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azflyboy posted:Apparently getting on an airplane with "asia" as part of the company name is a really bad idea, since they seem to have developed a habit of crashing into seawalls, disappearing, or getting shot down over the last 18 months. Was this an AirAsia flight, or an AirAsia Indonesia flight? Not that Indonesia's safety record is too great either.
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According to Google, the aircraft that disappeared is registered to Indonesia AirAsia, so I guess it was the affiliate carrier.
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Dec 28, 2014 06:38
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Here's a handy link to pass around to folks not in the aviation world. Hopefully it will minimize the stupidity on your timelines or Facebook feeds.
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Solkanar512 posted:Here's a handy link to pass around to folks not in the aviation world. Hopefully it will minimize the stupidity on your timelines or Facebook feeds. That's a handy link, and is depressingly accurate. The handbook does need to be updated with "Ignore everything CNN (especially Wolf Blitzer or Don Lemon) says", since I'm sure one of those two morons will blame North Korea, a black hole, pirates, Russia, or something equally stupid within the next 24 hours.
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azflyboy posted:That's a handy link, and is depressingly accurate. I'm waiting for the Asian airliner curse to become a thing 
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Dec 28, 2014 07:02
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Oh god. I had forgotten about the black hole theory.
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Dec 28, 2014 07:13
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jaegerx posted:Oh god. I had forgotten about the black hole theory. Well, it would explain how they can make the trip in seven minutes. Until they have a resonance cascade...
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Well, it would explain how they can make the trip in seven minutes. Until they have a resonance cascade... Impossible - we've assured the administrator nothing would go wrong
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Nebakenezzer posted:Impossible - we've assured the administrator nothing would go wrong Lets boost the output to 105%. ....its probably not a problem, probably, but I'm showing a slight discrepancy....well, no its well within limits.
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Dec 28, 2014 17:21
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The "expert" on MSNBC is talking about the weather in the region and how is it's the worst he's ever known. It's almost like Robert Shaw's monologue in Jaws.  SHE HAD BLACK EYES...LIKE A DOLLS EYES...HAIL THAT WOULD TEAR A FUSELAGE TO SHREDS!!!
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Dec 28, 2014 18:15
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Well the Asian Monsoon is a real thing and the weather it produces can be pretty goddamn heinous.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Well the Asian Monsoon is a real thing and the weather it produces can be pretty goddamn heinous. Just ask the Royal Navy c. 18th and early 19th centuries. 3 Action Economist fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Dec 28, 2014 |
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Dec 28, 2014 19:22
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Flying through those monster storms never gets any less awful. Thankfully we had the luxury of looking at the forecaster's screen and saying "nope, we'll try again tomorrow."
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Dec 28, 2014 19:31
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Regarding wx...
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Dec 28, 2014 23:26
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I don't know what you guys were saying about CNN being incompetent. They are a truly great news agency that gives great graphics clearly explaining the aircraft to the viewers. 
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Dec 28, 2014 23:50
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The armchair experts are out in full force too.  The ground speed was reported at 353kts, that's a little low. Looks like they climbed 4500ft in about 5 minutes, that seems pretty steep
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Dec 29, 2014 00:21
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Nato - nitrous assisted take off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ1ekkOca5A&
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Spaced God posted:I don't know what you guys were saying about CNN being incompetent. They are a truly great news agency that gives great graphics clearly explaining the aircraft to the viewers. I don't understand, are we supposed to go help find it with this information? Edit: I didn't even notice it wasn't the same plane for the three views at first looking. Now I'm really going to have trouble finding it. pik_d fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Dec 29, 2014 |
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Dec 29, 2014 00:36
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I love how they give the dimensions down to the hundredth of a foot, but can't consistently say how many engines it's supposed to have.
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Dec 29, 2014 00:38
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An aircraft mishap yet again demonstrates that the modern world believes aviation to be mostly comprised of magic. Yep. That'll rank as a weather cancel any day.
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iyaayas01 posted:Regarding wx...  Yikes.
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Spaced God posted:I don't know what you guys were saying about CNN being incompetent. They are a truly great news agency that gives great graphics clearly explaining the aircraft to the viewers. FFFFFFF CBC had pictures of a A320 - that morphed into a 787 from time to time
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fknlo posted:
Must work for bombardier.
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hobbesmaster posted:Must work for bombardier.  That kind of stuff just cracks me up though. Especially the ground speed thing. Did you happen to pull up a wind chart before you came to your idiotic conclusion? I can't even tell you how many air carriers I've seen cruising at well under 300kts over the ground due to the winds lately. Also worked this one today. Look at that loving speed during the climb. We were flipping them poo poo about it the whole time. Especially since there was a C310 at 5000ft doing 80 knots faster.
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fknlo posted:
Eh, it's a Mustang, the slowest of any already slow-as-balls family of aircraft. Seriously, a King Air 350 is faster point-to-point over just about any distance either aircraft can fly, plus you can actually stand up in a King Air (and pee in private, if you spec'ed your interior properly). A pilot I used to fly with liked trolling Citation (sorry, Twin Cessna) drivers by descending just below Vmo, only to have ATC call us up to tell us to slow down for Citation traffic ahead.
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The little jet engines give you just enough power to climb into ridiculous headwinds.
