Wii U General - Gaming Dad: "It's better to lose as Bowser than win as Toad"

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Electromax: May 6, 2007

goddammit

do you guys like videogames or not

every system is cool* and we live in a miracle age of entertainment

there should be a Tomba 3 on Wii U.

Back to Wii U chat, the Yoshi amiibo I just got is neat. Nintendo needs to release some $5 minigames that incorporate them in a non-generic way to tide people over until more substantial implementation happens in full games, if ever.

*I've not played a Saturn or an XB1

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:02

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# ? May 30, 2024 21:35

virtualboyCOLOR: Dec 22, 2004

ascii genitals posted:

Gitaroo man 2 on Wii U please. This game was amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YbRclMWFcE

Hell yes!

Ultigonio posted:

the Dualshock stick placement is still probably my least favorite thing ever,

Agreed.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:03

Mercury Crusader: Apr 20, 2005; You know they say that all demons are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Pyro Jack and you can see that statement is not true, hee-ho!

Electromax posted:

*I've not played a Saturn or an XB1

Panzer Dragoon, Daytona USA, Virtua Fighter, Nights into Dreams, Virtual-On, Shinobi Legions, Virtua Cop, Fighters Megamix, Die Hard Arcade, Dragon Force, lotta good games on the Saturn

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:07

virtualboyCOLOR: Dec 22, 2004

Mercury Crusader posted:

Panzer Dragoon, Daytona USA, Virtua Fighter, Nights into Dreams, Virtual-On, Shinobi Legions, Virtua Cop, Fighters Megamix, Die Hard Arcade, Dragon Force, lotta good games on the Saturn

Yeah the Saturn was good. The issue was Sega themselves. The Shenmue demo on the Saturn is amazing for what that console was capable of.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:09

Awesome!: Oct 17, 2008; Ready for adventure!

i wish fulchrum was still here to tell us of the gaming ambrosia on the ps2

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:09

sigher: Apr 22, 2008; My guiding Moonlight...

virtualboyCOLOR posted:

Because I don't play a game where the only challenge is to deal with the single digit frame rate since the early 90s.

The Colonel posted:

e: i've played SotC a ton of times and have literally never experienced framerate issues

The original release did dip in frame rate quite frequently but it didn't make it impossible to play, definitely never low enough to where the game became unplayable.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:20

Hobo Siege: Apr 24, 2008; by Cowcaster

Electromax posted:

*I've not played a Saturn

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:22

Commissar Ken: Dec 9, 2006; Children STILL love me, dammit!

Mercury Crusader posted:

Panzer Dragoon, Daytona USA, Virtua Fighter, Nights into Dreams, Virtual-On, Shinobi Legions, Virtua Cop, Fighters Megamix, Die Hard Arcade, Dragon Force, lotta good games on the Saturn

I think you just named ALL the games on the Saturn.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:25

virtualboyCOLOR: Dec 22, 2004

At this point SotC is more of a PS3 game since it was the first time it wasn't a slide show. Keep in mind I mainly play PC games and Nintendo consoles so I'm used to high quality 60+FPS. I guess if you have lower standards you might have been able to deal with the headache inducing 8 FPS of the PS2 version.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:25

Devil Wears Wings: Jul 17, 2006; Look ye upon the wages of diet soda and weep, for it is society's fault.

Mercury Crusader posted:

Panzer Dragoon, Daytona USA, Virtua Fighter, Nights into Dreams, Virtual-On, Shinobi Legions, Virtua Cop, Fighters Megamix, Die Hard Arcade, Dragon Force, lotta good games on the Saturn

You forgot Astal. Everyone always forgets Astal.

Now let's see you do the Virtual Boy. :allears:

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:26

virtualboyCOLOR: Dec 22, 2004

Astal loving owns. That game is STILL gorgeous!

Also the virtualboy is easy: every game minus water world. That's over 10 games.

virtualboyCOLOR fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Dec 27, 2014

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:29

oddium: Feb 21, 2006; end of the 4.5 tatami age

Challenge level: 32X

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:38

Devil Wears Wings: Jul 17, 2006; Look ye upon the wages of diet soda and weep, for it is society's fault.

oddium posted:

Challenge level: 32X

Knuckles Chaotix, NBA Jam, and uh hmmshmmhmm, sure were a lotta good games on the 32x

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:42

virtualboyCOLOR: Dec 22, 2004

Devil Wears Wings posted:

Knuckles Chaotix, NBA Jam, and uh hmmshmmhmm, sure were a lotta good games on the 32x

After burner, doom, knuckles chaotix, kolibri, MK II, NBA jam, night trap, shadow squadron, space harrier, Star Wars arcade, t-mek, virtua fighter, virtua racing 32x

The only truly difficult consoles are the jaguar, Linx, PS2, and random no name consoles.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:48

sigher: Apr 22, 2008; My guiding Moonlight...

virtualboyCOLOR posted:

At this point SotC is more of a PS3 game since it was the first time it wasn't a slide show. Keep in mind I mainly play PC games and Nintendo consoles so I'm used to high quality 60+FPS. I guess if you have lower standards you might have been able to deal with the headache inducing 8 FPS of the PS2 version.

