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The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Anidav posted:

Scott Morrison confirms I will be drinking at this goonmeet.

Good. Let the hate flow through you.

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
This bottle of whiskey is half empty already and it's not even 10pm. I've just been reading New Matilda and giggling at how bad Australia treats everyone. National Union of Students with falling support and members, Cops kicking down tent embassies and just Joe Hockey in general.

Fruity Gordo
Aug 5, 2013

Neurotic, Impotent Rage!
Unity and NLS are the ones who are completely destroying NUS, not sure why you find your friends being disgusting losers funny.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Anidav posted:

This bottle of whiskey is half empty already and it's not even 10pm. I've just been reading New Matilda and giggling at how bad Australia treats everyone. National Union of Students with falling support and members, Cops kicking down tent embassies and just Joe Hockey in general.

Try egg nog instead! Then you've got the thrill of salmonella roulette AND alcohol. 'Tis the season, after all.

Fruity Gordo
Aug 5, 2013

Neurotic, Impotent Rage!
Also false alarm on the Redfern Aboriginal Tent Embassy being raided tonight, but everyone is on their guard for poo poo happening over the next few days at least.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Matthew Beet posted:

gently caress da poors


Word via work channels says that homelessness peak bodies have all had their funding cut (Homelessness Australia, National Shelter, Community Housing Federation Australia, and Financial Counselling Australia.) in addition to some direct service providers such as Highlands and National Shelter.
Mmm, that's some good conservative screwing the poor there. Morrison already off to a flying start

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
I skull Pauls Egg Nog like a goddamned oil rig drinks the Earth.

Shunkymonky
Sep 10, 2006
'sup
God bless us, everyone

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Mithranderp posted:

Try egg nog instead! Then you've got the thrill of salmonella roulette AND alcohol. 'Tis the season, after all.

But I though hard alcohol killed salmonella. Same reason why raw chicken in a pint glass of vodka is such a popular (and delicious) family Christmas dinner.

Fruity Gordo
Aug 5, 2013

Neurotic, Impotent Rage!
Lol so I just found out that Ralph Cerminara and some other boneheads from the ADL went to Lakemba this evening to pick a fight and roundly got their arses kicked. Poor old Ralph had his arm broken. :3:

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Matthew Beet posted:

Word via work channels says that homelessness peak bodies have all had their funding cut (Homelessness Australia, National Shelter, Community Housing Federation Australia, and Financial Counselling Australia.) in addition to some direct service providers such as Highlands and National Shelter.

If you do it between ministers, then no one is to blame :eng99:

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
But according to economics, billionaires who donate to charity will fix homelessness. :science:

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Gorilla Salad posted:

If you do it between ministers, then no one is to blame :eng99:

Plus no one follows the news over the holidays. Abbotts pretty much got two weeks to do what he wants before anyone sobers up enough to care/notice.

Anidav posted:

But according to economics, billionaires who donate to charity will fix homelessness. :science:

Fingers crossed that ghost of Christmas, past, present and future break into Rineharts estate, steal everything and donate it to charity while she's asleep.
Or redeem her into an actual ethical human being, but was trying to be realistic.

dr_rat fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Dec 22, 2014

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
best venue for goonmeet

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again


Well it looks like NSW Labor is hosed forever.

T-1000
Mar 28, 2010

Anidav posted:



Well it looks like NSW Labor is hosed forever.
It would be more helpful if you posted the links to the relevant articles. Like I did a page ago.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Anidav posted:

Well it looks like NSW Labor is hosed forever.

Is this a big thing. From an article I read earlier it basically seems like he'll send a signed letter from his office to other goverment institutions on behalf of any of his constituents if they request it. Doesn't seem particularly bad, although from what I understand there not actually releasing the letter (or at least haven't yet) so possibly there's something not great in it.

Other then this literally know nothing about the guy, so maybe he deserves to be tossed for other reasons, but at the moment this sort of seems like a a bit of a bit up. Anyone from Sydney know if the guys decent (for sydney ALP at least)?

