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Abner Assington posted:Mr. Rogers? I'm having a hard time finding anything that sounds awful about him other than all the made up poo poo about how he was a sharpshooter in the SEALs. That was a bad joke about how Shbobdb stripped the quote and didn't say which of the two conservatives he was talking about. 
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Sarcastr0 posted:I dunno if you want to start assuming your opinions are so obviously correct that you have no choice but ti have contempt for all who disagree with you. Conservatism of the sort I'm talking about is sociopathy acquired from a lifetime of having political power over people you've never met and whose lives you have absolutely zero conception of outside of what the local Rush clone tells you. So I might actually classify it as a mental disorder, yes
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Idris Elba already has a history of pissing off racist white people. When he was cast as Heimdall the Asatru tears flowed in abundance.
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beatlegs posted:You know, Limbaugh has always been a sack of poo poo but at least he used to try and make cogent arguments defending his views. Now it's just non-stop projection. It's like he's not even trying anymore. Yeah, this is what I thought was the case, but I wasn't sure if my brain was misremembering, or just giving Rush way too much credit. He was always a blowhard, but he seemed knowledgeable enough and articulate enough to be able to successfully talk down to his audience. Like, you would know who was supposed to be the teacher and who was the student. But listening to him now, it's mostly just lazy projection, with extremely simple, facile arguments that make him easily interchangeable with any one of his idiot listeners.
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AShamefulDisplay posted:Idris Elba already has a history of pissing off racist white people. Isn't that also why he wasn't Doctor Who?
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Screaming Idiot posted:So you're basing your judgment on broad generalization without any hard data to back it up? I can hear the whistle he is blowing clear as day. I'm just telling you what I hear, plus a quick preamble listing other reasons contributing to his Republicanism. icantfindaname gave some good cultural context to this sort of thing. Shbobdb fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Dec 24, 2014 |
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AShamefulDisplay posted:Idris Elba already has a history of pissing off racist white people. When he was cast as Heimdall the Asatru tears flowed in abundance. I nearly started a Change.org petition because of that. Decided it was dumb, I don't care about James Bond, but maybe I was wrong?
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beatlegs posted:Or being pro-torture. I can get behind your first 2, and refusing the Obamacare funds, but the others are all from your assumptions. I agree with you, but I'm not willing to go full dehumanization on someone just because they're wrong. Like, they literally think the creepy ultrasound thing is saving babies. And the VAWA was renewed, even with the (dumb) worry that the expansion to bisexual people could be used against religious speech. Governers know better about refusing the Obamacare medicare expansion, but rank and file GOP think it's fighting socialism. I know I suffer fools more gladly than most, but IMO life's too short to hate non politios for their politics.
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icantfindaname posted:Conservatism of the sort I'm talking about is sociopathy acquired from a lifetime of having political power over people you've never met and whose lives you have absolutely zero conception of outside of what the local Rush clone tells you. So I might actually classify it as a mental disorder, yes Blinkered idiocy is not sociopathy. Especially as it's mostly limited to strangers. That's not how sociopathy works. And it's not too different from some on the left laying broad-brush hate on the South. Dehumanizing the opposition allows some pretty loathsome behavior, but it is a natural tribal impulse. It's the key to a lot of the right's excesses, and I do what I can to avoid it in myself.
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Rush Limbaugh posted:How about in the movie about the Obamas, 'cause there's gonna be one, how about George Clooney play Obama and Kate Hudson play Michelle (My Belle) Obama? How would that do? I mean, if we're gonna do this, let's imagine it. Nelson Mandela movie, Idris Elba played Nelson Mandela and Nelson Mandela was black. The movies can do whatever. Kelsey Grammer as Nelson Mandela. How about that? We're just playing here, ladies and gentlemen. Every loving one of his examples is a real person, not a fictional character like Bond. Nice comparison, Rush. Because the James Bond pictures were all biopics, you fat disingenuous retard.