I think at worst it'll get slightly under 20fps so it's not bad, I'm also a PC gamer but I could still deal with it. And lol at "Nintendo consoles" and "60+FPS," hardly anything until the Wii U ran at 60fps on Nintendo consoles when it came to 3D.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:56

Nep-Nep: May 15, 2004; Just one more thing!

Electromax posted:

there should be a Tomba 3 on Wii U.

This, and it would also be great to have a new Spyro, but based on what made Spyro 2 and 3 good and none of the edgy crap that came after, and not Skylanders. This will never happen, sadly.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 21:58

Ultigonio: Oct 26, 2012; Well now.

Sire Oblivion posted:

hardly anything until the Wii U ran at 60fps on Nintendo consoles when it came to 3D.

Not that many Wii U games run at or near 60 FPS consistently. It's really not much different now than it was then.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:03

majormonotone: Jan 25, 2013

I can't believe that people were naming the best PS2 exclusives and didn't mention Klonoa 2.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:04

Junpei Hyde: Mar 15, 2013

virtualboyCOLOR posted:

After burner, doom, knuckles chaotix, kolibri, MK II, NBA jam, night trap, shadow squadron, space harrier, Star Wars arcade, t-mek, virtua fighter, virtua racing 32x

The only truly difficult consoles are the jaguar, Linx, PS2, and random no name consoles.

Jaguar had Tempest 2000, a decent Doom conversion, Alien VS Predator and Attack of the Mutant Penguins. I think it also had Dragon's Lair and Space Ace.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:05

enojy: Sep 11, 2001; bass rattle
stars out
the sky

The only claim made against the PS2 so far that carries any weight is their failure rate. I think I went through three PS2s. However, I got thousands of hours of game time out of them with the Beatmania IIDX and Pop'n Music games (something like 10 releases each.) That, and dozens of other great games. Gran Turismo, God of War, FFX, Metal Gear Solid 3 (just 3,) the various Shin Megami Tensei titles, Guilty Gear, Initial D, Street Fighter, SOCOM, Okami, Shadow of the Colossus...

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:05

virtualboyCOLOR: Dec 22, 2004

majormonotone posted:

I can't believe that people were naming the best PS2 exclusives and didn't mention Klonoa 2.

So we're at 9.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:07

Ultigonio: Oct 26, 2012; Well now.

majormonotone posted:

I can't believe that people were naming the best PS2 exclusives and didn't mention Klonoa 2.

Oh man, I am absolutely ashamed that I forgot Klonoa 2.

I need more Klonoa, Namco. Where's more Klonoa??

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:07

Admiral H. Curtiss: May 11, 2010; I think there are a bunch of people who can create trailing images. I know some who could do this as if they were just going out for a stroll.

Sire Oblivion posted:

I think at worst it'll get slightly under 20fps so it's not bad, I'm also a PC gamer but I could still deal with it. And lol at "Nintendo consoles" and "60+FPS," hardly anything until the Wii U ran at 60fps on Nintendo consoles when it came to 3D.

Mario games actually have a pretty good track record of running at 60 FPS, lots of Wii and GC first/second party games are 60. The N64 was the biggest outlier because barely anything ran at sensible framerates there. Zelda OoT runs at 20!

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:09

Junpei Hyde: Mar 15, 2013

Jack and Daxyer Precursor Legacy and Sly 3 are two solid platformers.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:10

Ultigonio: Oct 26, 2012; Well now.

Admiral H. Curtiss posted:

Mario games actually have a pretty good track record of running at 60 FPS, lots of Wii and GC first/second party games are 60. The N64 was the biggest outlier because barely anything ran at sensible framerates there. Zelda OoT runs at 20!

SMG was the first 3D Mario game to run at 60 FPS, if I'm not mistaken. I believe it was mostly a given for SNES games to run at 60, though?

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:15

greatn: Nov 15, 2006; by Lowtax

Admiral H. Curtiss posted:

Mario games actually have a pretty good track record of running at 60 FPS, lots of Wii and GC first/second party games are 60. The N64 was the biggest outlier because barely anything ran at sensible framerates there. Zelda OoT runs at 20!

That's a feature! It lets Cosmo do frame perfect glitch inputs for speed run marathons. Hiroshi Yamauchi said as much in an interview that he foresaw speed running and needed to limit the frame rate.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:19

raditts: Feb 21, 2001; The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.

enojy posted:

The only claim made against the PS2 so far that carries any weight is their failure rate. I think I went through three PS2s. However, I got thousands of hours of game time out of them with the Beatmania IIDX and Pop'n Music games (something like 10 releases each.) That, and dozens of other great games. Gran Turismo, God of War, FFX, Metal Gear Solid 3 (just 3,) the various Shin Megami Tensei titles, Guilty Gear, Initial D, Street Fighter, SOCOM, Okami, Shadow of the Colossus...

I have literally never heard of ps2s failing until this very post. My brother put his through unimaginable levels of torture, too.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:28

oddium: Feb 21, 2006; end of the 4.5 tatami age

virtualboyCOLOR posted:

So we're at 9.