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Looks like NSW Labor forwarded everything including the letter to some inquiry. It doesn't matter though since NSW ALP was going to lose the election anyway despite and god knows how - that corrupt fuckhead resigning over a bottle of grog.

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
The best gig I ever did was 1:30am at the Rocket Room, 10 bucks entry everyone was maggot. The problem is is that venues take the cheap option of "bring all your mates/family" which doesn't translate into a good venue. The Rosemount works because it is a place where you go to see good bands, so people go there to see good bands, so good bands go there to play. Perth is pretty much choked by Champion Music, who do gently caress all and basically ruin the whole thing

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Brisbane is about to turn 50% of its land into a giant fuckoff casino posted:


The Queensland government on Monday released the final "integrated resort development" designs from the two consortiums fighting it out for the city's casino licence at Queen's Wharf in the city centre.

Greenland Group and Crown Resorts have offered up a six-star hotel, two five-star hotels, restaurants - including one headed by renowned chef Neil Perry - public space and a bridge (complete with suspended waterfall) to South Bank, where they will build a new cinema and theatre complex, public space, a water park and of course the all important casino.

The Destination Brisbane consortium, made up of incumbent Brisbane casino owners, Echo Entertainment along with Hong Kong groups Chow Tai Fook Enterprises and the Far East consortium, have gone with a distinctive arc shaped hub.

Their plans includes a publicly accessible sky deck with restaurants and bars, five hotels - three of them six-star, with the Ritz-Carlton and Rosewood already signing on - a "river arena", a riverfront moonlight cinema, "12 football fields of public event space" and an underground shopping mall.

The existing Treasury Casino would be turned into a boutique department store.

South Bank will also benefit. As set out by the government, a bridge will connect Queen's Wharf to the other side of the river, with Destination Brisbane promising a new Lyric Centre.

At the moment, the only information either consortium is allowed to release are the images they have created to showcase their design.

At this stage in the process they are barred from disclosing how big their casinos will be, the number of machines that will be in them, the number of residential apartments versus hotel rooms – anything outside of how the developments will look.

But competition is fierce. Described as a "once in a generation" opportunity, the winning group will not only have the chance to build a landmark resort complex in what, outside of the heritage listed buildings and Riverside Express Way, will be cleared space.

The casino licence is the carrot the government has offered in order to have the resort and hotels built.

"The point was very strongly made to us by international tourist operators that this sort of integrated resort development is the emerging product in the tourism market," Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney said.

"Tourism is one of four pillars of the Queensland economy.

"We have a great many natural wonders which are great tourism attractions for Queensland, but if we are going to be competitive, if we are going to remain competitive in that international tourism market, then we have to offer a product that fills this segment of the market as well.

But with funding for both relying on Asian partners, the probity process is expected to take some time.

"Our probity processes will take as long as they need to take and they will be as thorough as we can make them, irrespective of which individual or which company is involved," Mr Seeney said.

Echo and Crown only just emerged from a bruising battle in Sydney for its casino licence, which the Packer-led Crown group won.

The fight for Brisbane is expected to be just as brutal. The United Voice Union recently came out in support for the Crown bid.

Echo has also admitted that its two existing Queensland properties, The Treasury in Brisbane and Jupiter's on the Gold Coast, had not received as much care and attention as they ought.

Jupiter's is now undergoing a multi-million revamp, which is expected to be completed by 2017. But Echo believes that holding the existing Brisbane licence could be an advantage – it will mean the city will still have just the one casino.

Mr Seeney said he expected both sides to use whatever cards they held in an attempt to gain an advantage.

What Queensland thinks of the designs will only play a small role at this stage of the process. While Mr Seeney said it was important to share the designs, the public was not being formally consulted yet.

"This project is a little different to most procurement processes in that there is an extremely high level of public interest," he said.

"This is the centre of the CBD, this is something that the people of Brisbane have an intense interest in and I think it is something that is right and proper that we share these design concepts in with them and allow them to participate in that discussion.

"We will be certainly be interested in that discussion but I don't pretend for a moment that it is a formal consultation process.

