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Absurd Alhazred posted:Cross-posting from the Food Addiction thread: "Cheese is literally, physiologically addictive." Isn't that true of everything delicious to some degree though?
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Mo_Steel posted:However you like. If I did it that way I wouldn't do it. I'm doing this for the thread and for D & D, I might as well do it the right way and not half rear end it with an inferior service. quote:I typically am interested to see the ones that LL101 explicitly make themselves over the ones they are just cross-linking, but go for what you feel. Who What Now posted:You do whatever makes it most Speaking of which, Part 1of the Roundup! Seeing the Hobbit with some friends tonight at a late night show, so I'm probably not going to post part 3 til either really late or early morning. So I'll make sure you have something to go up. This week in LL 101!  Replace democrats with Republicans, and you actually have the reality.  WHAT INQUISITION AND MILITANT GROUPS IN AFRICA?!!?  Whitey here laughs at the renewed racism that Obamas blackness has brought out.  Is there a term for when someone who is just wrong about everything is disingenuously making the right argument in the right way, but you know they're going to segue it into something retarded and wrong?  "Why is the man whose job is to keep Americans alive worried about what keeps killing Americans?"  [qiuote]Some Atheists got together and had a contest to come up with their own Ten Commandments. Judged by Adam Savage (of Myth Busters) they came up with the following, meaningless drivel. “1. Be open-minded and be willing to alter your beliefs with new evidence.” Unless it’s concerning theistic religion, specifically Christianity, then close that mind very tight and reject anything that even remotely has anything to do with it. In fact, anything that might contradict the religion of Evolution, shut that out, too. Call it “religious dogma” and refuse to listen to it whether it’s math, physics, biology or simply logic, if it contradicts the current Evolutionist Dogma, close your mind to it. See, the whole idea of being an Atheist is to close your mind to the idea that there might be a God, and reject the logic that no one has ever proven that there is no God, so by simply calling yourself an Atheist, you’ve established that you are closed-minded. But we’ll close our minds to that, too. “2. Strive to understand what is most likely to be true, not to believe what you wish to be true.” Wink, wink. Because we want Evolution to be true, so we’ll continue to pretend it is true and reject any evidence to the contrary, and censor it whenever we can. We also don’t want there to be a God, so we’ll also reject any evidence that points to His existence, and pretend we are being “open minded”. “3. The scientific method is the most reliable way of understanding the natural world.” Of course, by “scientific method” we aren’t actually referring to evidence, criticism, objective analysis, because that would force us to take an honest look at many of the things we outright reject because they contradict our pre-chosen world view. By “scientific method” we are referring to the Dogma of the Religion of Evolution and the gods of Time and Chance. There’s a reason we demanded that the phrase “Critical Analysis” be censored in science text books, after all. “4. Every person has the right to control over their body.” “Person” of course being defined by what’s convenient for the majority at the time. “5. God is not necessary to be a good person or to live a full and meaningful life.” Note, we didn’t say “belief in God” which might have made more sense. The reason is that deep down we know there’s a God and we are really mad at Him, for whatever reason, so we want to pretend He’s irrelevant. Just like it’s not necessary to have a foundation in order to build a house, we Atheists don’t need God to build our own personal “morality” where we get to say what is and isn’t right…just like Hitler did. “6. Be mindful of the consequences of all your actions and recognize that you must take responsibility for them.” And by “take responsibility” we, of course, mean rationalize it away as either “what’s right for us” or simply not worry about it as we fight to maintain the belief that after death there’s nothing, therefore no consequences. “7. Treat others as you would want them to treat you, and can reasonably expect them to want to be treated. Think about their perspective.” Except for the people that disagree with us. We can treat them like crap and call them names. “8. We have the responsibility to consider others, including future generations.” And many other completely vague concepts that have no meaning when different people have contradictory ideas of what “responsibility” means. But it makes us feel good to say such things. “9. There is no one right way to live.” But there are plenty of wrong ways, so let’s keep hammering at all those people we disagree with. “10. Leave the world a better place than you found it.” Ahh, yet another vague meaningless homily. Doesn’t it make you feel good? No, don’t think about the fact that there’s a wide variety of concepts over what “better” means—many mutually-exclusive. It’s about feeling good, in spite of reality. [/quote] I like how concepts like "think about the future" and "Don't gently caress up the planet" are so alien that they think its meaningless.  