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pentyne posted:No he's right, Japanese kissing is almost universally disgusting. And, in many animes it is portrayed as borderline sexual assault even on willing subjects. I really wish the rules allowed me to vote for Valvrave. It really deserves the title. Alas our anime forum posting techniques simply weren't advanced enough in 2013. Kids these days don't know how good they have it! 
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WickedHate posted:I can believe Yoko is a genuine example of fanservice, but her and her clothing is played up much more salaciously without any irony. Dude, stop trying to justify it to yourself. It's okay to like a show that has fanservice in it.
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Dec 27, 2014 10:33
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WickedHate posted:I can believe Yoko is a genuine example of fanservice, but her and her clothing is played up much more salaciously without any irony. There was no irony in the KLK that I watched, which was the first five episodes. I don't know why people get caught up on the fanservicey outfits though. Not when all the jokes I saw came in 2 flavors; Mako does something funny and let's sexually assault/harass Ryuko. Literal would get fired/jail time for doing some of the poo poo characters pull. To say nothing of all the questions being raised knowing Ryuko's dad made her that stripper outfit. Finding out about the bad touch from this thread just further cemented how glad I am I quit at 5. Kill La Kill is the only anime I watched this year that was straight up bad. Even if I set aside the poo poo I find problematic and take it at face value, it still just wasn't good.
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Dec 27, 2014 10:34
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All in all, Kill La Kill was good as a spectacle. As a quality product though, you're never going to get everyone to agree whether it was king corn on poo poo mountain or the anime savior.
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Dec 27, 2014 11:06
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Why are people trying to say Kill la Kill wasn't a horny time? Why does this forum always try to pretend everything isn't horny?
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Dec 27, 2014 11:36
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Big Anime Fan Here posted:Why are people trying to say Kill la Kill wasn't a horny time? Why does this forum always try to pretend everything isn't horny? because they like it, you see. and theyre a Good Anime Fan, not one of those creepy weirdos, so if they like something, it must be subversive deep on a level beyond what the average person sees, and not just What It Is
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Dec 27, 2014 12:00
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Madoka Magica is the best anime ever made and urobutcher made me cry a million tears because of how deep and well written it was. a million times better than Evangelion and the other pleb poo poo people watch. KlK is just for Gainax nerds who can't accept that SHAFT is the true master studio. Anime is art. 
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I don't really understand the perspective where it's bad to enjoy things in a sexual way. It probably stems from people who post here mostly being individuals who were or continue to be sexually frustrated and harbor resentment towards people who are not. Like the cognitive dissonance caused by their childishly inflated sense of self worth and their inability to succeed sexually caused them to view sexual inclinations as base and crass. This is just for the aggregate, of course. The deeper you read into any ADTRW thread in which the show has sexual themes or imagery the more you start to encounter individuals with progressively more skewed and transparent views on what sex represents. Me personally, I would like to have sex with anime and exciting developments in virtual reality technology which are driven by the free market indicate that this is a very cool idea.
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Dec 27, 2014 12:17
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laplace posted:Madoka Magica is the best anime ever made and urobutcher made me cry a million tears because of how deep and well written it was. a million times better than Evangelion and the other pleb poo poo people watch. KlK is just for Gainax nerds who can't accept that SHAFT is the true master studio. If you like Madoka Magica that much it leads me to believe you're juuuuust dumb enough to barely grasp the insanely obvious themes, but of course I Stan VERY hard for Evangelion
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It was a ruse, I don't actually mean the things I type on the something awful dot com forums. Anime is a lie perpetuated by satanists trying to convert children into gay anime.