"We had that in the beginning. We'll have another formal consultation process when we put in place the planning instrument for this precinct, but what we want to do today is share these concepts with the people of Brisbane and engage them in a discussion about them."

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

Matthew Beet posted:

gently caress da poors


Word via work channels says that homelessness peak bodies have all had their funding cut (Homelessness Australia, National Shelter, Community Housing Federation Australia, and Financial Counselling Australia.) in addition to some direct service providers such as Highlands and National Shelter.

Well that was quick.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008
I actually unironically hope that Scott Morrison has his throat slit on the street by someone driven to desperation by his governments policies.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

Anidav posted:



Well it looks like NSW Labor is hosed forever.

Paul Keating probably has a guilty smirk on right now.

T-1000
Mar 28, 2010

dr_rat posted:

Is this a big thing. From an article I read earlier it basically seems like he'll send a signed letter from his office to other goverment institutions on behalf of any of his constituents if they request it. Doesn't seem particularly bad, although from what I understand there not actually releasing the letter (or at least haven't yet) so possibly there's something not great in it.

Other then this literally know nothing about the guy, so maybe he deserves to be tossed for other reasons, but at the moment this sort of seems like a a bit of a bit up. Anyone from Sydney know if the guys decent (for sydney ALP at least)?
He has zero media presence, took forever to expel the most corrupt members of the party despite the writing being on the wall for literal years, and has made some questionable moral judgements himself. He's not a total monster, he's held a job outside politics, but he's a party animal and despite the government being nearly as corrupt as Labor is/was, and the Premier resigning, he has failed to deliver any sort of attack. Maybe he's playing the ultra long game where he lets the Liberals win a few elections, long enough to become ultra-corrupt and be purged.

My opinion: the ALP are gonna be total weathervanes on this and if there is strong media opposition they'll freak out and dump him. Kind of like they did Rudd. Everything wrong with Labor has its genesis in NSW because we're the first state. If the Daily Tele have any sense, they'll let this one slide so that Robertson stays in and Labor loses harder. Cash money says this story goes nowhere and Robertson stays in because it's Christmas and nobody (Labor party or general public) cares.

Anidav posted:

Looks like NSW Labor forwarded everything including the letter to some inquiry. It doesn't matter though since NSW ALP was going to lose the election anyway despite and god knows how - that corrupt fuckhead resigning over a bottle of grog.
If by "some inquiry" you mean "to the relevant government department in accordance with the normal duties of local members of parliament", then yes, that is an accurate reading of the situation.
If that wasn't what you meant, read the articles again.

Or if that's too much work:
Executive Summary
1. Dude shows up at his local MP's office. Dude has a grievance with The System. Dude wants his local MP's help in working through/fighting against The System.
2. Dude's specific grievance is that he is having a custody battle with his ex wife and he can't see his kids. Dude has an AVO against him. Dude wants a supervised visitation with his kids on fathers' day. Dude writes a note about all this. Dude has written a lot of letters in the past and the one he wrote was no doubt very interesting in the worst sense of the word.
3. His local MP adds a letter summarising Dude's grievances, including describing Dude's estrangement & AVO, and forwards it to the Department of Family and Community Services with his signature on the cover letter. Because that is what local MP's do. They have to help their constituents navigate The System.
4. Years later, his local MP becomes Opposition Leader. Turns out he's not a very good Opposition Leader. Paul Keating once wrote a mean letter about him.
5. Years later, Dude later allegedly murders his estranged wife, and murders two other people in a siege in a Lindt shop in Sydney.
6. Opposition Leader's party is corrupt, utterly incompetent and riven by internal factions. Their political opponents are nearly as corrupt but slightly more competent. Opposition Leader is guaranteed to lose the next election in three months' time.
7. Bored Opposition spear-carriers and backbenchers latch onto the revelation that Years Ago The Opposition Leader Did Not Do A Background Check On Every One Of Their Constituents That Asked Them For Help And One Of Those Constituents Killed People A Few Years Later as an excuse to stir up internal strife.
8. This is where it gets complicated: alternatively, the whole thing is a false flag by the Opposition Leader himself to make internal rivals appear disloyal. Seven dimensional chess! We are through the looking glass.
9. The media is thrilled for any opportunity to make midrash on the one story they know how to tell well: leadership speculation.
10. Butts.