quote:City education officials have demoted an elementary school principal days after a school board member circulated a photo showing misspellings in a large announcement sign outside one of the building’s entrances. Not caring about a sign? Focuing on the important parts of your job? HOW DARE HE!  "Whats that? Threats of a terrorist attack that wouldn't have affected me in any way? YOU'RE A PUSSY FOR CAVING!"  Hey, the movies out now, totally available for you to see? Sop,. how many times did you see it, hmm?  Unborn fetus's have more rights than innocent people captured by the CIA - LL 101.  Yeah, kids should be able to make their decision without all the marketting gimmicks that abortion clinics use, and be abllowed to choose to be an unwed 13 year old mother.  I mean, the killing of an innocent man does make me want to side with the Democrats, but on the other hand, they're stupid poo heads always!  Remember when Sharpton framed that photo of cops with a shooting target? Because conservatives sure as gently caress do!  So opening trade with a communist country leads to you pouring millions in to them and getting nothing back? Wow, capitalism really is useless.  I agree, it is awesome that this generation isn't authoritarian shitheels.  quote:The youngest daughter of Eric Garner paid her respects Monday to two police officers who were murdered execution style in the Bedford-Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn over the weekend. Isn't it curious how the camera appears to show people there despite Consertvatives claiming that leftists are actually celebrating the death of cops?  Moores law?The gently caress is that? Clearly capitalism just WILLED those transistors onto that chip.  quote:A National Institutes of Health (NIH) project, entitled, “Relationship Between Tobacco Retailer Density and Sexual Minority Couples,” reasons that since many gay and lesbian couples live in cities, they may be close to stores that sell cigarettes, such as 7 Elevens. Research gave us all this! Also, HOW loving DARE THEY RESEARCH THINGS!  So loving close to just chanting white power at this point.
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I can tolerate those gaudy e-cards until a certain point. That certain point, though, is JPEG ARTIFACTS EDIT: I really gotta admire LL101 for consistently quoting stupid people nobody has ever heard of or given a poo poo about. It must be hard to find all these people. All that effort they go to. For us. Thank you, LL101. Neowyrm fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Dec 27, 2014 |
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Dec 27, 2014 05:05
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Cross-posting from the Food Addiction thread: Cheese.  Not even once. 
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Fulchrum posted:
Obama: Hey, Bush, the crew and passengers decided I should take the yoke for a bit. Bush: Well, if they say so-- Obama: [gets plane flying mostly level despite massive turbulence] Republicans in first class: [for six years] OH gently caress WHERE ARE WE GOING OH NO WE'RE CRASHING OH gently caress THIS GUY's PILOT LICENSE IS FAKE
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Dec 27, 2014 05:10
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Davethulhu posted:I don't want to live in a world without cheese. See! You're so addicted you'd rather die than live without cheese!
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Dec 27, 2014 05:14
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I really wish people would stop fuckin the 'straight pride' dog and simply be happy they don't have a need for 'straight pride'. Congrats, you guys are the 'default', biologically and culturally. You've won. You're not being oppressed.LL101 posted:1. Be open-minded and be willing to alter your beliefs with new evidence.”  So where do these idiots get the idea that there is any evidence against evolution and that there exists indisputable evidence of God's existence? I'd really like to see it because if I'm wrong on this whole God thing I'd like to know.
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Dec 27, 2014 05:23
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Poizen Jam posted:I really wish people would stop fuckin the 'straight pride' dog and simply be happy they don't have a need for 'straight pride'. Congrats, you guys are the 'default', biologically and culturally. You've won. You're not being oppressed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI If you don't have time, I'll bottom line it. Bill Nye: Here is the proof that shows there is no reasonable conclusion one can come to for the origin for all species on earth except evolution. Ken Ham: Nuh-uh, because God said not. Also, you weren't there so you didn't see it. And then his followers treated that last argument as a masterstroke.