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So I'm a shitbird with a university degree but not very good marks and anyway I hate that subject(finance). Should I take the AIRCRAFT STRUCTURES TECHNICIAN at SAIT and then fix planes for a living? It sounds kind of cool and I've generally been interested in the field since I was young but life sort of took me in other directions. I had some friends in the army who make pretty good livings fixing planes and even get to travel to exotic locales to do it. My parents both work in the UAE so it might be cool if that worked out. I don't drink or do anything else intoxicating and am mostly vegetarian so life under Shari'a is actually pretty appealing.
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fknlo posted:
 The AVHerald article for the crash has a photo of a radar screen with this flight showing the mentioned 353 knots on the ground, while a nearby Emirates flight shows over 500. I appreciate the fact that they are not the same aircraft type, but the difference between a 777 and an A320 shouldn't be 150 knots. Someone over on another forum surmised this puts the EAS for the A320 somewhere on the dangerous side of 180 knots, and this is not even considering ISA+15 temperature. http://avherald.com/h?article=47f6abc7&opt=0 Tsuru fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Dec 29, 2014 |
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Throatwarbler posted:So I'm a shitbird with a university degree but not very good marks and anyway I hate that subject(finance). Should I take the AIRCRAFT STRUCTURES TECHNICIAN at SAIT and then fix planes for a living? It sounds kind of cool and I've generally been interested in the field since I was young but life sort of took me in other directions. Would you enjoy working in what is possibly the least stable industry in the world? Do you like shady employers who will use every trick in the book to keep you working, but off the payroll? Do you like constantly looking for a job, even after working an 84hr work week at your current one, because they might cease operations the following week? Do you like working more than forty hours a week, but not earning overtime, because you're a "contractor?" Do you want to work every holiday, weekend, and special event for the next ten years (minimum) of your life? Do you like jobs with no paid vacation leave, or sick leave? Do you like working rotating shifts? Do you like to be electrocuted? Do you enjoy working at heights, with insufficient, likely-improperly-maintained safety gear? Do you like working midnights? Do you like working nothing BUT midnights? Do you like human excrement? Blue water leaks are a thing that happens on the regular. Do you like taking showers in fluids that humans should not take showers in? This one is sometimes related to the previous. Do you like hearing loss before your thirtieth birthday? Are you prepared to put in ten or fifteen years to move to the top of a seniority list that will become irrelevant during the next merger, moving you to the bottom of a new list, where you will remain until the next merger, if you're lucky enough that your airline doesn't go out of business completely? 
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Tsuru posted:Chill the gently caress out and have a wind chart That's fine and dandy. I'm just pointing out the people coming to conclusions without that kind of stuff. Going by that picture posted in that article, the difference in direction at that time could easily account for the speed difference between the two. That and the fact that pretty much every aircraft I've ever dealt with slowing down when they hit turbulence can lead to the slower speed as well.
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MrYenko posted:
Somehow this sounds quite similar to finance - although in finance the "human excrement" bit might be more metaphoric than literal. As an aviation mechanic you can cause a plane to crash. In finance, you can crash THE WORLD!
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90% of aviation maintenance is poo poo with poo poo employers working in awful conditions roaming from job to job unless you are super lucky. There is no bright spot in this field. Oh I hope you like nights because airplanes only get fixed at night.
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Today's drama at Gatwick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLpRu1EzyGE One of the 747s many many gears wouldn't retract, so they hung around after departure and landed after some time circling. Seems to carry its weight well, no scrapes. Is that horizontal stab trimmed asymmetrically?
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Boeing stabs, as far as I'm aware, cannot be trimmed asymmetrically.
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Throatwarbler posted:So I'm a shitbird with a university degree but not very good marks and anyway I hate that subject(finance). Should I take the AIRCRAFT STRUCTURES TECHNICIAN at SAIT and then fix planes for a living? It sounds kind of cool and I've generally been interested in the field since I was young but life sort of took me in other directions. I had some friends in the army who make pretty good livings fixing planes and even get to travel to exotic locales to do it. My parents both work in the UAE so it might be cool if that worked out. I don't drink or do anything else intoxicating and am mostly vegetarian so life under Shari'a is actually pretty appealing. What the other guys say is true, unless you go in to avionics. Realistically the Canadian AME licence isn't very portable and the -S even less so, even though the trade is in demand. That being said, the stuff you will learn will keep you employed as long as you want to work, and the scope of structures extends well beyond the aircraft industry. If you want portability, go for maintenance or avionics, then write your EASA B1/B2 license and make boatloads of money working in the desert for horrible bosses.
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Ola posted:Today's drama at Gatwick: More like would not extend, either. It lands without right-wing undercarriage. Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Dec 29, 2014 |
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Dec 29, 2014 20:52
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The video says that the plane was enroute to Las Vegas. So, there must have been some sort of warning about the gear shortly after takeoff that then prevented it from coming back down?
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Looks more like a hydraulic problem to me... outboard right elevator also does not appear to be working, and half the flight spoilers also do not deploy on touchdown. A job well done regardless.
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Ola posted:Today's drama at Gatwick: That's as good as a landing as anyone could've hoped for. bull3964 posted:The video says that the plane was enroute to Las Vegas. So, there must have been some sort of warning about the gear shortly after takeoff that then prevented it from coming back down? Yea, right upon retraction after takeoff. There's a set of lights that indicate gear position.
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