Executive^2 Summary
A Sydney man got his local member to forward an innocuous letter through bureaucracy to no avail; years later that Sydney man murdered some people; NSW Labor sucks; political journalism sucks; slow news day.

That is the story, taken from articles here and here.

T-1000 fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Dec 22, 2014

CheGayvara
Oct 30, 2010

Anidav posted:

I am in Sunnybank there are so many Mormons here.

I am in Utah, same.

Matthew Beet posted:

Word via work channels says that homelessness peak bodies have all had their funding cut (Homelessness Australia, National Shelter, Community Housing Federation Australia, and Financial Counselling Australia.) in addition to some direct service providers such as Highlands and National Shelter.

In Salt Lake City there are dozens, perhaps a hundred people just milling around outside a homeless shelter near Central TRAX station on any given day. This is in a city of about 200, 000 (1 million metro). You would expect Mormons to be more charitable than most but I guess not; it is a solidly Republican state after all. In California it was even worse. We went to a Carl's Junior on Market Street in San Francisco and the restaurant was literally segregated into 'homeless' and 'non-homeless' sections with black rope and security guards separating the two. By far the homelessness situation was the most jarring thing about moving to America.

Good luck with those cuts I guess.

Edit: Oh and good luck finding public toilets here outside of shopping centres and the like. There aren't even any at the train stations because god forbid a homeless person try and maintain good hygiene I suppose.

UrbanLabyrinth
Jan 28, 2009

When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence


College Slice

Matthew Beet posted:

gently caress da poors


Word via work channels says that homelessness peak bodies have all had their funding cut (Homelessness Australia, National Shelter, Community Housing Federation Australia, and Financial Counselling Australia.) in addition to some direct service providers such as Highlands and National Shelter.

Having grown up in the Southern Highlands, and with my mum working in a community support role there until a month or two ago, gently caress this government.

TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country

ABC News posted:

Three men have been arrested after a brawl in Sydney's south-western suburb of Lakemba.

Police had to separate about 10 men who were fighting shortly after 8:30pm AEDT on Monday night.

Two men suffered minor injuries and a police officer suffered an injury to his shoulder trying to disperse the group.

The ABC has been told anti-Islamic activists were involved.

T-1000
Mar 28, 2010

CheGayvara posted:

We went to a Carl's Junior on Market Street in San Francisco and the restaurant was literally segregated into 'homeless' and 'non-homeless' sections with black rope and security guards separating the two. By far the homelessness situation was the most jarring thing about moving to America.
That'd be the Tenderloin District. That area was probably the worst for homelessness when I was there (maybe Golden Gate Park comes close). Just walking around you'll very often hear someone screaming crazy stuff at the top of their lungs a block or two away. San Fran actually has more aid for the homeless than a lot of other states, and it has winters you don't freeze to death in, which is why they have so many homeless people (according to a guy who was an ex-tour guide who showed us how to find the tram station without getting mugged, and pointed out which guys were waiting for the soup kitchen vs which were drug dealers). It was hugely jarring when I visited too.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Yes but Sunnybank has Asian Mormons and Caucasian Mormans who stalk Chinese women with their Mandarin skills. If it weren't religion related, they would be arrested for stalking and harassment.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

T-1000 posted:

He has zero media presence, took forever to expel the most corrupt members of the party despite the writing being on the wall for literal years, and has made some questionable moral judgements himself. He's not a total monster, he's held a job outside politics, but he's a party animal and despite the government being nearly as corrupt as Labor is/was, and the Premier resigning, he has failed to deliver any sort of attack. Maybe he's playing the ultra long game where he lets the Liberals win a few elections, long enough to become ultra-corrupt and be purged.

My opinion: the ALP are gonna be total weathervanes on this and if there is strong media opposition they'll freak out and dump him. Kind of like they did Rudd. Everything wrong with Labor has its genesis in NSW because we're the first state. If the Daily Tele have any sense, they'll let this one slide so that Robertson stays in and Labor loses harder. Cash money says this story goes nowhere and Robertson stays in because it's Christmas and nobody (Labor party or general public) cares.