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Dec 27, 2014 05:27
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Fulchrum posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI You literally cannot win a debate with a YEC. Their worldview and the format of a debate make it impossible. I don't know why people keep trying it.
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Dec 27, 2014 05:30
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Yeah, and we can't 'see' gravity or fully understand how it works but I don't see religious folks jumping off buildings to spite us. Literally nothing in biology makes sense unless it's interpreted through the lense of evolution. I saw the Ken Ham debate. That dishonest turd has a habit of citing opinions of 'doctors' who are usually just engineers- never experts in a relevant discipline. To be honest I was sad Bill Nye even bothered to entertain him because doing so gives him more credibility than he deserves. I mean, sure, he's going to claim 'Haha! The evolutionist wouldn't debate me, obviously I won!', but he's going to claim he 'won' anyway. At least that way I there's no smug media spectacle over it. And gently caress the Gish Gallup. If ever you doubted anti-evolution folk actually care about the truth rather than pushing a religious agenda, you need only look at their dishonest debate tactics.
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Dec 27, 2014 05:31
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Poizen Jam posted:Yeah, and we can't 'see' gravity or fully understand how it works but I don't see religious folks jumping off buildings to spite us. quote:Literally nothing in biology makes sense unless it's interpreted through the lense of evolution. Literally nothing in science makes sense to a YEC anyway, so as far as they see it, its a wash that way.
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Dec 27, 2014 05:35
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KiteAuraan posted:You literally cannot win a debate with a YEC. Their worldview and the format of a debate make it impossible. I don't know why people keep trying it. For people that watch the debate but aren't solidly in one camp or the other.
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Dec 27, 2014 05:39
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://twitter.com/MolonLabe1776us/status/548200863182102528/photo/1 I like the twitter handle, @MolonLabe1776US Right up there with @xXWeedLord420BlazeItXx
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Dec 27, 2014 05:42
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It was cool when State pulled all of the tax incentives Ham had been promised for his Noah's Ark amusement park
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Dec 27, 2014 05:43
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Hilarious anecdote. The Creation Museum in Kentucky has been steadily losing attendance due to the fact that the Museum has not had any major new additions since opening (unlike say a real museum that will have newly discovered fossil exhibits in circulation). They had to raise the entry fee from 5$ to 30$ just to keep up with their failing to bring people back.
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Dec 27, 2014 05:51
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KiteAuraan posted:You literally cannot win a debate with a YEC. Their worldview and the format of a debate make it impossible. I don't know why people keep trying it. No one debates with YECs to change the person on stage's view, but to inform and change the minds of the audience. So in that regard it's pretty useful.0
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Dec 27, 2014 06:01
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Who What Now posted:No one debates with YECs to change the person on stage's view, but to inform and change the minds of the audience. So in that regard it's pretty useful.0 I've been in the audience before (on the YEC side, I was young and stupid). No one there was swayed by the debate in my experience. In my own case it was studying human evolution at University that changed my mind. Though it may put the seed of doubt in some people, which is certainly a net bonus.
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Dec 27, 2014 06:10
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Meh. They have a captive audience. When I lived in Indianapolis, churches would advertise charter buses to the museum. They can charge any price and suckers will pay. If you are in a position to fleece idiots and print your own money, why not do it? Given that you accept an exploitative Capitalist ideology, of course. And for historical reasons, exploitative Capitalism and fundamentalist Christianity are perfectly paired together. The whole of Genesis is 100% literal. But when Jesus said to feed the poor and treat the oppressed with respect, he was clearly being metaphorical.
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Dec 27, 2014 06:17
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The only thing of any worth that Duane Gish ever gave to humanity was his hairpiece.
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Dec 27, 2014 06:26
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Wulfolme posted:The only thing of any worth that Duane Gish ever gave to humanity was his hairpiece. Duane Gish was the very man I saw debate. He was not wearing the hairpiece at that time.
