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Dely Apple posted:Also Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack. - Rule of Acquisition #109
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I want an 'underground railroad' doff that has a 50% chance to switch any nearby poor Orion Slave Girls into real clothes.
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Dec 22, 2014 06:21
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 The skant is real!
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Dely Apple posted:Also Post it in that Design a DOFF thread already.
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I remember my doff named Puto.
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50% off clothing packs. By Grabthar's hammer, what a savings.
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Bluegeek mad.BLUEGEEK please read posted:When closing threads you refer to this: bluegeek posted:Closed. Not going to waste my time debating with certain people. Edit: the revolution continues here and here (until bluegeek notices them and closes it down). Aleth fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Dec 23, 2014 |
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  So they deleted 40 costume slots, and I don't even know what the offending one was. Probably the Skant. Fortunately, I have them all saved, so recreating them is easy.
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The skant has always been feared
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Preechr posted:So they deleted 40 costume slots, and I don't even know what the offending one was. Probably the Skant. Fortunately, I have them all saved, so recreating them is easy.  what. The. gently caress?!What changed in cryptic to start doing these things?
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Calling dynov! Back in that recording booth sir! "Events of this weekend on the forums highlight why players get in trouble. Behavior going against the call for humane treatment of ourselves and others embedded in the legacy of Star Trek by its creator, Gene Roddenberry. I am no less capable of this than others. Knowing the full potential of aggression, I value peace. It is easy to be angry and hostile. Some provoke these reactions, others react when provoked. There are many who call for peace and love, others to which that motto is simply an excuse to take advantage of those who lower their guard. That is why I apprise equal opportunity, because I believe people have as much right to react to wrongs being committed, as the wrongdoers who believe they have the right to commit evils in the first place. In other words, let's not use the internet and STO to harass each other. Common sense, no? So far I have not doxxed, spammed anyone's channels, or been any of the countless vicious things haters frequently ascribe to me, though I am fully able of doing so. Many like to accuse me of things - unfit for repetition here - and then attack me further if I call out actions which lead to my own reactions, as if defence is some sort of crime; while they knowingly proceed to break all boundaries of humanity. By contrast, though I have experimented with the methods others have used first, I choose to restrain my own reactions time and time again. Sometimes it feels I am the only adult in a place full of underdeveloped minds, with little comprehension of reality and less of humanity. We all know of the attacks on Olivia lately. But she isn't the first to experience attacks, nor I for that matter; though I am the first I know of to maintain a video diary, useful among other things, for disproving rumors said about me or others. It caught so much more. Videos no one has seen until this weekend, in which I could have released alot more damaging information, but did not. THAT is restraint. Others have as much power of restraint as I do. I call upon those who use harassment, doxxing, impersonation and all forms of psychological exploitation to restrain themselves. Withdraw impersonating accounts, videos of online shaming providing proof of their shameful ways which only serve to harm themselves. Though I have full right to post evidence, I have taken the first step and took the few videos I did put up documenting their behavior down. On the other hand shameful videos posted for doxxing are up. If they are on the side of love, peace and helpfulness like so many claim, then they have no need to resort to evil tactics that even guys they paint as bad (me), don't do. There are those who say I have never been helpful, never used common sense. To them I say common sense is proven by deeds, not talk. I have done my share and continue to do so. I call everyone to spread this message. Let us show restraint in abusive behavior on STO, not with lip-service but with action. Take down doxxing videos, cease harassment. It is the right thing to do to honor Roddenberry's legacy this holiday season. Thank you."
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SugarAddict posted:
It is obviously why the players are getting bored and leaving instead of pointlessly grinding for tech upgrades
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skant is canon. this is racism.
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So, I keep getting private challenges from this Saint Olivia character. This happening to the rest of you guys too?
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playboy hired a nerd to watch some star treks http://www.playboy.com/articles/star-trek-episode-guide-part-one
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az posted:playboy hired a nerd to watch some star treks i hope you enjoyed my work
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Best episode description on that page, "Riker gets busy with some space Irish."
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alfheimwanderer posted:So, I keep getting private challenges from this Saint Olivia character. This happening to the rest of you guys too? As far as I know it's not a goon doing it, but it's still all Dental's fault somehow.
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g0del posted:Since you evidently haven't been following the latest STO forums drama, some kid created a bunch of throwaway accounts with names that resemble 'famous' STO players like Olivia, and has been using a macro to challenge-spam various people. It's not a Dental, however some of us have spoken to him. Just ignore the challenge, it'll go away and won't do anything to disrupt your gameplay, despite what the pubbies are screaming.
