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you guys can't fool me into studying maths outside semester
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 05:07 |
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Seagull posted:you guys can't fool me into studying maths outside semester Curses, I'll get your GPA up next time Seagull. NEXT TIIIME. / EDIT: Dr. Claw, BSc (Hons) PhD hooman fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Dec 22, 2014 |
# ? Dec 22, 2014 05:12 |
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84 here. And I've got an accounting degree. Why be numbers hard
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 05:18 |
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Got 100 here, although the gun control question was a bit of a guess since i wasn't exactly sure what they meant by the numbers.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 05:25 |
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The mammogram question is a common intro to Bayesian reasoning question. It's tricky because it's not in line with how people are generally taught to conceptualise statistical trials in basic high school stats and stuff. That said, if you've ever studied any sort of epidemiology or stats for any of the health sciences you've probably seen it. I can't remember the exact number but like well over two thirds of practising doctors get it wrong.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 05:29 |
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In the version I did that question was about carbon pricing. I'll be interested to see if the results match the ones here: http://politicalirony.com/2013/12/09/politics-trumps-math/ (I assume they will).
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 05:29 |
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Senor Tron posted:Got 100 here, although the gun control question was a bit of a guess since i wasn't exactly sure what they meant by the numbers. I think that one might have been a trick question. The way it's asked, both answers are right, because both the 'increase' and 'decrease' numbers are higher among the cities that banned them.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 05:30 |
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open24hours posted:It's a pretty well validated test. That question is the hardest one. A lot of those questions assume that covariance is zero, which may not necessarily be true; especially when the questions relate to gambling. I know it is for basic competency, but it also simplifies how gambling actually works (the existence of gamblers fallacy).
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 05:34 |
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Cleretic posted:I think that one might have been a trick question. The way it's asked, both answers are right, because both the 'increase' and 'decrease' numbers are higher among the cities that banned them. That's why i i didnt't quite understand it. I ended up assuming it meant some cities saw an increase while others saw a decrease, and those numbers were the average increases or decreases.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 05:40 |
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open24hours posted:It's a pretty well validated test. That question is the hardest one. chyaroh posted:That mammogram question made my brain hurt. It's been far too long since I've studied any kind of maths, and stats was never a major part of it. I still managed to score 91% though.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 06:05 |
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I'm glad you guys are all saying that was hard because I got 64
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 06:15 |
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So was the correct answer to the mammogram question 81 out of 90?
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 06:23 |
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quote:
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 06:28 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:So was the correct answer to the mammogram question 81 out of 90? 9 out of 19 if you had the same version as me.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 06:38 |
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Preserve this entire article in amber. Every last word.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 06:48 |
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Amoeba102 posted:9 out of 19 if you had the same version as me. Fairly certain this is the answer I chose.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 06:55 |
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Jacqui Lambie cops a lot of poo poo from literally everywhere, but she should become some sort of modern folk hero just for being Tony Abbott's kryptonite.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 06:56 |
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Lambie and Palmer (and PUPs/ex-PUPs in general) seem to wake up in the morning and flip a coin: if it's heads, they're going to be loving awesome, if it's tails, they're going to be utter shitheads. I always love it when they are awesome.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 06:58 |
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93.4, I flunked maths in high school which is why I went into law.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:01 |
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Even though I got 100, I think some of them were just throwing extra numbers and statements at you to confuse you. Some of them were more logic based than actual stats. I actually think it was a good test for seeing if people can cut through the bullshit that gets thrown at them by politicians/advertisers. The only issue I would have is that I think that Greens voters are more likely to be tertiary educated - which would influence their ability to perform this kind of test.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:06 |
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Freudian Slip posted:The only issue I would have is that I think that Greens voters are more likely to be tertiary educated - which would influence their ability to perform this kind of test. Isn't that the point of the test?