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Screaming Idiot posted:Yeah, but I can't bring myself to use the words he's thinking of. White. White is the word he's thinking of. Because he's a fat racist gently caress.
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Orange Devil posted:Since when does Bond drink loving vodka? ???
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Orange Devil posted:Since when does Bond drink loving vodka? Dr No. Even the original cocktail in casino royale is a mixture of gin and vodka so since always.
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Eh, my bad then. I just always remembered it solely as a martini. Anyway, this assault on my childhood memories will not stand so pretend I now say some clever things about differently coloured drinks being unfit or whatever.
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Orange Devil posted:Eh, my bad then. I just always remembered it solely as a martini. It is. Vodka martini that is.
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Amused to Death posted:It is. 
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beatlegs posted:I'm long past the point where I give a poo poo how nice or personally decent someone is. If the polices they defend unnecessarily hurt people and they willingly ignore that fact, they don't deserve any respect. Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show, I should really just relax."
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beatlegs posted:I'm long past the point where I give a poo poo how nice or personally decent someone is. If the polices they defend unnecessarily hurt people and they willingly ignore that fact, they don't deserve any respect. Relax he isn't some narcissistic primadonna like Adam Baldwin so what's your problem?
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I know we're done with Mr.Cowger for the moment but I wanted to point out that is the personification of this Onion video. I'm looking forward to seeing him join the ranks of our thread regulars as he evolves from a fresh, rosy-cheeked podcaster into an overweight, thin-haired radio host in the coming years. Life is beautiful.
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Man there is some good money in being a right-wing shill. I bet this kid is raking it in. Maybe I should get a radio show. I could be the token gay conservative against LBGT rights, selling my schtick to old people that if they let the militant gay agenda have its way, Obamatroopers will be holding down their grandchildren as they're sodomized in a blood-drenched satanic ritual in their former neighborhood church 
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VitalSigns posted:
Michael Savage beat you to it.
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Idran posted:I didn't realize Fred Rogers was so awful. Roger's went before congress to advocate funding public television. http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/fredrogerssenatetestimonypbs.htm (I have this terrifying vision of how this would be handeled by the Ted Cruz and reported on by Rush Limbaugh btw.) I don't think he's a "Conservative" by any stretch of the word. Christian? You bet your rear end. But in the best way possible. Jesus would have been beyond proud of him. Also Bonus? Fox News hates the guy.
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I go to Mediaite every one in a while because, while it's a terrible site, I get a glance of what the 24-hour news will be chattering about for the next while. Today I saw a headline that I was sure was a joke about the trend that Al Sharpton is blamed for every problem in the world, until I read the article: Al Sharpton Arguably Now the most Powerful Person in America
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Idran posted:That was a bad joke about how Shbobdb stripped the quote and didn't say which of the two conservatives he was talking about.  My ability to detect Internet sarcasm dwindles in the late night hours, apparently.
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Dr Christmas posted:I go to Mediaite every one in a while because, while it's a terrible site, I get a glance of what the 24-hour news will be chattering about for the next while. Black person has power; is this the end of white people?!
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Black person has power; is this the end of white people?!
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Duke Igthorn posted:Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show, I should really just relax." Crowsbeak posted:Relax he isn't some narcissistic primadonna like Adam Baldwin so what's your problem? Wasn't referring to Mike Nelson specifically, just saying that people who knowingly support policies that harm innocent people are assholes, and those who use public platforms to push those policies don't deserve any respect. e: also I was reacting to that poster's comment that if Repubs were more like Nelson he might become a Republican....but it seems like everything you need to believe in to be a Republican these days ensures that you're going to be supporting policies that hurt people. Therefore if the GOP aligned with "nice guys" like Nelson it wouldn't really be the GOP anymore. Also it brings up the question, why would nice guys like Nelson support a party that advocates suffering? If you're truly an empathetic person, why not just become a centrist Democrat? beatlegs fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Dec 24, 2014 |
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Dr Christmas posted:I go to Mediaite every one in a while because, while it's a terrible site, I get a glance of what the 24-hour news will be chattering about for the next while. Joe Concha...of course.
