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Is Fruity about to blow the whistle on the private lives of Greens MPs?
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 01:17 |
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# ? Jun 11, 2024 16:27 |
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Jonah Galtberg posted:Is Fruity about to blow the whistle on the private lives of Greens MPs? Bandts socks aren't free trade hemp. Read Bolt tomorrow for more.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 01:19 |
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Matthew Beet posted:Bandts socks aren't free trade hemp. Read Bolt tomorrow for more. Are we honestly having a discussion about whether it's OK to play the person and not the issue? Personal values are part of the manure confection of public policy discourse.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 02:02 |
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Matthew Beet posted:Bandts socks aren't free trade hemp. Read Bolt tomorrow for more. Bandts socks are made from the spidersilk tears of refugee children, thats why Sarah Hanson-Young keeps visiting them.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 02:02 |
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Cartoon posted:Personal values are part of the manure confection of public policy discourse. You go screwing your nanny on the Thursday while your partner works late, between you and them, the public doesn't get to end your marriage for you, you can gently caress it up on your own time. You shred the poo poo out of public education and send your kids to private school, that is public business. Your children's lives aren't, what choices you (or your donors!) make about your children is, because that reflects on your attitude to public policy. We don't have a federal "no knocking the nanny" law, we do have federal law directing billions to private schools and an equity gap in eduation.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 02:09 |
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Whether someone sends their children to private school has no bearing on the quality of the policy. To elaborate, if that politician didn't send their children to private school, would the plan to remove funding from public schools become good? Of course it wouldn't. If the politician who wants to keep gay marriage illegal didn't have secret midnight trysts with other men, would that make their plan to keep gay marriage illegal good? Of course not. If you can't argue against a policy without reference to the personal life of the person proposing that policy then you probably have a pretty weak argument. open24hours fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Dec 28, 2014 |
# ? Dec 28, 2014 02:15 |
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http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/12/27/18/52/opposition-slams-government-over-education-reform-pushquote:It was the Abbott government’s big sell, complete with a big price tag - but it has emerged the government’s taxpayer-funded advertising campaign to address concerns about its proposed higher education changes are not a hit with the public. Well no poo poo Sherlock. When you're unwilling to actually mention the "concerns" that others have with the policies (out of fear that the advertisement would just reinforce the opposing views), it's impossible to address them. So the government spent half a million bucks on ads that basically say "Education. Future. Hurray" such that people can't even tell they are trying to assuage concerns about education deruglation etc. Clearly the age of irresponsible government spending is over.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 02:44 |
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open24hours posted:
The right have been playing the man for years. You can keep all high and mighty and say the issues are all that matter all you like, in the mean time Murdoch et al are busy kneecapping everyone who disagrees with them. Play the ball, and the man and bury the fuckers at a crossroad so they can't rise.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 02:46 |
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The issues are all that matter, whether Mr Family Values is a gimp on weekends is entirely irrelevant. Both sides try to play the man now anyway, it's just that one side is better at it.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 02:50 |
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open24hours posted:Whether someone sends their children to private school has no bearing on the quality of the policy.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 02:58 |
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Learner drivers can be supervised by drunks in Western Australia — the only state with no alcohol limit LEARNER drivers can be supervised by drunks in Western Australia because of an embarrassing oversight the state government is urgently trying to fix. But in the meantime police are powerless to fine anyone for such an offence. In every state and territory except WA it is compulsory for novice drivers to be supervised by the holder of a full licence with either zero alcohol in their system or be below 0.05. The WA minister for police and road safety, Liza Harvey, says the state is preparing to close the loophole — but government sources say the changes could take up to a year to be legislated. “We are aware this anomaly exists in Western Australia and through the Office of Road Safety, in conjunction with the Novice Driver Review Working Group, the State Government is drafting legislation to address the issue,” Mrs Harvey said. “It’s ridiculous that anyone would think being a supervisor while drunk is acceptable, and while nearly every supervisory driver is doing the right thing, for that absolute minority we will be sending the message that this is completely unacceptable, irresponsible and frankly stupid.” However, WA police have confirmed they are powerless to fine a drunk supervisor of a learner driver. A statement from WA Police said: “There is no limit at this time in WA for alcohol limit of supervising driver.” When asked if there was another driving offence that drunk supervising drivers could be charged with, WA Police said: “At this time, nothing, as the responsibility remains with the driver.” In NSW supervising drivers can be fined if they are distracted by talking on a mobile phone and the learner is found to have driven negligently. In Victoria supervising drivers can be fined if the learner is caught speeding. In WA it is, however, at least illegal for a learner driver to have any alcohol in their system, in line with every other state and territory. But government sources were at a loss to explain why the road rules did not include a restriction on the alcohol limit of supervisors of learner drivers. WA shadow minister for transport Ken Travers said: “I find this extraordinary and it needs to be addressed as a priority. A supervising driver needs to be alert so they can assist the learner driver to identify hazards and avoid accidents. The normal drink driving rules should apply to them as if they were the driver.”