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hello sean
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Acer Pilot posted:hello sean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax6yYP_9Voc
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Ahahaha I just copped my first ever STO forum ban, coming back just in time for Christmas.  quote:You have been banned for the following reason:
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Hahaha, which one of you posted the AotC puff piece?quote:I went to externity channel once. I didn't see much in the way of help being offered by the official members and such. What I did see though filled me with shame. 
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Given how it seems they are caving to more delicate player's sensibilities due to steadily losing more and more players, it makes me wonder if STO is going down the same route that Second Life took, and will eventually become a hellhole for ERPists, furries and other horrid types and no one else while the game fades into obscurity.
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Ludicro posted:Given how it seems they are caving to more delicate player's sensibilities due to steadily losing more and more players, it makes me wonder if STO is going down the same route that Second Life took, and will eventually become a hellhole for ERPists, furries and other horrid types and no one else while the game fades into obscurity. It's going there pretty fast already, these money making changes turned the game from the most casual friendly F2P MMO down the road to yet another Korean grindfest. If it keeps up the game will be dead in a year.
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g0del posted:Since you evidently haven't been following the latest STO forums drama, some kid created a bunch of throwaway accounts with names that resemble 'famous' STO players like Olivia, and has been using a macro to challenge-spam various people. I looked at the thread briefly, but after seeing how people were whining about the game being made unplayable by having to play in RPG mode and the inane fingerpointing by the pubbies, I kind of marked it as useless. Figured it had to be a macro, since no one is that obsessed with stalking me (hopefully). Just wondering if whoever it was was targeting Dentals specifically, or if Olivia was getting into the swing of things in a misplaced quest for revenge
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Ludicro posted:Given how it seems they are caving to more delicate player's sensibilities due to steadily losing more and more players, it makes me wonder if STO is going down the same route that Second Life took, and will eventually become a hellhole for ERPists, furries and other horrid types and no one else while the game fades into obscurity.  Korgan posted:It's going there pretty fast already, these money making changes turned the game from the most casual friendly F2P MMO down the road to yet another Korean grindfest. If it keeps up the game will be dead in a year. A part of me worries that Delta Rising actually did make more money than LoR due to all the bullshit despite the noticeable drop in players right afterwards, giving PWE no reason to back down or reconsider.
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Got an apology for this morning's little mix-up. Unfortunately, the costumes they deleted really are gone- they can't retrieve things like that. On the plus side, I did have them backed up, so no real loss. I now have 50 costume slots 
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Asimo posted:A part of me worries that Delta Rising actually did make more money than LoR due to all the bullshit despite the noticeable drop in players right afterwards, giving PWE no reason to back down or reconsider. I have no doubt Delta Rising has already made more money than LoR did in its entire run. But if the monthly (or however they measure it) revenue hasn't already SHARPLY declined, it will after Christmas. I'm sure over the next few months we'll see more zen sales, more giveaways and more shallow attempts to retain the whales than they normally do. Of course, they'll do absolutely nothing to actually bring players back, just make the cash transactions more appealing.
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Yeah, I'm positive that Cryptic knows a lot of the changes were poorly received, a lot of players have quit or cut back on spending, but they can't do anything about it due to edicts from PWE (or at least, someone unfathomably incompetent high up at Cryptic). For all of Cryptic's flaws, they've always been good at making casual, accessible MMOs, and the past few years have been nothing but improving the player experience in STO. But... if Delta Rising did make a lot of money, they just don't have any leverage to make big changes back to the old status quo. UItimately PWE only gives a gently caress about the money being made, not the number of people playing, despite the fact it's the latter that leads to the former. Speaking from anecdote, four friends of mine got into STO over the years after hearing me talk about it, and all of them basically threw their hands up and stopped playing either right before or shortly after the expansion hit. And I can't see any of them coming back without massive apology-level changes from Cryptic. The game is absolutely brutal to casual players right now and it's basically an impossible grind or a horrendous cash sink if you aren't already space rich. Hell, I am space rich (even if I'm definitely the poorest Wesley) and I can barely keep my main character up to date in gear and specializations, I've basically had to shelve my klank and romulan characters to contraband mule hell. The amount of time and cash you'd need to spend as a new player to get one character competitive - not even top tier, just with a T5U/T6 ship, MkXIII gear, specialization points, reputations, etc. - is staggering. This isn't sustainable, and the business tactics reek of something a crapsack forgettable asian MMO would do to bleed the last bit of cash from its whales in its dying months, not what you'd do with a previously healthy and growing game.
