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Stallion Cabana posted:not to like defend the majority of the crazy bullshit on there but if the 'heterophobia' thing was made on Tumblr I can absolutely see something like that being said and having some reasoning considering parts of tumblr that are heavy in Fandom often overlap with the 'Race to be the most sexually special snowflake, all cishets are the devil' parts of it. I mean there are people wishing death on the Winchester brother's actors real wives because they're destroying their gay fantasies. I cannot wait for the next big comic/cartoon/anime convention where the Avatar creators show up for a panel and are borderline assaulted by the people who hate Korrasami. It's going to get really, really bad.
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Fear not, they will be shielded by an army of merry lesbians alongside a bisexual brigade.DrSunshine posted:You know, I've always hated Asami's makeup. She wears way too much makeup, and it looks ugly. Never judge a kung-fu engineer by her looks alone. She is likely to invent something just to wreck your poo poo. VanSandman fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Dec 20, 2014 |
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So I guess the extra length of the final episode was so that they could jettison that final scene (or switch it for an alternate maybe) if the censors even twitched? It was a good and bold decision, and a timely conclusion to a story about the world-changingest Avatar, but also kind of ancillary, y'know? That fight in the cockpit, though.
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Something I haven't seen mentioned yet, I really like Korra's necklace at the end because it's pretty much what Aang wore: Korra's a fully realized, at peace avatar, you guys 
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I think the Korra/Asami thing was foreshadowed BEFORE KORRA WAS EVEN BORN GUYS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpDnbTPKA6I&feature=youtu.be&t=32s In all seriousness, gently caress yeah that final.
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nutranurse posted:I'm sad we won't be getting avatar ever again.
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nutranurse posted:I'm sad we won't be getting avatar ever again.  
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We'll never know whether or not Su's dad was Sokka (Either Suki died young, or Sokka cheated on her and the reason he's not around was because Suki killed him  )
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Loved that finale  Sad Avatar is done with now though.
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this is my favorite part of the finale  nerds getting mad never gets old
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achillesforever6 posted:I do like how some people thought this show would have done better on Cartoon Network even though that network is just as bad as Nick when it comes to loving over shows due to demographics and scheduling I think this idea crops up because CN doesn't hinge everything on one show, like Nick does with Spongebob. But don't forget that Young Justice got cancelled because too many girls were watching, who "everybody knows" do not buy superhero toys.
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MechaCrash posted:I think this idea crops up because CN doesn't hinge everything on one show, like Nick does with Spongebob. But don't forget that Young Justice got cancelled because too many girls were watching, who "everybody knows" do not buy superhero toys.
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Wait, why is this thread being closed on new years? That kind of screws over all the people who wait until a show has played to the end to marathon through it. Also the people rewatching the show, people discussing the comics and how they relate to the show and everything Avatar. I mean, Lost has been over for four years and it still has a thread.
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pentyne posted:I cannot wait for the next big comic/cartoon/anime convention where the Avatar creators show up for a panel and are borderline assaulted by the people who hate Korrasami. It's going to get really, really bad. I think anyone who attends a nerd convention should be prepared to deal with nerds
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MechaCrash posted:I think this idea crops up because CN doesn't hinge everything on one show, like Nick does with Spongebob. But don't forget that Young Justice got cancelled because too many girls were watching, who "everybody knows" do not buy superhero toys. Source? Because I thought that was less girls might be watching they  shouldn't be and more the fact that it wasn't selling toys. Which is just awful. How did a show's ability to sell toys determine if it got to stick around?
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RareAcumen posted:Source? Because I thought that was less girls might be watching they Since the 70s, at least? A lot further if you include radio shows with decoder rings and poo poo
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Yeah cartoons aren't just made by some eccentric billionaire who wants to fund projects with no regard of if it will a profit. I wish we lived in that world where I had a billions of dollars and just hired people to make good cartoons with cool stories and not give a poo poo that I was losing tons of money.
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You can always go with the anime production model where you make niche shows with razor thin margins targetting a tiny demographic that is willing to pay $100 for a two episode Bluray.
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The Legend of Korra doesn't even have poor toy sales as an excuse; they never even made any toys aside from dolls of Pabu and Naga.
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Eej posted:You can always go with the anime production model where you make niche shows with razor thin margins targetting a tiny demographic that is willing to pay $100 for a two episode Bluray. About 90% of all the good animation, and probably art in general, ever made has been funded by proceeds from crap. Needless to say good art doesn't make money on its own I'm actually coming around to being neutral on otaku, because as terrible as they are, there's so much anime that even if most of it is otaku garbage, there's still lots and lots of good stuff, none of which would have existed without the otakus buying body pillows. So thanks, otaku, for helping to fund Space Dandy and Cowboy Bebop. The only difference between the US and Japan is that the lovely stuff in Japan is porn purchased by shutins, while the lovely stuff in the US is Johnny Test and Dreamworks movies purchased by the lowest common denominator public vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Yes, it lost money, which got made up by otaku stuff. The animators made it because they have good taste and are artists, but don't get to make whatever they want all the time because good art doesn't sell and never has icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Dec 20, 2014 |
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achillesforever6 posted:Wait didn't Space Dandy bomb in Japan because it didn't appeal to the Otaku demographics there?
