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bhsman posted:There was also stuff like them completely loving up the translation for one card and making the English version incredibly powerful. I think it was a baboon that ate souls; it could only exile (using MTG terms here) creature cards for an attack boost originally, but the American translation changed this to any card type. This had no other cost and was loving bullshit as a result. Ah, Bazoo the Soul Eater.  It was me, I made the mill deck around this mistranslated card. I really enjoyed the thought of a big ol baboon eating discard magic juice and then slamming it's big butt into my opponent's face. Also, butt jokes were still funny in those days. Youth.
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Gumdrop Larry posted:I played Yu-Gi-Oh as my initial card game as a kid and I was blown away after transitioning to Magic to learn that you were allowed to use cards that are in any language. I distinctly remember people saying in regards to YGO that yeah, the reason you can't have cards of a different language is because they literally do different things depending on what language they're written in.
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Applebees posted:I'm not sure which card you mean by Magosi. I mean Minamo, I get my legendary blue lands mixed up.
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So, Ugin exists. And he's pretty sweet. (http://media.wizards.com/2014/ujehvsbfrf153/en_w54r4t295i.png) Reverse Nicol Bolas!
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Niton posted:So, Ugin exists. And he's pretty sweet. Now can I run it in GR Tron in place of Karn? Hmmmm... forbidden lesbian posted:Whoa, that minus x is pretty much an ultimate all of it's own Can I -X for 0 and blow up all lands like an incredible shitheel? Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Dec 25, 2014 |
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Dec 25, 2014 06:02
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Whoa, that minus x is pretty much an ultimate all of it's own
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Dec 25, 2014 06:02
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That -x ability is house. Jeez. Talk about protecting himself.
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Count Bleck posted:Now can I run it in GR Tron in place of Karn? Hmmmm... If Painter's Servant is out or if they're all Dryad Arbors, sure.
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Myriad Truths posted:If Painter's Servant is out or if they're all Dryad Arbors, sure. I figured as much. I merely assumed it'd work that was seeing as for the purpose of Trinket Mage fetching artifact lands, they do count as permanents with CMCs. And then I continued reading the second ability. 
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Niton posted:So, Ugin exists. And he's pretty sweet. Where was he spoiled at? EDIT: nm, found it Oldsrocket_27 fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Dec 25, 2014 |
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Dec 25, 2014 06:08
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I like that minus effect. You could work very well in RG ramp too. Not as good as M14 Garruk, but it can do alot of damage.
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Dec 25, 2014 06:09
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Am I missing something, or is there a reason that the -X doesn't read "Exile each colored permanent with converted mana cost X or less"? That template seems awkward.
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Count Bleck posted:I figured as much. Look, he's already good enough, let's not make him unfathomable. Well, "good enough", 8 mana is a lot, but I think maybe because of how good green is and how long games go nowadays that might not be impossible. I might just be a dreamer tho...
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Ugin's -X can't hit Nicol Bolas without being +ed first, which I think is pretty fitting. It's still a pretty massive wipe, especially if you're playing a Morph-heavy deck. (I wonder why they went with that phrasing and not 'each colored permanent with CMC X or less'.) e: I'm going to call his -X Pernicious Dust.
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forbidden lesbian posted:Look, he's already good enough, let's not make him unfathomable. Well, "good enough", 8 mana is a lot, but I think maybe because of how good green is and how long games go nowadays that might not be impossible. I just want to slam him in the control decks and see if he works as a wincon.
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Count Bleck posted:Now can I run it in GR Tron in place of Karn? Hmmmm... Costing 8 instead of 7 is big as you can play ugin t4 at the earliest, but that -X is really strong. T3 karn/coil is probably what the deck still wants to do but I can see ugin getting played. U/x controll in standard seems like a great place for him.
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Count Bleck posted:Now can I run it in GR Tron in place of Karn? Hmmmm... Not that I've played the deck, but wouldn't costing 1 more than a natural Tron be kind of rough? I mean, he does poo poo all over a bunch of stuff when he comes in...
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Dec 25, 2014 06:16
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Thanks for this, I had no idea. Ugin is cool.
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I like that he has the same CMC as Dig Through Time and his Ultimate is like a Super Dig Through Time
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Boco_T posted:I like that he has the same CMC as Dig Through Time and his Ultimate is like a Super Dig Through Time not really?