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Dec 27, 2014 12:33
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It sounds like the truth lies somewhere inbetween, for you
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OK, I realise this is a big ol' derail, but it touches on an interesting subject, so Imma chat about it. The first thing to understand is that since stories are constructed works, everything in them serves a purpose. This also applies to camera-work, as articulated in the concept of 'gaze'. Basically, whose perspective the camera is looking from, what it's looking at, and how contributes to a scene's mood and purpose. So, for instance, a lot of tight, claustrophobic shots with sinister lighting from one character's perspective will convey a sense of oppression and paranoia. A great example is this shot from It's You Guys' Fault I'm Not Popular, which nicely captures the mental state of a bitter, depressed, and very lonely otaku:  Terror in Resonance also does some masterful work with gaze, particularly with regards to lighting. In fact, it's a great show to watch if you want to learn more about cinematography. One of its biggest themes is that its child protagonists are overshadowed by the vast, uncaring machine of society, rendering them insignificant and limiting their options for making their voices heard. Now look at this shot:  It's a picture of one of the protagonists entering her school, but it's more than that. Here, we are the machine, and a small, vulnerable girl is walking into our jaws. It's this girl, Lisa, as society sees her. Ditto for this scene, where the two outcast terrorist-children are shadowed from our gaze in a sterile, brightly-lit cityscape that dwarfs them:  Observe how the boys are tucked away in a corner, further drawing our gaze away from them and underlining their irrelevance. There's a subtype of cinematic gaze called 'male gaze'. It's where a picture, scene, or entire show is shot from a male perspective, with a woman as the object. Advertising has some great examples. A product will often be sold with a hot woman draped over it, carrying the implication of 'buy the product, get the girl'. A particularly extreme example is this BMW ad, where a used car is depicted as a beautiful, naked woman luring the (presumed male) viewer in with a seductive gaze:  Similarly, fashion adverts are often shot from the perspective of a drooling man (and may in fact contain actual drooling men), showing that if you buy this dress, you too will be an object of lust. An example (note the wide-eyed conductor at the back):  In fiction, the male gaze is used to put us in the shoes of a male audience, with the women on screen being there for us to ogle. KLK is shot from the perspective of a horny teenager, constantly looking down the female cast's dresses and up their skirts. We're encouraged to identify with this, to accept the message of 'these girls are hot, enjoy it'. It also uses a female gaze, especially when Aikuro's doing his male-stripper routine for the camera - the way the scene is framed encourages you to ogle all that delicious man-meat. A good example of KLK's use of male gaze is this shot (NSFW) - Ryuko's face is out of frame, the camera is centred on her crotch, and we're getting a good look at how her (skimpy) outfit is falling off her. It makes her look vulnerable, and it make her look hot. Even when the show itself hangs lampshades on this and pokes fun at it, the gaze is still doing its job and encouraging the presumed-male audience to leer at the pretty ladies. Now, that hypocrisy is one reason KLK's fanservice is disliked - it's both mocking and indulging in the male gaze, trying to have its cake and eat it. The other, more serious complaint is that it very often accompanies its male gaze with violence and rape imagery, making them implicitly part of what we're supposed to be drooling at. Look at this shot (NSFW). Ryuko's battered, unconscious, and vulnerable... but the scene is shot from the perspective of the creep leering at her, and her boobs are front-and centre in the camera's framing. This becomes most explicit in the infamous rape scenes, where the presence of the male gaze (the long, loving pans down naked bodies, the tits and rear end taking front and centre) implies that incestuous rape is also something we're supposed to be enjoying as fanservice. Which is an incredibly creepy thing to ask of your audience.
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Big Anime Fan Here posted:I don't really understand the perspective where it's bad to enjoy things in a sexual way. It probably stems from people who post here mostly being individuals who were or continue to be sexually frustrated and harbor resentment towards people who are not. Like the cognitive dissonance caused by their childishly inflated sense of self worth and their inability to succeed sexually caused them to view sexual inclinations as base and crass. This is just for the aggregate, of course. The deeper you read into any ADTRW thread in which the show has sexual themes or imagery the more you start to encounter individuals with progressively more skewed and transparent views on what sex represents. Me personally, I would like to have sex with anime and exciting developments in virtual reality technology which are driven by the free market indicate that this is a very cool idea. fictional characters aren't real obviously but it still makes things kind of uncomfortable. like, a character we're supposed to feel sympathy for 99% of the time is in an uncomfortable, embarrassing position, but this time we're supposed to stop caring about her as a character and find the anime titties hot. fanservice is a lot easier to laugh off or accept as part of the show if its a character actively choosing to present themselves that way, or just a thing that happens without the anime girl being halfway to tears. and that's my serious post on pantyshots
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Dec 27, 2014 13:50
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Is this the worst kill la kill thread of 2014?
