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Jason La Canfora says UM is also targeting Sean Payton and Doug Marrone as possible options. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24906661/john-harbaugh-sean-payton-doug-marrone-jason-garrett-on-michigans-radar
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Ozu posted:Jason La Canfora says UM is also targeting Sean Payton and Doug Marrone as possible options. lol
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Dec 21, 2014 16:21
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This late in the game, you'd think guys who know nothing would just shut up like the rest of us, and wait to see what's going to happen. I think even basic logic dictates that Michigan is waiting solely on Harbaugh at this point.
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Dec 21, 2014 16:57
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Ozu posted:Jason La Canfora says UM is also targeting Sean Payton and Doug Marrone as possible options. NFL reporters get their info from agents and coaches. Harbaugh has deliberately kept them out of the loop to limit the exposure and keep the pressure off him and his team. His agent with the 49ers (David Dunn) does not represent any college coaches, and is thus likely to lose a client if Harbaugh goes to Michigan. They are the likely source of all the stuff about Harbaugh staying in the NFL because that's what they want to happen. All the negotiations with Michigan have gone through his dad, Jack Harbaugh. Hoke losing to Maryland and not getting to a bowl game has complicated things considerably, as Michigan fans are not distracted by bowl game preparations and as a result stuff keeps dribbling out. I guess this is a complicated way of saying that Jason La Confora does not seem to know what he's talking about.
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I just can't fathom where that Sean Payton rumor is even coming from. It is so bad — did someone just decide to troll the hell out of a reporter? It's message board garbage at it's worst. It's conceivable that the search firm might have contacted his agent to cover all bases, but Payton isn't going to be interested in Michigan under any circumstances. How could he possibly be a target?
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Dec 21, 2014 19:07
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Deteriorata posted:NFL reporters get their info from agents and coaches. Harbaugh has deliberately kept them out of the loop to limit the exposure and keep the pressure off him and his team. His agent with the 49ers (David Dunn) does not represent any college coaches, and is thus likely to lose a client if Harbaugh goes to Michigan. They are the likely source of all the stuff about Harbaugh staying in the NFL because that's what they want to happen. You're getting into AsInHowe levels of making poo poo up.
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Dec 21, 2014 19:51
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disheveled posted:I just can't fathom where that Sean Payton rumor is even coming from. It is so bad — did someone just decide to troll the hell out of a reporter? It's message board garbage at it's worst. It's conceivable that the search firm might have contacted his agent to cover all bases, but Payton isn't going to be interested in Michigan under any circumstances. How could he possibly be a target? Couldn't agree more. I think some people have trouble separating what they want to be true from what they think might be true. PAYTON TO MICHIGAN is, I think, one of those instances.
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Dec 21, 2014 19:51
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His contract isn't even up until 2017, and there's no way in gently caress the Saints fire him. Michigan might as well try to sign Drew Brees as their QB for all the progress they'll make on the Payton front.
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Dec 21, 2014 19:54
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Volkerball posted:His contract isn't even up until 2017, and there's no way in gently caress the Saints fire him. Michigan might as well try to sign Drew Brees as their QB for all the progress they'll make on the Payton front. I think we can all agree that's just silly speculation.
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Dec 21, 2014 19:57
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:You're getting into AsInHowe levels of making poo poo up. Well the stuff about the agents is true
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Dec 21, 2014 20:04
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:You're getting into AsInHowe levels of making poo poo up. He kept separate agents for college and pros in 2011. It's his MO. The guy know how the system works. I'm pretty sure I'm not the one in denial here.