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Dec 27, 2014 06:34
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Fulchrum posted:Literally nothing in science makes sense to a YEC anyway, so as far as they see it, its a wash that way. The entire concept of the scientific method does not make sense to a YEC because it involves gathering evidence and testing hypothesis to try and understand things instead of blindly accepting whatever your chosen holy authority tells you. Remember to a lot of creationists the mere act of asking questions is 'offensive' and that really says it all.
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Poizen Jam posted:I really wish people would stop fuckin the 'straight pride' dog and simply be happy they don't have a need for 'straight pride'. Congrats, you guys are the 'default', biologically and culturally. You've won. You're not being oppressed. My "favorite" part was lambasting atheists about using the term "religious dogma" and then unironically using "evolutionist dogma" in the same loving sentence, 
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So here's part 2. Part 3 will be up a bit later. Less content this time as they just blindly regurgitated some of the worst politoons for Christmas. Never thought I'd ever see someone actually praising a Catalaino, but there you go. A random protestor on the street - exactly as important and worth listening to as Sarah Palin. Okay, thats actually true, but not for them.  "Every time something happens in a society that threatens it, society fixes it. THIS IS BAD!"  First there was hope. But then, the horror of Liberallogic101.com!  MEN (who don't allow equality for women) ARE PIGS. Gee, loses a lot when you see it in context, don't it?  Now why would anyone call you a pig?  Hah hah, sabotage that could lead to escalation and retaliation.  quote:There are quite a few unfounded stereotypes Liberals like to toss a Conservatives. Liberals are generally too lazy (not to mention stupid) to bother to note that there are actually several types of Conservatives. Unlike Liberals, we actually do tolerate diversity and value differing opinions, therefore there distinct groups within the GOP and Conservatism in general that disagree on many things. The one unifying principle is the idea that the state should serve the needs of the individual, not the other way around. But what follows are the more common criticisms of Conservatives by Liberals, some which are nonsense, some have some truth to them. Yeah, what do conservatives have in common with the poor hating, homosexuality outlawing, authoritarian, gun rights expanding, minority demonizing, abortion outlawing group of white people? Oh, but see, they used the word SOCIALIST! WHICH IS WHAT WE CALL LIBERALS! QED  Some white people had jobs and lost them due to progress, therefore the privilige that got them those jobs in the first place. WHITE PRIVILIGE PROVEN FALSE!  quote:President Obama has issued a form of executive action known as the presidential memorandum more often than any other president in history — using it to take unilateral action even as he has signed fewer executive orders. Well, sure, it may not SEEM like he's a tyrant, but whn you add in these lesser forms of executive action that have far less power, then treat them completely equally, HE REALLY IS A TYRANT!  I mean, whats the worst that could come from letting corporations decide what information children should know? We're not gonna get to a cool dystopic corporate hellscape without a little push!  Correct, they did incite terror in the population for their own gains.  quote:In October 2013, 50 U.S. senators signed a letter to President Obama pledging not to give advice and consent to the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty (ATT or the “No Guns for People Socialists Disagree With” Treaty). In order for a treaty to be ratified, no more than 33 senators can oppose it. “No Guns for People Socialists Disagree With” , or as they are commonly referred to, "Insane dictators". The things major opponents include Kim Jong Un and Bashar Al-Assad. Those are the people that right wingers are so desperate to defend. Brings to mind that old poem. First they came for Hitler, and I did not speak up for I was not Hitler....  I don't recall God ever saying anything about the right to guns.  Devestating burn, comparing Obama to well known figure of public hatred, Santa Claus.
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KomradeX posted:I really wish facebook had a smiley rolling his eyes and doing I found, saved, and frequently use this one. 