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:09 |
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lol
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:09 |
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Amoeba102 posted:9 out of 19 if you had the same version as me. gently caress, I figured if the test was correct when testing positive 9 out of 10 times and she tested positive, she'd have a 9 in 10 chance of having cancer. And that the other stuff was there just to obfuscate that. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Dec 22, 2014 |
# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:14 |
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NTRabbit posted:Isn't that the point of the test? Yeah - I agree that the point of this test is to look at whether people of certain parties are better at answering these sort of questions. However, I don't think I got 100 because I believe we should look after refugees a whole lot better. I got 100 because I have been educated to answer these sort of questions. I am just pointing out that 1) progressive thought and education correlate 2) education and the ability to answer these types of questions correlate and this is what I believe is the cause of Green voters answering these questions better. Edit: Whereas if we ran a Voight-Kampff test - I would put that the differences down to Tories being unable to empathise Double edit: It will be more interesting to see the results once level of education has been taken into account Freudian Slip fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Dec 22, 2014 |
# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:19 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:gently caress, I figured if the test was correct when testing positive 9 out of 10 times and she tested positive, she'd have a 90% chance of having cancer. And that the other stuff was there just to obfuscate that. It also said that out of the 90 women without cancer 10 would receive a false positive. So out of 100 women 19 would get a positive result while only 9 would actually have cancer.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:20 |
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Lid posted:
Graph Starts at 65% and ends at 85%. As a graph fan I woud like to hurt the person who made that graph. Also that "very conservative" sample size is tiny.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:23 |
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where are the error.bars.on the graph?
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I got 95, and I'm pretty sure I just got the nuclear power plant question wrong because it's late and I was too lazy to figure it out so I just clicked one of them. Score one for the uneducated (high school only) but very progressive.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:25 |
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Amoeba102 posted:where are the error.bars.on the graph? For a test that appraised people on using statistics, I'm pretty disappointed with their statistical analysis.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:26 |
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This progressive got 93.4%
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:27 |
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Amoeba102 posted:where are the error.bars.on the graph? Presumably it's dealing with the total testing population rather than extrapolating, so no need for error bars as the data is absolute. Made me shiver, though. Also, yeah, drat dodgy ordinate scales
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:27 |
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Does anyone know anything about this, or has heard anything like it?quote:
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:29 |
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Those On My Left posted:This progressive got 93.4% We are the same. This is disconcerting.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:30 |
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Post-Christmas/Boxing Day Brisgoon Meet Time: 28th of December, Sunday. 6pm Location: Jackpot Dining, 55 Elizabeth Street, Brisbane QLD, booking is under the name Auspol Once again, it's time for Brisgoons to meet and gather to discuss the issues in our lives, such as Anidav's job/Young Labor woes or how to survive living in the worst loving state in Australia (except for SA, because Christopher Pyne) as well as ponder on how hosed we are for the year ahead (at least those of us who are uni students or trying to gain work *coughAnidavcough*). Since the venue is in a central location, there should be no transport woes for anyone (bar another gently caress-off storm forcing QR and BT to shut down services).
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:33 |
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I'm going to die that night.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:35 |
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Senor Tron posted:It also said that out of the 90 women without cancer 10 would receive a false positive. So out of 100 women 19 would get a positive result while only 9 would actually have cancer. Pretty much. This is something that people don't readily get and it's why if you ever take a Stats class they'll spend ages drumming this and other similar things into you. It's stuff that makes sense once you look at it, and at the maths behind it, but which doesn't come to most people intuitively. I've seen so many people who are otherwise intelligent making these kinds of mistakes and refusing to believe it's a mistake because they haven't done anything to do with statistics beyond grade 10. e: I didn't complete my Maths degree (I'd like to though), but I'd recommend to everyone to at least do first-year stats courses, they're probably the most useful single units you could take at uni. CROWS EVERYWHERE fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Dec 22, 2014 |
# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:36 |
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Does anyone know anything about this, or has heard anything like it? It sounds like total bunk, the second they mentioned calling Interpol and getting to look at accounts I knew it was total bullshit.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:37 |
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Anidav posted:I'm going to die that night. Who told you I was coming to Queensland to kill you?
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:37 |
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Anidav posted:I'm going to die that night. OH, I forgot to mention we have a very specific invitation to your girlfriend, Anidav, She may bring a plus one as well.
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:38 |
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Does anyone know anything about this, or has heard anything like it? Haha this is nuts. Race welfare fraud. The friend of a friend is Scott Morrison. E: where did you find this and can you share more?
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# ? Dec 22, 2014 07:45 |