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Dec 21, 2014 20:09
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Neodoomium posted:Well the stuff about the agents is true The agents bit, but like everything else about that is kind of silly. It's also more of the silly narrative that the only people who know anything at all are MICHIGAN FANS, BOOSTERS AND BLOGGERS, while everything else is just 'tripe.' Basically every story that casts doubt on whether or not he might take the job is junk and anything positive is God 's Own Word. It would be hilarious if it weren't so obnoxious. Deteriorata posted:He kept separate agents for college and pros in 2011. It's his MO. Yep. You're right. This has all been kabuki theatre master minded by Harbaugh. Michigan Posters and Boosters have all had the Inside Scoop from day one and he's just biding his time before making announcement.  But hey, whatever makes you feel more important on the internet, Det. BI NOW GAY LATER fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Dec 21, 2014 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Yep. You're right. This has all been kabuki theatre master minded by Harbaugh. Michigan Posters and Boosters have all had the Inside Scoop from day one and he's just biding his time before making announcement. This has all been in the works for a couple months, at least. Hackett was hired as interim AD precisely because of his links to the Harbaugh family. Landing Harbaugh was his only task.
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Dec 21, 2014 20:15
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Deteriorata posted:This has all been in the works for a couple months, at least. Hackett was hired as interim AD precisely because of his links to the Harbaugh family. Landing Harbaugh was his only task. So you're willing to say, with absolute  certainty that Jim Harbaugh is going to be the next HC of the Wolverines and this is all just been one long exercise in Kabuki Theatre?
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Dec 21, 2014 20:18
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:So you're willing to say, with absolute Harbaugh likes Brady Hoke and did not want to be perceived as pushing him aside for his job. He also did not want to abandon his team in midseason so as to keep his NFL options open. The timetable has been circa Jan. 1 for a hire right from the start. Michigan has not pursued anyone but Harbaugh. Harbaugh has never declined Michigan's obvious interest. I don't do toxxes but everything has been arranged at this point. Michigan does not have him under contract as he is still under contract with the 49ers. He has signed a non-binding MoU. Coaches have told a couple recruits who were threatening to jump ship that Harbaugh will be their head coach. There is always the possibility of something blowing up prior to ink on paper and a press conference, but that seems quite unlikely at this point. We will learn about it all soon enough.
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Dec 21, 2014 20:26
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Deteriorata posted:Harbaugh likes Brady Hoke and did not want to be perceived as pushing him aside for his job. He also did not want to abandon his team in midseason so as to keep his NFL options open. Jesus christ. You really do buy all this poo poo. I am done.
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Dec 21, 2014 20:28
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Jesus christ. You really do buy all this poo poo. I am done. The best part is that if Harbaugh does not take the job they have the excuse all set up for him backing out of the agreement. It's an amazing persecution complex.
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Dec 21, 2014 20:36
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Harbaugh is coming, he just can't come for eight or nine days. Nothing to do but waitm
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Jesus christ. You really do buy all this poo poo. I am done. Occam's razor is a bitch.
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Dec 21, 2014 20:56
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Deteriorata posted:Occam's razor is a bitch. I'm pretty sure Occam's razor in this case is the successful major league coach staying in the major leagues like literally every other successful NFL coach.
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Dec 21, 2014 20:59
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Deteriorata posted:Occam's razor is a bitch. Can you seriously cite a single source for all the claims you're making about Jack Harbaugh, secret negotiations/agreements, him liking Brady Hoke, etc? Because it's not Occam's razor if it relies on MGoBlog message board rumors.
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Deteriorata posted:Occam's razor is a bitch. 
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Salty tears of Michigan fans would be great, but at this point seems its a lot likelier now that Harbaugh will be the coach of Michigan than it appeared just a week or two ago.
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Volkerball posted:I'm pretty sure Occam's razor in this case is the successful major league coach staying in the major leagues like literally every other successful NFL coach. Except that he's actually spent more time coaching at the college level, and is a total lunatic that is getting forced out of a gig because he treats his players like kids.
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Dec 21, 2014 22:42
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The best part is Harbaugh is either going to go 11-2 for two seasons and bolt right back to the NFL or get 8 wins forever and coach Michigan until he dies
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go3 posted:The best part is Harbaugh is either going to go 11-2 for two seasons and bolt right back to the NFL or get 8 wins forever and coach Michigan until he dies Yeah I don't really get that. Why do that vs. getting any of the NFL jobs available now? A guy like Pete Carroll that was an NFL lifer lasted 8 years in college even though his name kept popping up.
