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mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008

goatse guy posted:

Hyundai USA has declared that all leads that come in on Christmas Eve must be answered, even if the dealership is closed. I volunteered to do it because my coworkers have friends and family and actual plans for Christmas Eve.

I hope you're not spending Christmas Eve and Christmas by yourself.

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Git Mah Belt Son
Apr 26, 2003

Happy Happy Gators

Cakefool posted:

Who buys a car on Christmas eve?

Unless they're really desperate for a last minute present

I took delivery on my new car today, I guess that's sort of buying a car? Though it was just final F&I paperwork and going through how to use MyFord Touch with the salesman.

goatse guy
Jan 23, 2007
hello im back in ai buy me avatars plz :-*

Cakefool posted:

Who buys a car on Christmas eve?

Unless they're really desperate for a last minute present

People who don't care about Christmas, and don't care that other people care about Christmas.

mariooncrack posted:

I hope you're not spending Christmas Eve and Christmas by yourself.

I am. I don't have any friends or family around here. Just gonna be me, my dog Harry, and Jim Beam.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

goatse guy posted:

I sound like a sarcastic Midwestern Valley Girl most of the time.

slidebite, it really is kind of an insane demand but we're in the minority being closed today. Most of the other dealerships in the local area are open today.

So blue laws in MN mean I can buy a car on xmas eve, but not sunday?

exempt
Dec 10, 2006

nm posted:

So blue laws in MN mean I can buy a car on xmas eve, but not sunday?

I guess, unless Christmas Eve is on a Sunday.

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot

goatse guy posted:

I sound like a sarcastic Midwestern Valley Girl most of the time.

I find this hard to believe.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

BrokenKnucklez posted:

I find this hard to believe.

I got ten bucks that says Goatse Guy's got the a dirtier mouth than half of AI.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

BrokenKnucklez posted:

I find this hard to believe.

I heard this in a sarcastic Midwestern valley girl accent in my head.

goatse guy
Jan 23, 2007
hello im back in ai buy me avatars plz :-*

nm posted:

So blue laws in MN mean I can buy a car on xmas eve, but not sunday?

Yep! I used to really hate blue laws back when I was a boozehound, and was actively involved with lobbying for Sunday liquor sales, but now that I work in a dealership I'm okay with it.

Rhyno posted:

I got ten bucks that says Goatse Guy's got the a dirtier mouth than half of AI.

There are two sides to Goatse. There's customer service Goatse, who is sweet as a peach and good at faking extroversion. I have been complimented on my friendliness (!!!) many times. My coworkers can't understand how I can be so upbeat and smiley on the phone.

Then there's actual Goatse, who is surly and probably has the filthiest mouth in all of AI.

Hit an Apex
Dec 2, 2004

Real Racing. Real Sport.
When I leased my last Mazda, I did the entire thing over the phone with a dealer upstate that had the car I had and was spouting the least amount of bullshit.

While there, there were only two things that bothered me - the manager educating me on their $600 wheel and tire warranty (go gently caress yourself) and forgetting to tell me the lease included a credit union account with the leasing bank. Can't wait to close that when the lease is up.

But the best part happened on the way home, that burning smell with a car with TWO miles on it. They had inflated (or never deflated) the tires at 50 psi each. Of course, in the glove box was the pre-purchase inspection saying everything was good, with someone's signature. Mazda Corporate got a letter from that, and felt generous enough to give me a $50 gift card to use. I hope someone in that service department got a stern talking to.

Edit: Glad I know enough about cars to check tires now and then, I think someone normal would have had no idea, probably resulting in lots of tire abuse or blow outs, etc.

Beverly Cleavage
Jun 22, 2004

I am a pretty pretty princess, watch me do my pretty princess dance....

Cakefool posted:

Who buys a car on Christmas eve?

Unless they're really desperate for a last minute present

Not quite christmas eve, and it has been brewing for a bit, but anecdotally - My buddy/coworker walked into a honda dealership and bought a new base model honda fit on tuesday. so, you can never really know/tell when people are going to be bitten buy the bug to buy something.

goatse guy posted:


Then there's actual Goatse, who is surly and probably has the filthiest mouth in all of AI.

Now you're just bragging. Prove it.

Beverly Cleavage fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Dec 26, 2014

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

Hit an Apex posted:

But the best part happened on the way home, that burning smell with a car with TWO miles on it. They had inflated (or never deflated) the tires at 50 psi each.
Ok, obviously 50 psi sounds is way too much for a car tire but where does the burning smell come from?

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

Cage posted:

Ok, obviously 50 psi sounds is way too much for a car tire but where does the burning smell come from?

Just sounds like new engine smell to me. Mine had a burning smell for the first 15 miles or so.

West SAAB Story
Mar 13, 2014

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 206 days!)