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Boco_T posted:I like that he has the same CMC as Dig Through Time and his Ultimate is like a Super Dig Through Time I like how his abilities encompass every single color on the pie. Even black. Sort of.
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The Lord of Hats posted:Not that I've played the deck, but wouldn't costing 1 more than a natural Tron be kind of rough? I mean, he does poo poo all over a bunch of stuff when he comes in... Doesn't stop sundering titan from being a strong singleton in u-tron decks. I'm loving Ugin. He may actually fit well into control tron decks seeing as how he can boardwipe when you drop him, and he provides a clock with his +2. Not sure how useful he will be in standard though.
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Count Bleck posted:I just want to slam him in the control decks and see if he works as a wincon. Besides maybe Elspeth, what other permenants would you have?
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GoutPatrol posted:Besides maybe Elspeth, what other permenants would you have? Pearl Lake Ancient? Banishing Lights? Vaults? ..Ashiok? Fingers McLongDong posted:Doesn't stop sundering titan from being a strong singleton in u-tron decks. Please, Please. I'm doing this when Fate Reforged comes out. I am getting exciting thinking about turn 4 "Ugin, -3, dispose of the riffraff." Next turn "Wurmcoil, plus Ugin, bolt you" Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Dec 25, 2014 |
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GoutPatrol posted:Besides maybe Elspeth, what other permenants would you have? All the lands
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forbidden lesbian posted:All the lands I would dig a standard Lands.dek
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GoutPatrol posted:I would dig a standard Lands.dek Pull 4 Radiant Fountains as part of your 7, gain 15 life. Talk about gettin' sad.
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Count Bleck posted:I like how his abilities encompass every single color on the pie. Even black. Sort of. His +2 is obviously R, his -X is basically Pernicious Deed which is B/G, and his ult is pretty W/U.
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vOv posted:His +2 is obviously R, his -X is basically Pernicious Deed which is B/G, and his ult is pretty W/U. His ult is also very green, as well.
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I'd run it in white blue control. He's probably too expensive still, but with a ridiculously flexible board wipe and the ability to follow up more than well enough, he's got to see play somewhere, even if it's not standard.
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How much standard play did Bolas see in his time?
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Also, duals in FRF boostersquote:Therefore, in Fate Reforged booster packs, the basic land slot may contain nonbasic lands.[1] You may get one of the ten common Khans of Tarkir dual lands—Dismal Backwater, Jungle Hollow, and friends. They will have new artwork and the Fate Reforged expansion symbol. I don't really understand this part though quote:[1] Certain languages—Korean, Portuguese, Chinese (Traditional), and Russian—will also contain basic lands in this slot at a high frequency alongside nonbasic lands, as Fate Reforged basic lands will not otherwise be printed in those languages.
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dragon enthusiast posted:Also, duals in FRF boosters Basically, I can buy a box of FRF and maybe get some fetches. Neato. Rinkles posted:How much standard play did Bolas see in his time? I think it'd be easier to ask "how much play did Karn see during his standard time?" Which I think was a lot. Bolas has a restrictive as hell casting cost. Ugin does not. You just need to tap 8 lands as opposed to 4 lands, an island, two swamps, and a mountain.
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Rinkles posted:How much standard play did Bolas see in his time? I'm pretty sure cruel ultimatum was the preferred finisher in those colors (and in the 5 color decks) his first time around. And He barely saw any play the second time around.
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dragon enthusiast posted:I don't really understand this part though The sentence seems to directly contradict its own nonsense. It could mean anything, but I think maybe it's saying that there's a higher chance of a basic land there than the English packs?
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Wait, does that mean FRF has its own basics?
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BJPaskoff posted:The sentence seems to directly contradict its own nonsense. It could mean anything, but I think maybe it's saying that there's a higher chance of a basic land there than the English packs? That's also what I'm guessing. Probably due to the printing process for certain other countries, they can't quite do the same thing as in the US?
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Count Bleck posted:Basically, I can buy a box of FRF and maybe get some fetches. Neato. Unless I'm misunderstanding something, that says only the common duals.
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Elyv posted:Unless I'm misunderstanding something, that says only the common duals. Nope.
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One thing about modern magic art I'm not going to complain about are the lands. (Okay I do prefer the original Rob Alexander fetches, but those are some gorgeous landscapes in that article)
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