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I'm glad they finally pulled themselves together and nailed it for the finale. The city was spectacularly wrecked by both sides during the mecha fight and the engineer and cockpit fights were everything an Avatar fight should be, unlike the previous uninspired, bad-CGI fights against slow-moving power armor. They also acknowledged and corrected some of the complaints--Varrick disables the power armor before it can do anything, Meelo doesn't fartbend, and they gave us the relationship everyone kind of likes instead of the one that's universally hated. I think certain posters are overestimating the potential for outrage though. There aren't that many children left watching the show after it was banished to the internet due to plummeting viewership, and the fan reactions I've seen have ranged from "they made my OTP canon" to "I don't care as long as it's not Makorra". There seems to be a desire to see this as part of an imaginary slapfight between the creators and Nickelodeon when it's really just a sweet (and slightly subversive) way of ending a rocky series. Korra explaining her reasoning for sparing Kuvira was the best part of the episode. She was just like her villains--she wants to change the world for the better and has the power to do so, but this goes catastrophically wrong because they lack introspection and an awareness of the consequences of one's actions (just like Korra). By acknowledging this, she shows that she's finally gaining self-awareness and can grow as a character. The series would have been improved if Korra was just a bending prodigy instead of the Avatar. Not having an unquestionable spirit of elemental good or a messianic responsibility would have allowed the show to portray Korra in a more mixed light earlier, and it would avoid the weirdness of having an avatar of good point out that they're just like Hitler. The spiritual aspects were weak in Korra, and blowing open a new spirit portal in the middle of Republic City contradicted her earlier character growth with another "you weren't thinking about the consequences but it conveniently worked out well". The writers have hit their stride, and I wish we got this as a second season instead of the fourth. However, it's probably worth it to end on a high note so we remember Korra as the show it aspired to be instead of the show it was.
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This is hilarious. Whoever assembled it is a hero. Miss Nomer posted:Something I haven't seen mentioned yet, I really like Korra's necklace at the end because it's pretty much what Aang wore: Jesto posted:Wait, why is this thread being closed on new years? Nichael fucked around with this message at 10:05 on Dec 20, 2014 |
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I watched the finale earlier tonight and loved it, even though purposely ambiguous endings seem to be a thing in stuff I've watched this week. One question that my brother and I couldn't find the answer to: What happened with Korra and the Avatar State? Earlier in the season she kept being haunted by visions of herself in the past, and it cost her the chance to defeat Kuvira the first time. In the final battle she blinks into and out of the Avatar State - we assumed this was to protect herself to a certain degree? Or something like that? We thought that meeting Zaheer might've cured her but it didn't seem to be the case. What was stopping her from going full power Avatar State on the giant robot and absolutely destroying it? Did she actually regain that ability? We assumed she did at least by protecting Kuvira in the end but there's no evidence. Great season, great finale, a drat shame that the part that's going to get the most attention is the implied relationship between Korra and Asami. The great character building, action and comedy will probably fall by the wayside because of this stupidity.
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In the end, you realize you were just like me tryin' to make history.
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Eej posted:I think it's safe to say it's because they've been very bad about handling the Avatar State throughout this entire series and leave it at that. They've had so many opportunities to get rid of it forever with a perfect justification that it's frankly ridiculous that they just kept loving coming back to it
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AlmightyPants posted:One question that my brother and I couldn't find the answer to: What happened with Korra and the Avatar State? Earlier in the season she kept being haunted by visions of herself in the past, and it cost her the chance to defeat Kuvira the first time. In the final battle she blinks into and out of the Avatar State - we assumed this was to protect herself to a certain degree? Or something like that? We thought that meeting Zaheer might've cured her but it didn't seem to be the case. What was stopping her from going full power Avatar State on the giant robot and absolutely destroying it? Did she actually regain that ability? We assumed she did at least by protecting Kuvira in the end but there's no evidence.
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this allusion meant posted:Wu stated his intent was to dismantle and balkanize the Earth Nation into squabbling and easily corruptible republics. Presumably this suits the desires of the major powers, who have grown used to getting their ores, and now have a chance to get it for cheap. The perfect (and original) beachhead for Fire Nation invasion remains under the control of hostile forces. The tribal vassals of the Avatar have full encirclement and full penetration through oceans and waterways. The cult of the monastic ascetics crosses our territory without hindrance, regulation, or accountability. This is the end for the Earth Nation people; we will be slaves of the foreigners for generations. They will grind us into dust and bleed us dry for iron. And they will trumpet our purported villainy to silence our screams. I'm getting chills over here you sexy tyrant.