Cage posted:

Ok, obviously 50 psi sounds is way too much for a car tire but where does the burning smell come from?

Hit an Apex posted:

When I leased my last Mazda

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
Oh, I stupidly thought they were related somehow.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
.
It's hard to go to a dealership with automotive ADD and not look like a joyrider - today I'm probably going to look at a Cayman S, Esprit S4, and a...9-4x Aero? At least the first two are both mid-engined with a similar asking price. The third is too much of an anomaly not to check out.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
What are the chances Ill get to test drive one of those new mustangs if I show up on the lot with a 04 GT?

West SAAB Story
Mar 13, 2014

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 206 days!)

blk posted:

It's hard to go to a dealership with automotive ADD and not look like a joyrider - today I'm probably going to look at a Cayman S, Esprit S4, and a...9-4x Aero? At least the first two are both mid-engined with a similar asking price. The third is too much of an anomaly not to check out.

I've seen exactly one 9-4x, and that was at a car show. I've seen three Turbo Xs not at a car show. Ok, so one of them is mine. v:v:v

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
I saw a 9-4x on the road in Santa Monica. My buddy made me follow it and then lept out and started taking photos of it like the paparazzi. Dude inside seemed very confused.

goatse guy posted:

Then there's actual Goatse, who is surly and probably has the filthiest mouth in all of AI.

Challenge accepted. I've had felons who've spent more time in prison than out ask me to tone it down.

Edit: sad fact, we both lose to any random blue collar English dude.

nm fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Dec 26, 2014

jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-jammyozzy.gif"><br>Is that a challenge?

nm posted:

Edit: sad fact, we both lose to any random blue collar English dude.

This is probably true, the machinist at my first gig taught me some of my filthiest and funniest language. "Fanny batter" was a particularly good one.

goatse guy
Jan 23, 2007
hello im back in ai buy me avatars plz :-*

Hit an Apex posted:

While there, there were only two things that bothered me - the manager educating me on their $600 wheel and tire warranty (go gently caress yourself) and forgetting to tell me the lease included a credit union account with the leasing bank. Can't wait to close that when the lease is up.

But the best part happened on the way home, that burning smell with a car with TWO miles on it. They had inflated (or never deflated) the tires at 50 psi each. Of course, in the glove box was the pre-purchase inspection saying everything was good, with someone's signature. Mazda Corporate got a letter from that, and felt generous enough to give me a $50 gift card to use. I hope someone in that service department got a stern talking to.

I'd be pretty upset about the credit union account, but pushing the extra warranties is where dealerships make a lot of money.

Dealership horror stories don't surprise me anymore. A lot of our techs come to my desk to bitch about other techs, so I get to hear about everyone's gently caress ups.

Speaking of service department horror stories, one of our service advisors had enough of the horseshit and quit with no notice last week. It's a bummer, because the customers loved him and he was an all-around nice guy, but I get the impression that there's a lot of bullshit workplace politics going on back in their department.

blk posted:

It's hard to go to a dealership with automotive ADD and not look like a joyrider - today I'm probably going to look at a Cayman S, Esprit S4, and a...9-4x Aero? At least the first two are both mid-engined with a similar asking price. The third is too much of an anomaly not to check out.

Salesmen hate you, FYI.

Cage posted:

What are the chances Ill get to test drive one of those new mustangs if I show up on the lot with a 04 GT?

If you play your cards right, the chances are good. It's going to depend on dealership policies, the salesman, and what they think of you.

nm posted:

Challenge accepted. I've had felons who've spent more time in prison than out ask me to tone it down.

ssjonizuka posted:

Now you're just bragging. Prove it.

I used to work with felons and high school kids in restaurants. It's pretty bad.

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
Those felons are making my sandwich... It used to worry me but it turns out they make great food.

Hit an Apex
Dec 2, 2004

Real Racing. Real Sport.

Cage posted:

What are the chances Ill get to test drive one of those new mustangs if I show up on the lot with a 04 GT?

I have found an answer of "yes" to the impending "are you ready to do a deal today?" question will make this happen. If not it depends how they size you up. On my last car buying expedition, I had a tight time window and once they found that out they were throwing me keys.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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goatse guy posted:



Salesmen hate you, FYI.



Show me in my post where I say I have no intention of buying a car.

When I worked at a large dealership chain, most sales people had the entitled-to-a-sale vibe your post suggests to me. Customers are supposed to be ready to walk in, plunk down cash, and walk out with minimal effort required of the sales person - anything beyond that made them a "difficult customer." Most sales people I've met feel entitled to a conversion from every single person who walks on the lot. That is not how good retail works, and it is seriously unprofessional.