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pugnax posted:Except that he's actually spent more time coaching at the college level, and is a total lunatic that is getting forced out of a gig because he treats his players like kids. Almost every NFL coach has spent more time coaching in college. You have to have work experience to get promoted. I think the issue is more York and Balke disliking Harbaugh as a person than anything related to his coaching.
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Andrew AbramsonVerified account @AbramsonPBP Ross to reporters: "Here's a Christmas present. You don't have to ask me anymore. He has one year left on contract and is coming back" 1:48 PM - 21 Dec 2014 (referring to Joe Philbin) I guess Stephen knows Harbaugh won't be available for an NFL job next year. 
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Watching Det get completely sucked into this mass conspiracy to hire Harbaugh has made all this completely worth it.
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My daily routine through this has been to get up, check mgoblog and its forums to see what crazy bullshit we're going to argue about today in TFF. Then I go to TFF and pop an excedrin. Then to cleanse my palette I listen to Run the Jewels for 90 minutes.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Watching Det get completely sucked into this mass conspiracy to hire Harbaugh has made all this completely worth it. Squeezing this cloak and dagger conspiracy horseshit into Occam's Razor was really the cherry on top.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Watching Det get completely sucked into this mass conspiracy to hire Harbaugh has made all this completely worth it. Hmm, yes. A billionaire who has openly courted Harbaugh for years and spoken within the last month of how he would make a run at Harbaugh if he became available has suddenly clammed up and decided to keep the coach he doesn't want for another year. This is certainly a meaningless piece of information.
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LeeMajors posted:Squeezing this cloak and dagger conspiracy horseshit into Occam's Razor was really the cherry on top.
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All this hoopla, aggressive feelings, and everything is going to pay off in a month when the Michigan Hire Announcement will be some version of "who the hell is Kris Cinkovich?"
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Not that I'm going to pretend like I know what Harbaugh is going to do, or that anybody else truly knows, but these are signs pointing in the right direction, yes? Like if Harbaugh signed, would you still be legitimately surprised that he did so, and think that all of these rumors and rumblings were just static that had no impact on the final result?
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Adun posted:Yeah I don't really get that. Why do that vs. getting any of the NFL jobs available now? A guy like Pete Carroll that was an NFL lifer lasted 8 years in college even though his name kept popping up. Pete Carroll bombed out of the NFL and was a surprise hire at USC, so his success there wasn't expected at all. He'd probably still be there had he not fled town before the sanctions were handed down. Two different situations.
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Trot_to_Trotsky posted:Not that I'm going to pretend like I know what Harbaugh is going to do, or that anybody else truly knows, but these are signs pointing in the right direction, yes? Like if Harbaugh signed, would you still be legitimately surprised that he did so, and think that all of these rumors and rumblings were just static that had no impact on the final result? I'm cautiously optimistic. I don't think it's particularly silly to see the NFL reporters as dismissive of anything that doesn't suggest their league is the destination for all human beings and several other sentient life forms. There's a lot of information being thrown around, and just as much bullshit.
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C. Everett Koop posted:Pete Carroll bombed out of the NFL and was a surprise hire at USC, so his success there wasn't expected at all. He'd probably still be there had he not fled town before the sanctions were handed down. Two different situations. He didn't bomb out. Made the two playoffs twice with the Pats, won the AFC East his first year, and then got fired after missing the playoffs in year 3. You're telling me that sounds much different from Jim Harbaugh?
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Hearing that pending Harbaugh's decision, Jason Garrett to Michigan is pretty much a done deal.
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Adun posted:He didn't bomb out. Made the two playoffs twice with the Pats, won the AFC East his first year, and then got fired after missing the playoffs in year 3. Jim Harbaugh is the 5th winningest coach in NFL history, most winningest active, and the only coach to go to the conference championship game every year in his first three seasons. Carroll went 33-31 before he got fired, and made the playoffs once in 4 years, losing in the wild card round. Volkerball fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Dec 22, 2014 |
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