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:01 |
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CrazyTolradi posted:So, would this logic apply also to Peta Credlin, while being a major Tory pile of poo poo is also not an elected political representative? Would it be poor taste to "gently caress" with her private life? No, it doesn't apply to her. The only reason her personal life is in any way in the public interest is because, sadly for her, it intersects with the Prime Minister's. The problem is not her loving around, it's that the Prime Minister for Family Values was loving around, and it was with her. You really don't seem to get the point and just love ragging on me. Being a sicknasty poster isn't a problem unless you stake your entire public reputation on your moral opposition to sicknasty posting.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:10 |
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quote:A drop in emissions during the second year of the carbon tax was due to below trend economic growth, according to Federal Finance Minister Mathias Cormann.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:14 |
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open24hours posted:The issues are all that matter, whether Mr Family Values is a gimp on weekends is entirely irrelevant. The only thing I can possibly interpret from your posts about this is that you must be a massive hypocrite and oval office and see no problem with it and don't think it effects you family, your work, your friends, and every single interaction you have in life.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:16 |
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Fruity Gordo posted:No, it doesn't apply to her. The only reason her personal life is in any way in the public interest is because, sadly for her, it intersects with the Prime Minister's. The problem is not her loving around, it's that the Prime Minister for Family Values was loving around, and it was with her. Fruity Gordo posted:You really don't seem to get the point and just love ragging on me. Being a sicknasty poster isn't a problem unless you stake your entire public reputation on your moral opposition to sicknasty posting. No, my only issue with you is that you're an extremist who frothes at the mouth and rages at people, which is exactly what allowed Bolt to write his shitpiece in the first place. I mean, how did you think writing that kind of thing, in any context, wasn't a clear act of stupidity? Now, I abhor Bolt's blog and his horrible journalism but I also think if you're going to go around saying you will either shoot people yourself or hope they die (and lets be honest, that wasn't a once off you've said that), you're just pouring petrol infront of a pyromaniac, daring them to throw a match in. If you think someone as outspoken as yourself isn't going to get the attention of dickheads like Bolt in the current political and media environment, you're just as naive as Anidav is with job searching/Young Labor. tl;dr, Bolt is a fuckhead and a horrible human, but what you wrote was devoid of any logic or reason and was completely stupid. CrazyTolradi fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Dec 28, 2014 |
# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:25 |
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open24hours posted:Whether someone sends their children to private school has no bearing on the quality of the policy. It's not a question of the quality of the policy, but it goes to the intended outcome. A man who guts public education and sends his kids to private school probably believes in universal private education, or at least making it more ubiquitous than it is. A man who does the same whilst his kids are in a selective state school cares enough to look like he supports public education, so either he's being duplicitous about his desired outcome, or he desires something different. If you give people some credit for integrity, regardless of the quality of the idea, then we can make some reasonable deduction about what they're in for. I'm not arguing for personality based politics, but actions and choices speak to people's beliefs, which motivate their politics and policies. You argue better against a policy if you know why it's there, because you can move beyond "bad tax, bad debt, bad defecit" issue-by-issue penny ante and talk about long term goals, but you can't divine goals on a case by case basis or all you're going to get is "tax this less, this more, no refugees".