Now allow me to make an analogy. Let's say I'm in the market for some high end clothing off the rack. I go to a store with an idea of what I want but not a great idea of how it will work for me. I want to try it on first and see if it works as well in person as it does in my head. If it does, great. If it doesn't, and the store doesn't have anything else convincing, I leave. In most commerce situations, that's fine. In car sales, it makes the sales person hold a grudge against a potential customer for "wasting their time." Brooks Brothers or [$retailer with good service] would never complain about a customer "wasting their time." Most sales people at my previous dealership sat around on their rear end watching porn at their desks, then complained about customers "wasting their time."

There's a lot of bullshit that comes along with being a car sales person - paperwork, lovely managers, orders from corporate - all of these are faults of the dealership model, but they caused my colleagues to hate their job and give them the idea that they're doing a lot more for a customer than they really are. I don't envy their job, but they're hating the players instead of the game.

A salesperson's job, at the end of the day, is to find a buyer what they want, even if the customer doesn't know what that is yet. You're not going to be successful every time. Just because the dollar numbers are bigger and there's more paperwork involved doesn't mean you owe a potential customer any less than lower-stakes retail businesses.

I have cash in my pocket for a sports car and an intention of buying one. Today I may be convinced to buy a particular car I'm interested in, or I may learn that a model isn't right for me. Even if I don't buy today, if the sales person does a good job, I'll come back to them later, and possibly even later for service. I always go in telling them where I'm at: "I'm probably not buying today," or "I've heard about these and would like to try one out, would that be OK?" because I don't want to take them away from a potential sale from another customer who walks on at the same time.

I get why salespeople don't like their jobs, but it's not the customer's fault. The only solutions I can think of are to eliminate dealerships, eliminate commissions, or put in a middle tier staffer who's job is to show a customer the basics of a car/conduct test drive/etc, then pass them on to a sales person when they're serious.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

BrokenKnucklez posted:

Those felons are making my sandwich... It used to worry me but it turns out they make great food.

My favorite breakfast place hires a bunch of parolees in the kitchen. A lot of them go on to some of regions best resturants.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

nm posted:

My favorite breakfast place hires a bunch of parolees in the kitchen. A lot of them go on to some of regions best resturants.

They make a killer omelette. :haw:

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



nm posted:

My favorite breakfast place hires a bunch of parolees in the kitchen. A lot of them go on to some of regions best resturants.

Honestly if there's anyone I'd want preparing my food, it's someone who knows their way around a knife.

goatse guy
Jan 23, 2007
hello im back in ai buy me avatars plz :-*
We got five inches of snow overnight here in the Twin Cities. Someone tried to steal the dealership's plow truck last night and hosed up the dash and steering column and made it inoperable, so that will make cleaning up today interesting.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

goatse guy posted:

We got five inches of snow overnight here in the Twin Cities. Someone tried to steal the dealership's plow truck last night and hosed up the dash and steering column and made it inoperable, so that will make cleaning up today interesting.

Like 5 years ago there was a rash of plow thefts here. Not the whole truck, just the plows.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


goatse guy posted:

There are two sides to Goatse. There's customer service Goatse, who is sweet as a peach and good at faking extroversion. I have been complimented on my friendliness (!!!) many times. My coworkers can't understand how I can be so upbeat and smiley on the phone.

Then there's actual Goatse, who is surly and probably has the filthiest mouth in all of AI.

So this is pretty much you?

goatse guy
Jan 23, 2007
hello im back in ai buy me avatars plz :-*

KozmoNaut posted:

So this is pretty much you?



Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

My Tinder bio used to have relevant information but now it just says, "Looking for my future husband."

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
You should add "I have always wanted to own a race car since I was a little boy".

But let's be honest... No one reads tinder profiles.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


goatse guy posted:

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

My Tinder bio used to have relevant information but now it just says, "Looking for my future husband."

You should have "looking for my future ex-husband" instead.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

KozmoNaut posted:

So this is pretty much you?



hahahahahaa I can't stop laughing at this. I mean there's dirty and then there's dirty.

goatse guy
Jan 23, 2007
hello im back in ai buy me avatars plz :-*
I thought that line was really funny and stuck it in my profile just in case anyone ever reads it.



I think I'm doing this wrong???

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
edit: was rude but still a good point. oh well

Cage fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Dec 29, 2014

goatse guy
Jan 23, 2007
hello im back in ai buy me avatars plz :-*
My momma always said, "If you don't have anything nice to say, shut the gently caress up and get out of my thread."

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
My momma always said lol monkey cheese random texts.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


goatse guy posted:

I thought that line was really funny and stuck it in my profile just in case anyone ever reads it.



I think I'm doing this wrong???

People on dating sites/apps take themselves way too seriously and/or are way too desperate for their own good. I enjoy your little Tinder misadventures, it helps me forget how terrible online dating can be.

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Dec 29, 2014

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meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Damnit, I missed the drama.

How's your month ending up, goatse?

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