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Fulchrum posted:Bit off topic, but just so I get it right - is there a particular way you want me to do the Roundup tomorrow? Top 12 worst? Only mocking the easy ones? VVV what VVV Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Dec 27, 2014 |
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Dec 27, 2014 09:44
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Dr. Faustus posted:I like it when you post the way you want to post. Fulchrum, what he means to say is 
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Neruz posted:The entire concept of the scientific method does not make sense to a YEC because it involves gathering evidence and testing hypothesis to try and understand things instead of blindly accepting whatever your chosen holy authority tells you. Except that sometimes they...uh...well. Just...watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504 ...yeah.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Except that sometimes they...uh...well. Just...watch this. I think my brain just broke. The sheer amount of willful misunderstanding of science is staggering.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Except that sometimes they...uh...well. Just...watch this. Every time I see that video another cluster of neurons tries to commit suicide.
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I wish I lived in the world where science worked like these people imagine.  Where every time you open up a jar of peanut butter there's a good chance of The Thing popping out.
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Yeah a world where magic existed would be way more interesting. Probably also significantly more dangerous as well as you rarely get 'interesting' without 'dangerous' in some capacity.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Except that sometimes they...uh...well. Just...watch this. Wasn't there a recent experiment that showed that in fact that really could indeed happen if the right conditions are met? Something about certain elements and the right amount of external energy input?
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We don't know how life actually started, not precisely. There are a number of competing hypothesis and at the moment one of the most popular ones is that the first life formed as proto-cells in porous rock near coastal volcanic vents, using the rock in place of cell walls and feeding off the chemicals in the water around them. But the reality is at the moment we don't know for sure. A number of experiments are ongoing to try and replicate the creation of new life from nonliving compounds, some have shown promise (I believe one of the experiments has generated some compounds that look a lot like basic genetic structures by electrocuting the poo poo out of a sealed bottle of chemicals) but as yet no-one has been able to do it. Given the billions of years involved in the evolution of life the first time we probably shouldn't expect to be able to pin down the exact conditions very soon; hell even if we finally worked it out 500 years from now that would still be a hell of a lot faster than evolution 
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KiteAuraan posted:Wasn't there a recent experiment that showed that in fact that really could indeed happen if the right conditions are met? Something about certain elements and the right amount of external energy input? Miller-Urey in the fifties was the classic - ammonia, reducing atmosphere and some sparks producing a whole heap of amino acids. Later ones have managed to make adenine, one of the four bases in DNA, but I confess I haven't heard anything about that beyond Wikipedia
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Except that sometimes they...uh...well. Just...watch this. I really don't get why people get evolution and abiogenesis confused, they aren't related.
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OwlFancier posted:I really don't get why people get evolution and abiogenesis confused, they aren't related. Because they don't understand what they're trying to talk about.
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Neruz posted:Because they don't understand what they're trying to talk about. I get that, but where do they get their ideas of evolution from? It's never been an attempt to explain the origin of life on earth, even Darwin's work spells it out in the title, "On the Origin of Species" It explains the diversification of life, not its creation.
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OwlFancier posted:I get that, but where do they get their ideas of evolution from? It's never been an attempt to explain the origin of life on earth, even Darwin's work spells it out in the title, "On the Origin of Species" It explains the diversification of life, not its creation. From each other, they don't want to learn about how this poo poo actually works so they just make things up that sound suitably absurd and then parade their ignorance around crowing about how it proves them right. Unfortunately lots of people are willing to accept this nonsense without examining it themselves (remember you're not supposed to question god's words or those who interpret them) because they see the people saying this nonsense like Duane Gish as being in positions of trusted authority and thus they must be telling the truth because why would someone lie about something like that? Remember that YEC's have no issue with things like gravity or light because these things are obvious and all around them and easy to understand, but evolution not only violates their beliefs (which means they're more likely to dismiss it outright regardless of veracity) but involves concepts that are not all around them and lengths of time that are pretty much impossible to properly understand. Terms like 'billions of years' and 'amino acids' do not make the same intuitive sense as 'things fall' does and thus are much harder to accept, especially when accepting them means admitting that a significant chunk of what you believe to be truth is in fact wrong and that trusted authority figures have been lying to you. Most people would rather continue to believe in a lie than admit fault unless literally forced to (and I suspect there are probably entire books written on the psychology involved behind that.)
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