Cheers. You know I always hope when labor go into opposition after a big defeat they might take a moment of reflection and do a good purge of the deadwood, get out any of the corruption scandals they know are going to come out in the next few years anyway, and just clean ship, but yeah that never seems to happen. I think both sides have gotten so used to governments going to and fro between each other, changing pretty much when the electorate gets bored enough of the current lot, that both parties realises there's no reason they need to change. Can just keep doing what their doing and no matter how much they screw up, powers eventually going to come back to them when the public's forgotten, and become bored with the other guy.

At least that may be starting to change with the rise of the Greens and the minor parties, but their really is a poo poo load of inertia between the major twos in their back and forth swings.

Adnar
Jul 11, 2002

Fruity Gordo posted:

Lol so I just found out that Ralph Cerminara and some other boneheads from the ADL went to Lakemba this evening to pick a fight and roundly got their arses kicked. Poor old Ralph had his arm broken. :3:

The ADL page is a gas at the moment.. old mate has started posting angsty poetry.

Though I came across this genius solution for boycotting mussos:



GENIUS


edit: haha, footage of their last heroic trip to Lakemba... FMD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNG4rUaxniM

Adnar fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Dec 22, 2014

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Adnar posted:

The ADL page is a gas at the moment.. old mate has started posting angsty poetry.

Though I came across this genius solution for boycotting mussos:



GENIUS

Yeah, let's ignore that most people don't drive diesel cars so that won't work. Even then I'm not sure how good used cooking oil is in a diesel engine, you'd have to filter the hell out of it to get all the crap out.

Turks
Nov 16, 2006

Holy poo poo can we actually trick conservatives into a green revolution by getting them to boycott oil?

Shanakin
Mar 26, 2010

The whole point of stats are lost if you keep it a secret. Why Didn't you tell the world eh?

Turks posted:

Holy poo poo can we actually trick conservatives into a green revolution by getting them to boycott oil?

Oil is poo poo mate. The future is about coal, haven't you heard?

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

Shanakin posted:

Oil is poo poo mate. The future is about coal, haven't you heard?

Everyone will want a kid now so they have someone to fit in the boot and shovel coal into the burner.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

where would they build this mega casino without knocking down half of southbank and the riverside expressway?

Neif
Jul 26, 2012

Adnar posted:

The ADL page is a gas at the moment.. old mate has started posting angsty poetry.

Though I came across this genius solution for boycotting mussos:



GENIUS


edit: haha, footage of their last heroic trip to Lakemba... FMD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNG4rUaxniM

I thought initially someone had lampooned the video by adding the soul stirring "Frodo goes to Mordor" music, but nope it's on the official ADL you tube page.

That's loving hilarious.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
It also begs the question, is Brisbane really big enough for two casinos?

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Anidav posted:

It also begs the question, is Brisbane really big enough for two casinos?

It's probably more about tourism, domestic and international.

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Concatenation
Jul 23, 2005

Your human mentality cries out for vengeance and thrives on the violence you say you can hardly endure.

redweird posted:

The best gig I ever did was 1:30am at the Rocket Room, 10 bucks entry everyone was maggot. The problem is is that venues take the cheap option of "bring all your mates/family" which doesn't translate into a good venue. The Rosemount works because it is a place where you go to see good bands, so people go there to see good bands, so good bands go there to play. Perth is pretty much choked by Champion Music, who do gently caress all and basically ruin the whole thing

Rockets is great because you can pack it out and pocket an easy grand with maybe 100 people, plus it's nice and central. Pity the stage is the size of a postage stamp, and, also, they don't do anything that isn't either strippers or cover bands any more.

The live music scene in Perth is getting dire lately, apparently show attendances are down across the board and with club nights like Last Night and all the others, it's very hard to even book a decent venue yourself. apparently the people that own metro's freo are losing money hand over fist on it, and since they also own a couple of other venues they've told the venue managers to tighten the belt and not take any risks

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