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:30 |
CrazyTolradi posted:According to single blog and rumour. Which you've then gone and spread as gospel truth. Personally, I feel them having an affair is totally a concern theirs and their families, but it doesn't impact their ability (or rather, inability) to do their job. Now if there was evidence of abuse of their positions, such as not declaring a scholarship for one's child, then yeah that's clearly public interest.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:31 |
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Fruity Gordo posted:The only thing I can possibly interpret from your posts about this is that you must be a massive hypocrite and oval office and see no problem with it and don't think it effects you family, your work, your friends, and every single interaction you have in life. I thought arguments of this quality were reserved for our elected representatives.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:39 |
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Affordable housing, in the heart of Sydney!bluuuuhhhh posted:It’s easy to assume that property prices within 10km of the Sydney CBD would be well over the $1 million-mark but surprisingly, that’s very far from the truth. okay then
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:41 |
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Ok, someone has to link to this blog now. I can't believe I'm going to read Bolt/Gordo.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:44 |
Lizard Combatant posted:Ok, someone has to link to this blog now. I can't believe I'm going to read Bolt/Gordo. I won't link it, as that's fruitys place to do so, but all it was, was a screencap of a conversation fruity had with someone on facebook where she told someone to basically gently caress off and die, and bolt just said "SEE? THIS IS WHAT THE GREENS / LEFT ARE ACTUALLY LIKE" You're not missing much.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:47 |
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What Sydney's median price will buy you in Brisbane Not gonna post the whole thing because it is fairly vomit-inducing quote:The inner-city ring Speaking of Brisbane... Reminder that BrisGoonMeet is tonight, 6pm, Jackpot Dining (55 Elizabeth st)
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:50 |
Fruity Gordo posted:The only thing I can possibly interpret from your posts about this is that you must be a massive hypocrite and oval office and see no problem with it and don't think it effects you family, your work, your friends, and every single interaction you have in life. Fruity: Walk away. Go calm down because you are completely nuts at the moment, and have been for months. Reading your histrionic posts is like reading Andrew Bolt, but without his insightful humour and perspicacity. I have to keep reminding myself that the greens are mainly composed of people like QM, and not people like you because frankly, you are loud, obnoxious, and behaving in a matter I find utterly repugnant and want to have nothing to do with. If you are the future of the greens, then gently caress the greens.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:52 |
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tithin posted:I won't link it, as that's fruitys place to do so, but all it was, was a screencap of a conversation fruity had with someone on facebook where she told someone to basically gently caress off and die, and bolt just said "SEE? THIS IS WHAT THE GREENS / LEFT ARE ACTUALLY LIKE" It's a bit more than that, in that she said she'd happily murder someone IRL if she could get away with it, and something about eating their "nerd flesh". EDIT: I stand corrected, she stated someone was much less valuable than roos (which she used to shoot growing up *KILLING ANIMALS NOT CONFORMING TO SOCIALIST LEFT HIVEMIND*) since she wasn't going to eat the forementioned "nerd flesh". CrazyTolradi fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Dec 28, 2014 |
# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:53 |
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More on the raw milk saga. Thankfully it's good news if you into children not being fed toxic poo poo by their ignorant parents. Raw milk producers to be forced to make their product unpalatable under new Victorian regulations quote:Raw milk producers will be subject to tough new restrictions, making it harder to sell the product for human consumption, the Victorian Government has said. I don't know about anyone else, but now I want to try whatever this bittering agent is. Sounds like fun. But not in raw milk, though. That would be stupid. Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Dec 28, 2014 |
# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:54 |
Mithranderp posted:What Sydney's median price will buy you in Brisbane There's only one thing I'd like to do to Brisbane's inner ring
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:55 |
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Mithranderp posted:What Sydney's median price will buy you in Brisbane No Sydney people, gently caress off, don't ruin Brisbane too, We'll send Bush Turkeys after you. Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWLJZw9Ws-g quote:
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:58 |
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tithin posted:There's only one thing I'd like to do to Brisbane's inner ring The article goes on to spruik Brisbane's middle ring. Suburbs like Graceville--only 7 train stops from the CBD! It fails to mention that there are approximately two bus services in that suburb--and that they don't even run after like 6pm. Also lol at Ascot being "Brisbane's best suburb".
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 03:58 |
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tithin posted:I won't link it, as that's fruitys place to do so, but all it was, was a screencap of a conversation fruity had with someone on facebook where she told someone to basically gently caress off and die, and bolt just said "SEE? THIS IS WHAT THE GREENS / LEFT ARE ACTUALLY LIKE" I withdraw my request
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 04:14 |
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I'm not naive, I'm just young and growing into life lessons.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 04:14 |
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Anidav posted:I'm not naive, I'm just young and growing into life lessons. You learn more about who you are from who your enemies are rather than who your friends are.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 04:17 |
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quote:Palmer United Party (PUP) leader Clive Palmer has announced John Bjelke-Petersen, the son of former Queensland premier Sir Joh, as the party's leader in Queensland ahead of the pending state election.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 04:48 |
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Jesus Christ, is John Bejelke-Petersen anything like his father?
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 04:55 |
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Anyone made a CKII mod for Queensland yet? I can see it now, the house of Joh.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 05:01 |
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Anidav posted:I'm not naive, I'm just Young Labor and growing into life lessons.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 05:01 |
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This is a troll post right?
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 05:02 |
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John BP ran at the last State election. He's without doubt the stupidest man I've ever met, eclipsing even John Anderson in lack of ability. e he's not really like his father, he lacks the malevolence and mean spirit. He's just really really dumb.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 05:06 |
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Implants posted:John BP ran at the last State election. He's without doubt the stupidest man I've ever met, eclipsing even John Anderson in lack of ability. Honestly, him being dumb is fine. Queensland thinking he's a good idea is what is worrying.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 05:08 |
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I feel obliged to point out that Queensland doesn't think he's a good idea, Clive Palmer does. John got pasted at last election in Nanango. He's not a chance for PUP unless they shift him elsewhere.
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 05:10 |
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 05:12 |