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Sarcastr0 posted:I can get behind your first 2, and refusing the Obamacare funds, but the others are all from your assumptions. I agree with you, but I'm not willing to go full dehumanization on someone just because they're wrong.
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Does anyone know where I can find Michael Savage's show from last night? I caught a bit of it on my way to work and it was a window into his goddamn psyche, I swear. He was going through old family photo like flashcards and saying the most candid, revealing poo poo, like: "My old neighborhood was full of garbage and underwear hanging out of people's windows. Like Chinatown." "Skipping this one, Don't talk to them anymore." "There's that dog that bit me down my shin." "Here I am holding a cigarette in a faggy* way. I don't mean that in derogatory way." *paraphrasing these, but he straight up said "faggy" on the air "Forget that one. That's when I started getting fat." "My dad used to think me and my friends were gay because we wore colors." "Should I stop? Does everyone just want me to complain about Obama?" "There's that table where the dog bit me down my shin." "Let me tell this story about my uncle. Well, maybe I shouldn't tell it. You know what? I'm going to tell it because maybe his kids will talk to me again if I do." "Here I am holding a cigarette like a fag again. I think this is from the same event." "Here I am with a big, ugly beard. Why do kids these day grow big, ugly beards?" literally - those two thoughts, one right after the other "My uncle was a jerk. He was nice to me when I was a kid, but when I became a teenager, I was a threat. He started to pick on me. Hard worker, though." "Should I stop? Call in and tell me if you want me to keep going. [continues anyway]" "Here's that dog with the monster teeth." It was glorious. I was only in the car for, like, fifteen minutes. And he still had time to bring on a couple of callers who got all of one sentence out before he hung up on them. I have to hear the rest of that show.
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beatlegs posted:Wasn't referring to Mike Nelson specifically, just saying that people who knowingly support policies that harm innocent people are assholes, and those who use public platforms to push those policies don't deserve any respect. You know, the type of person that doesn't really think about the issues and, when pressed on a specific issue, always backs down to agree that Liberal policies are what you're supposed to do to be a good person and will insist #notallConservatives when you point to the bad ones
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Listen, guys, I love MST3k as much as the next goon, but it's entirely possible that Mike Nelson simply has horrible political beliefs.
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Abner Assington posted:Listen, guys, I love MST3k as much as the next goon, but it's entirely possible that Mike Nelson simply has horrible political beliefs. And without any specific instances of him saying horrible poo poo it's a very boring topic to dwell on.
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Duke Igthorn posted:There's a chance he's a "Common Sense Republican" who doesn't really follow politics so he just kinda believes what Right Wing sources say being a Conservative is "Of course I'm a Conservative: I like freedom and apple pie and God too! People should work hard and respect their elders and ect. That's what they say they're for and I am too!" But you'd think after going through that process of admission several times, something would click and they'd realize, "hey, maybe Republican policies are hurtful and maybe I'm just being foolish and stubborn by staying loyal to this party and maybe it's beneath my level of intelligence to keep my head stuck in the sand about it". I guess I just don't understand "nice" people who refuse to acknowledge suffering they've contributed to when it's right in front of their face.
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Good Citizen posted:And without any specific instances of him saying horrible poo poo it's a very boring topic to dwell on. That's pretty much what I'm getting at. Sure, the guy's a Christian, so was Fred Rogers, that doesn't make Nelson a bad person. And hey, he lives in an area full of assholes, all that proves is that he has family there and doesn't want to leave. Show me a specific instance of him talking about those "poor uppity negras  " and I'll be the first to denounce him as an utter cock.Not understanding the harm caused by conservative policies doesn't make someone intrinsically bad -- it just makes them naive at best, or stupid at worst. The true evil comes when the regressive in question says that poor people should be left to starve and die of sickness in a gutter, just as Pure White American Jesus would have wanted.
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