Did you include Chulip ?? I really liked it

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:30

Junpei Hyde: Mar 15, 2013

My PS2 still works and it's like 13 years old. My only systems that have broken are my PS3, 3DS (still works but only when the screen is angled a certain way.) and 360 (Eject button only works 1 time out of 10)

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:33

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raditts posted:

I have literally never heard of ps2s failing until this very post. My brother put his through unimaginable levels of torture, too.

It was no where near the levels of the RROD but PS2 failure rate was definitely talked about a lot. I went through two of them myself, the laser just up and died on me. And I know at least two other people who had similar experiences with the system.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:34

virtualboyCOLOR: Dec 22, 2004

Junpei Hyde posted:

Jack and Daxyer Precursor Legacy and Sly 3 are two solid platformers.

Incorrect. They are merely competent. This was the start of Naughty Dog's spiral to releasing garbage.

oddium posted:

Did you include Chulip ?? I really liked it

I bought it new at $30 and it was really bad.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:43

ChaosArgate: Oct 10, 2012; Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

raditts posted:

I have literally never heard of ps2s failing until this very post. My brother put his through unimaginable levels of torture, too.

Consider yourself fortunate. I had a fat one from 2001 and the disc drive started dying like around 2006 or so and no matter how many weird fixes my friend and I tried, eventually the thing just stopped working altogether. RIP Fat PS2, may your younger brother super-slim PS2 never meet the same fate as you.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:45

oddium: Feb 21, 2006; end of the 4.5 tatami age

virtualboyCOLOR posted:

Incorrect. They are merely competent. This was the start of Naughty Dog's spiral to releasing garbage.

I bought it new at $30 and it was really bad.

I'm sorry to hear that. Godspeed.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:47

Devil Wears Wings: Jul 17, 2006; Look ye upon the wages of diet soda and weep, for it is society's fault.

Junpei Hyde posted:

Jack and Daxyer Precursor Legacy and Sly 3 are two solid platformers.

The first three Ratchet & Clank games are basically the best platformers in existence that aren't made by Nintendo.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:50

The Colonel: Jun 8, 2013; I commute by bike!

Devil May Cry 3 is a non-Platinum or Clover action game that is actually very good and I am disappointed by the lack of both it and God Hand on your list. (the dmc3 pc port doesn't count because it is unplayable garbage ok)

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:51

Admiral H. Curtiss: May 11, 2010; I think there are a bunch of people who can create trailing images. I know some who could do this as if they were just going out for a stroll.

Ultigonio posted:

SMG was the first 3D Mario game to run at 60 FPS, if I'm not mistaken. I believe it was mostly a given for SNES games to run at 60, though?

If we're just talking main Mario 3D platformers, sure. But including spinoffs:

60:
- Mario Galaxy 1/2
- Mario Kart Double Dash
- Mario Kart Wii
- Paper Mario TTYD
- Super Paper Mario
- New Super Mario Bros. Wii

30:
- Mario Sunshine
- Luigi's Mansion

Couldn't check Mario Golf/Tennis but from what I remember at least Tennis is 60 too.

And yeah, most NES and SNES stuff runs at 60, though will suffer slowdown with lots of sprites on screen.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:51

Fly with me: Aug 19, 2006; Single-handedly repopulating the Earth.

Mercury Crusader posted:

Panzer Dragoon, Daytona USA, Virtua Fighter, Nights into Dreams, Virtual-On, Shinobi Legions, Virtua Cop, Fighters Megamix, Die Hard Arcade, Dragon Force, lotta good games on the Saturn

Devil Wears Wings posted:

You forgot Astal. Everyone always forgets Astal.

Now let's see you do the Virtual Boy.

Commissar Ken posted:

I think you just named ALL the games on the Saturn.

All of you forgot the only reason to own the Saturn Multi-tap: Guardian Heroes.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:52

virtualboyCOLOR: Dec 22, 2004

That fat PS2s were basically made of wet cardboard boxes. The slim ones were ok but you couldn't add an Ethernet port so why bother.

oddium posted:

I'm sorry to hear that. Godspeed.

Thanks. I bought it day one at GameStop and was really disappointed. But that's the story of the PS2: constantly disappointing.

# ? Dec 27, 2014 22:53

virtualboyCOLOR: Dec 22, 2004

Devil Wears Wings posted:

The first three Ratchet & Clank games are basically the best platformers in existence that aren't made by Nintendo.

They felt like you were running on butter. They're awful games.

The Colonel posted:

Devil May Cry 3 is a non-Platinum or Clover action game that is actually very good and I am disappointed by the lack of both it and God Hand on your list. (the dmc3 pc port doesn't count because it is unplayable garbage ok)

Oh forgot about God hand. Welp you all convinced me. Have to admit when I made a mistake. PS2 did have 10 games worth owning. Great job everyone. That was a great team effort.

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# ? May 30, 2024 21:35

noirstronaut: Aug 10, 2012; by Cowcaster

Hey guys, remember the Wii U?

# ? Dec 27, 2014 23:03

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