacker or a fragile fleshbag?

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Miranda: We need a TECH EXPERT, somebody who is good at HACKING and ELECTRONICS to go through the vents

Aha, they said vents! Thane, you're in.

Miranda: Okay next up we need somebody with LEADERSHIP experience. Someone who has a long history of LEADING other people for the fire squad

Something about fire...well I guess there was a lot of fire in Zaeed's mission. Man these choices are easy.

Miranda: And lastly we need someone who is a BIOTIC expert. Maybe the most powerful human biotic of all time on your ship or um that Asari who's been around for 1000 years would...

Aren't you a biotic?

Miranda: Well in theory I--

DONE. Flawless suicide mission here we come!

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
That would probably be my reasoning to be fair

also it's a suicide mission so they should be dying anyway.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I also think people should have died no matter what, if only because most of the effort that went into all the different savefile permutations of Mass Effect 2/3 rely on choices that 90% of players never make.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

You motherfuckers are making me want to do me1 thru 3 again

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

KittyEmpress posted:

I was going to do all of them, but I decided to step into the thing that got my crew kidnapped, and I figured just having two or three people not 'loyal' would be fine and that if I didn't hurry that kidnapped crew would be killed. :smith:

i mean you're right I think there's a certain number of missions you can spend dicking around after your crew gets kidnapped before they actually start dying off and I think it wasn't a particularly large number.

pretty sure you can get away with having two or three people not loyal but it depends on who

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I can't remember , will the origin me3 find your steam me 2 saves?

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




http://store.steampowered.com/app/339000/

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

in the interest of posting threads i have posted a thread please help it be successful so we can continue this thread posting trend.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3689195

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

exquisite tea posted:

Miranda: We need a TECH EXPERT, somebody who is good at HACKING and ELECTRONICS to go through the vents

Aha, they said vents! Thane, you're in.

Miranda: Okay next up we need somebody with LEADERSHIP experience. Someone who has a long history of LEADING other people for the fire squad

Something about fire...well I guess there was a lot of fire in Zaeed's mission. Man these choices are easy.

Miranda: And lastly we need someone who is a BIOTIC expert. Maybe the most powerful human biotic of all time on your ship or um that Asari who's been around for 1000 years would...

Aren't you a biotic?

Miranda: Well in theory I--

DONE. Flawless suicide mission here we come!

I love Ventmaster Thane

Stexils
Jun 5, 2008

i deliberately chose some party members for bad roles trying to get them killed and was only partially successful. jacob died in the vents but miranda managed to instead get grunt killed when i chose her for the shield

THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax

exquisite tea posted:

Miranda: We need a TECH EXPERT, somebody who is good at HACKING and ELECTRONICS to go through the vents

Aha, they said vents! Thane, you're in.

Miranda: Okay next up we need somebody with LEADERSHIP experience. Someone who has a long history of LEADING other people for the fire squad

Something about fire...well I guess there was a lot of fire in Zaeed's mission. Man these choices are easy.

Miranda: And lastly we need someone who is a BIOTIC expert. Maybe the most powerful human biotic of all time on your ship or um that Asari who's been around for 1000 years would...

Aren't you a biotic?

Miranda: Well in theory I--

DONE. Flawless suicide mission here we come!
Zaeed led a merc band and while he got them all killed and was a bad leader i was certain it would work out... for just him lol

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I just used the vent faq from the me2 op.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


euphronius posted:

You motherfuckers are making me want to do me1 thru 3 again

Do it, but stop after you beat Marauder Shields, the true final boss of ME3.

EDIT: Well that was an unfortunate fuckup

Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Dec 20, 2014

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Everblight posted:

Do it, but stop after you beat [url=Marauder Shields[/url], the true final boss of ME3.
Isn't that MTG?

Adam Bowen
Jan 6, 2003

This post probably contains a Rickroll link!

Stux posted:

gonna try x rebirth after all those patches and dlc see what its like wish me luck

Post your thoughts, I've been considering checking it out but not unless the patches actually fixed it.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


euphronius posted:

I can't remember , will the origin me3 find your steam me 2 saves?

ya

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Stux posted:

ah yes, how silly to have assumed that you paid attention to this story heavy game and its story, or anything going on around you.

sounds like the only worthless member of the team was the one who didnt pay attention and got everyone killed: you.

Nope because I completed the mission just fine :smug: those losers got killed because they're dorks.

Who's the cool dude who killed the giant terminator? Me motherfuckers. Should have been more like me and not tried to get all fancy by going through vents and stuff, just go through the one path and shoot everything in your way, works out 100% of the time for me.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Dec 20, 2014

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

StashAugustine posted:

i sent mordin on the vents cause 'uses tech powers' means 'can hack stuff' right?

also he's a lizard so the heat should have been easier for him to handle

still think it's bullshit he isn't a valid choice for that one :mad:

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


tbqh I rarely choose Tali for the vents because her panicked voice is too real sounding. Kasumi or Legion all the way.

I powered through the last bit of ME1 and have just started ME2. Everything about the gameplay is so much better, it starts out at a great tempo and just maintains that same pace throughout. No dry spells like in ME1 where you get to the Citadel for the first time and languish there for 3+ hours solving everybody's problems. The graphics and performance are a huge step up too, in ME2/3 they really squeezed as much as they could out of that Unreal 3 engine, low-res textures notwithstanding.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
i'll probably buy Mass Effect Remastered as long as they give us a version of Dragon Age Keep so that I don't actually HAVE to play ME1 to make every single little choice I want to make

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


precision posted:

i'll probably buy Mass Effect Remastered as long as they give us a version of Dragon Age Keep so that I don't actually HAVE to play ME1 to make every single little choice I want to make

I console cheated my way to uber guns/armor and my hyper-gaylord completionist run of ME1 clocked in at around 21 hours. That's with surveying every mineral, completing every sidequest, and exhausting everybody's dialogue tree even when I had no reason to and stood to gain nothing from it. So if you reeeeally wanna replay ME1 and have at least a somewhat good idea of which encounters play a role in the later games, you could probably blaze through the whole thing in under 12.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
I wish it was easier to skip to the good bits at the end in ME1. I rag on the game a lot, but Noveria and Ilos are really cool.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
Can't you just edit a ME2 save file and select the event flags you want?

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Noveria is really strange in that there are many alternate paths that most players will probably never see. For example, selling Parasini out to Anoleis, or activating the neutron purge right away, thus skipping directly to Benezia.

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Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
I love getting both Parasini and Anoleis killed because it's such a pointlessly mean choice that doesn't even make any sense to do for any reason other than "Shep is a loving shitheel"

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