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I think you're underestimating just how much money the targeted whale population spends vs the average player. They're after those people who spend 900 Euros on lockbox keys, don't get the ship they wanted, and keep playing and spending more money anyway. Why? Because they have compulsive addictive personalities and/or a strong emotional attachment to their "investment" and don't understand sunk cost fallacy. The average player who doesn't do that? They're just window dressing for the real customers and infinitely replaceable by random casuals who are just starting the game. They won't even realize the massive endgame gear treadmill exists until they reach it.
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I was pretty shocked at the egregious costs introduced with the upgrade system. As if it weren't bad enough before... With a healthy population of free players the whales have someone to feel better than, justifying their expenditures to themselves. If you make it so the masses quit before they make it anywhere, the whales won't find it so necessary to be kings of a ghost town.
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DancingShade posted:I think you're underestimating just how much money the targeted whale population spends vs the average player. Mondian posted:I was pretty shocked at the egregious costs introduced with the upgrade system. As if it weren't bad enough before... EDIT: There's the erosion of goodwill due to the changes to consider too. The best example is probably specializations... I honestly trust Cryptic when they say they intended them to be a long-term grind and something to reward regular play over the next few months. Sure, it fucks over alts pretty hard, but that's really the sort of mistake Cryptic's made multiple times in the past and it's one they always eventually fix over time like they did with rep sponsorship or the event ship discounts. (Assuming PWE will let them fix it this time, anyway.) But... because of the other blatant player-hostile bullshit that came in with DR, nobody wanted to look at it like that. Every aspect of the system was seen through the lens of the grind to 60 that required repeated patrol farming, the quasi-exploits of the Tau Dewa patrols as people desperately farmed them to try and get to the next plot missions and then realized it worked just fine for grinding spec points at 60, and of course the massive overreaction from Cryptic when the metrics came in and showed a subset of players being way ahead of the planned curve. Something that should have been a harmless net positive to the game suddenly became something that made players quit, stop spending money, or both. If I were in charge of Cryptic right now I would be panicked and bending over backwards to try and mend bridges, and the fact they're not doing so and the devs and CMs keep dancing around the topics quietly implies there's dissent in the ranks. Asimo fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Dec 23, 2014 |
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Frankly, the costs are not the only issue. It used to be that earning EC and dil was "fun" and not really anything painful to do. These days, doing most of the ques just feels like a loving chore thanks to wonky glitches and failure mechanics, not to mention that pugs just cannot even be done most times due to those same reasons. Essentially it all went from casual and fun to feeling like some sort of secondary job, which is why I'm slowly going broke and just spend my day in areas I can troll in, as it's the only real "engaging" activity left.
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I feel like they would go a long way towards fixing things if they drastically increased the skill point rewards for completing the queued events. As it goes, grinding specialization is unavoidably mind numbing and upgrading gear is outrageously expensive, but if people had a reason to queue up it might just revitalize things a bit.
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Ludicro posted:Given how it seems they are caving to more delicate player's sensibilities due to steadily losing more and more players, it makes me wonder if STO is going down the same route that Second Life took, and will eventually become a hellhole for ERPists, furries and other horrid types and no one else while the game fades into obscurity. they did the right thing on snowballs, didnt push the snowball nerf onto the live server
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Mondian posted:I feel like they would go a long way towards fixing things if they drastically increased the skill point rewards for completing the queued events. As it goes, grinding specialization is unavoidably mind numbing and upgrading gear is outrageously expensive, but if people had a reason to queue up it might just revitalize things a bit. Most definitely agreed. As it stands it's too much work for too little rewards. XP you get more repeatedly grinding the same mind numbing patrols and those gear upgrade costs are simply off-putting for most people.
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Hi my name is butts and 13 of my 23 accounts are currently banned.
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Goat Pillager posted:Most definitely agreed. As it stands it's too much work for too little rewards. XP you get more repeatedly grinding the same mind numbing patrols and those gear upgrade costs are simply off-putting for most people. They wouldn't lose much throwing us a bone with the xp... those skill point boosts are so outrageously priced no one buys them anyway.
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Mondian posted:They wouldn't lose much throwing us a bone with the xp anyway... those skill point boosts are so outrageously priced no one buys them anyway. I had a few from some giveaway/promo code rewards ages ago and think they took upwards of a month to sell off.
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