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There are two forms of the Avatar State. One is a purely unconscious self-defense mechanism that turns you into a scary-powerful malevolent rage monster. The other is the more conscious form that Korra can tap into at will that gives her a boost beyond what ordinary benders are capable of, but not quite at the godly overpowered destructiveness that the Avatar State can achieve. And before you ask, this was true of Aang and Roku as well. It's arguable whether the fully-powered godlike unconscious Avatar State could truly defeat Kuvira's mech. Maybe? Probably? It's not a surefire thing that you'd want to risk either way. Chaltab posted:She definitely used it, but only judiciously and briefly. It's part of her ongoing character development that she's not just switching on her phenomenal cosmic power indiscriminately.
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Aang at the end of ATLA was definitely more powerful than his "rage monster" form while being fully in control so I'm not so sure about those "two types", although it definitely is true that a lot of self control and training is required to fully harness it. Of course, after the previous Avatar lives are severed, the Avatar State pretty much only becomes a power boost for Korra since she no longer can harness the experience and techniques of previous Avatars. I rewatched the finale for ATLA today and Aang in Avatar State coulda totally wrecked that dumb robot with just that move where he shreds a rock into a stream of bullets that shred mountains.
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The Sharmat posted:Let's just go full anime and have Korra OVAs. If they're just on Netflix or something they can probably get away with Korra and Asami kissing. This is from about 20 pages ago, but if the comic you read was from 'The Promise' then I'd suggest giving them another try. 'The Search' and 'The Rift' that follow it are much better done. 'The Promise' was pretty fuckin' bad in a lot of parts but I enjoyed the other two sets.
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I enjoyed this series and am sad to see it end. But happy it ended on a high note. For the record I loathe shipping and tend to avoid ongoing show discussions as sometimes even speculation tends to gently caress things up for me. (That or I am usually so used to being alone and consuming media alone that I just don't want to have my thoughts clouded by whatever community there is insisting things ARE ONLY THIS WAY AGREE OR BE DOGPILED RAR.  )I guess we can maybe hope for some sequel comics or something but if not I can still say I have pretty much enjoyed this entire show outside of the Deus Ex Korra S1 ending. As to the big ending thingie? Maybe they are full on. Maybe they are more like the sisters they never had. Maybe they are bi. Maybe they don't even loving know yet. Any of the above works. Pick whichever you like the most I suppose. Just don't be an arse about it and ruin a good show by association is all. Besides, TF Animated, Young Justice, and Thundercats reboot never got proper endings so Korra is miles above them. Or NuBSG's... Troublesome ending. I don't even want to get into the clusterfuck that is Robotech. Failing to have an actually animated ending since 1986. (Currently the novel ending doesn't even remotely mesh now thanks to Shadow Chronicles.) I would so buy a Revoltech or Figma Korra toy though. Bonus points for Pabu accessory since Boleyn would never get a figure period though.
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Eej posted:Aang at the end of ATLA was definitely more powerful than his "rage monster" form while being fully in control so I'm not so sure about those "two types", although it definitely is true that a lot of self control and training is required to fully harness it.
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VanSandman posted:.... wait are there any fat people in the Avatar world? All I got is baby Korra. Must be all that kung-fu. BrianWilly posted:Like...I'm all too happy to see this resolution as a "happy ending" and I get that this is definitely the best, most appropriate outcome that the setting could have asked for, I'm just still not very clear on how, specifically, having separate city-states and elected officials are gonna solve the rampant lawlessness and poverty that afflicts the country, specifically.
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Captain Rufus posted:Any of the above works. Pick whichever you like the most I suppose. Just don't be an arse about it and ruin a good show by association is all. It's statements like that which we need to prevent turning into full tumblr mode. Also, I'm glad the magnificent magical kungfu is getting attention! And now, for a week of Avatar politics. But, drat, they really did leave several things unanswered. I DEMAND TO KNOW SUYIN'S DAD. COME ON TOPH SPILL IT BEFORE YOU DROP DEAD. The Earth kingdom situation could turn out either way, but that's just geopolitics for you. And they never explained the super-prepared air bandits. We can deduce that glowy eyes Korra was Raava out of touch with the avatar, but a closing scene would've been nice... Maybe when Korra actually realized Raava had returned, and she proceeded to hug herself. (Man there are a lot of hugs in this show) I really hope there's more Avatar sometime in the future. Maybe they'll have to pry the rights for the franchise from Nick's cold, dead hands to do it, but stranger things have happened. Just... Just give me JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, only with Avatar. Awesome crazy magical kungfu adventures over several generations.
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