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Dec 27, 2014 15:59
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Not even close.
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Dec 27, 2014 16:22
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All these people on the internet are wrong and I must prove them wrong and I am certain they will listen to me
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this happens every time. lmao e: they took the incest threesome opening from episode 21 off of youtube. what am i supposed to do now? Simoom fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Dec 27, 2014 |
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Dec 27, 2014 16:34
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mako is funny
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Mako reminded me of Gir, from my favourite childhood show. im a real poo poo heap.
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Harettazetta posted:All these people on the internet are wrong and I must prove them wrong and I am certain they will listen to me I guess if that is what you boil down any discussion to, then sure.
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This is basically you, WickedHate:  
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My point is why are we wasting time arguing about anime titties when we could be talking about how hideous Ping Pong looked. I mean, would you rather watch this: PingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPingPing  PongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPongPong or: TWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILS  TWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILSTWINTAILS The answer is obvious
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From what I watched of Twintails the animation quality was uh, pretty dire to say the least.
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Dec 27, 2014 17:10
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You just lack twintail affinity.
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I didn't bother finishing Twintails or Gugure. They were both pretty mediocre.
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Dec 27, 2014 17:18
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Twintails was pretty good and I hope it eventually gets another season when more dumb LN books come out and the publisher wants another super expensive commercial
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Srice posted:From what I watched of Twintails the animation quality was uh, pretty dire to say the least.  (I loved it despite its low budget)
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Harettazetta posted:All these people on the internet are wrong and I must prove them wrong and I am certain they will listen to me Hey, I find cinematography interesting, and I have fun writing  about it on the Internet. Sue me.
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The Monkey Man posted:
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Darth Walrus posted:Hey, I find cinematography interesting, and I have fun writing I mean why the gently caress did Wicked Hate have to go through another beatdown when posts like this... Endorph posted:Ping Pong Harettazetta posted:My point is why are we wasting time arguing about anime titties when we could be talking about how hideous Ping Pong looked.
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ADTRW is irl full of moe apologists
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Bury me with my moe...
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RatHat posted:Dude, stop trying to justify it to yourself. It's okay to like a show that has fanservice in it. I don't have to justify it. I like lots of shows with fanservice, and some that are almost entirely fanservice, and I'm fine with that. I still consider them good shows and worthy of respect. I genuinely can't look at the stuff in KLK and think it's not just a joke. Armor-Piercing posted:I didn't bother finishing Twintails or Gugure. They were both pretty mediocre. I thought Twintails was kind of creepy for the way it treated part of a girl's hair as so important, but it seemed cool that it's format was like a classic toku show but animated.
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Why does the one on the right have her pussy out but there's no labes?
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WickedHate posted:I genuinely can't look at the stuff in KLK and think it's not just a joke. Beautiful
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Armor-Piercing posted:I didn't bother finishing Twintails or Gugure. They were both pretty mediocre. the finest animation quality
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every moe anime has worst animation than stringendo and accelerando: ultimatum sera which is just scene after scene of people sucking the cum out of dicks. They have worse plots and less believable characters as well. Funny, how things are, sometimes.
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I tried to watch Kill La Kill, but just found it kind of dull around half-way through. I didn't stop because I was disgusted, but because I just didn't find the plot very interesting and it seemed to repeatedly rehash the same themes (along with the same music, etc). With one or two exceptions the fight scenes were also pretty lame.
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