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Story via Autoblogquote:Imagine you're a wealthy Ariel driver who wants nothing more than to take your tube-framed giant killer off road. You realize it'd destroy basically everything on the car, though. Whatever will you do? Well, if you can put off trail bombing for the time being, you might be able to secure your very own Ariel Nomad in the near future. I wonder what the pricing is going to be like? I'm guessing similar to the Atom. I think I could have way more fun in a legal fashion(outside of shredding federally protected wetlands) in something like that than any sports car.
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fknlo posted:I wonder what the pricing is going to be like? I'm guessing similar to the Atom. I think I could have way more fun in a legal fashion(outside of shredding federally protected wetlands) in something like that than any sports car. Jalopnik is saying $47,000 to start and going up from there. Ariel will be taking orders next month and deliveries should be around the middle of 2015. It's very awesome looking and if it's rear engine/rear wheel drive, I don't see it having any problems off-roading.
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Minto Took posted:Drum brakes on passenger cars are an abomination in tyool 2014. Drum brakes are hella cheap for rears and make for a better parking break?
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Dec 26, 2014 04:18
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Secret Machine posted:Jalopnik is saying $47,000 to start and going up from there. Ariel will be taking orders next month and deliveries should be around the middle of 2015. Ungh. I could afford that but don't necessarily want to spend that much.
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Dec 26, 2014 04:37
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VikingSkull posted:Mopar guys are weird, it's a disease. American cars have a unique flair, and Chrysler has always been at the fringe when it comes to that. Often you get insane garbage, but when they get it right it's hilarious. I'm the kind of boring rear end in a top hat that thinks trucks should be used exclusively for hauling heavy poo poo around and not be at all fun or have leather or electric locks or even really a radio because that just encourages people to buy them as a "family car" and tailgate me on the highway or take up 3 parking spots at But that truck has a loving spoiler. It's a goddamn hilarious troll, and I want one.
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Dec 26, 2014 05:06
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I'm at least smart about my usage of it, 12mpg ain't so bad if you can get away with only putting 6,500 miles a year on it. The obnoxious level on that thing is off the charts. Not making a comparison, but it's similar to our generation's Caddy fins. So over the top, so unnecessary. 40 years from now I think people will remember it as one of the high water marks for what this era stood for styling-wise. Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Dec 26, 2014 |
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Are the length of the stickers sized so that plus the spoiler is about equal to the spoiler height on a e: daytona/superbird? Because it's that thought that made me laugh.
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Dec 26, 2014 09:48
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Yeah, bottom of the stripe to the top of the wing is around the same height as the Superbird/Daytona. Ricers get envious when I tell them gently caress fiberglass, metal spoilers are where it's at. The loving thing weighs like 50 pounds or some poo poo.
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Got in a brand new Taurus at work and its absolutely appalling that a car of this size and weight has less knee room than the rental Focus I drove a couple months ago.
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Dec 29, 2014 17:43
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Secret Machine posted:Jalopnik is saying $47,000 to start and going up from there.
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OFFICER 13 INCH posted:Got in a brand new Taurus at work and its absolutely appalling that a car of this size and weight has less knee room than the rental Focus I drove a couple months ago. It's my biggest complaint about my car ('13 Taurus). 9 months of ownership and I still can't really get comfortable during my long rear end commute. I miss my Fusion sometimes.
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OFFICER 13 INCH posted:Got in a brand new Taurus at work and its absolutely appalling that a car of this size and weight has less knee room than the rental Focus I drove a couple months ago. We just rented a Mitsubishi Outlander and a Mazda 3 hatch had more rear seat legroom and hiproom. Louder than my worn-out Subaru on the highway, hatch struts were blown at 24k km as well. Next time we'll just get a Mazda2. It's like a Chinese knockoff of a Ford Explorer, just sold at new-Japanese-car prices.
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fknlo posted:Ariel is supposed to be revealing their new car on January 9th. Wheres the antenna for the radio control?
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OFFICER 13 INCH posted:Got in a brand new Taurus at work and its absolutely appalling that a car of this size and weight has less knee room than the rental Focus I drove a couple months ago. Guy I got a lift from work to the airport with had a Taurus and I was _appalled_ at how little side-to-side legroom there was in the passenger well. I couldn't get comfortable. Ditto with the Dodge Charger, at least the '13 rental I had once. Unreal that cars that huge can still be kind of uncomfortable. My DD '13 Jetta? I fit fine in, and I'm a big guy. Wife's '12 Focus gets _slightly_ snug getting in/out but once in, just fine. Ridiculous.
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smr posted:Guy I got a lift from work to the airport with had a Taurus and I was _appalled_ at how little side-to-side legroom there was in the passenger well. I couldn't get comfortable. Ditto with the Dodge Charger, at least the '13 rental I had once. Unreal that cars that huge can still be kind of uncomfortable. I felt similar when I got a lift in one of the current generation Escapes. The front seats felt so cramped compared to my previous generation Escape. Mine might be low-rent, but it's roomy and simple.
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OFFICER 13 INCH posted:Got in a brand new Taurus at work and its absolutely appalling that a car of this size and weight has less knee room than the rental Focus I drove a couple months ago. So incredibly true. My 11 Taurus just got totaled, I replaced it with a new Fusion Titanium. I actually have the same room in my mid-size Fusion compared with the full-size Taurus. I was going to get another Taurus, but then I test drove the Fusion. I thought I was imagining the room it had at at first but then I looked at the dimensions. Taurus Front leg: 41.9 Front head: 39.0 Front hip: 56.3 Front shoulder: 57.9 Fusion Front leg: 44.3 Front head: 39.2 Front hip: 55.0 Front shoulder: 57.8
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Do you guys think the Hellcat will have classic Chrysler transmission problems? Dealership told me the transmission is sourced from another manufacturer who covers a wide variety of car brands and they claim that this is why it'll be a solid transmission this time.
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Kraftwerk posted:Do you guys think the Hellcat will have classic Chrysler transmission problems? Dealership told me the transmission is sourced from another manufacturer who covers a wide variety of car brands and they claim that this is why it'll be a solid transmission this time. The design is sourced. It's a ZF 8HP90 which is used in the rolls royce ghost and wraith. I'm fairly sure chrysler is still building it though, lke they do the 8HP45 and 8HP70 designs they license, in which case pennies will be pinched and corners will be cut.
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Also, the 6 speed is a Tremec piece, that's proven tech and shouldn't be an issue.
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Powershift posted:The design is sourced. It's a ZF 8HP90 which is used in the rolls royce ghost and wraith. Pretty much. I trust he design. I don't trust Chrysler to be able to make it.
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Right at this point, yeah, but I have a feeling stuff like that is gonna be the new "Japanese cars are cheap and will never challenge for market share" among the populace. Chrysler has issues but they are light years better than they were even five years ago.
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VikingSkull posted:Chrysler has issues but they are light years better than they were even five years ago. True, but so are Ford, Hyundai/Kia, even GM to some extent. They'll eventually make cars competently, the question is will they improve fast enough to stay alive while their competitors are significantly more polished and reliable.
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Fucknag posted:True, but so are Ford, Hyundai/Kia, even GM to some extent. They'll eventually make cars competently, the question is will they improve fast enough to stay alive while their competitors are significantly more polished and reliable. I would say that Hyundai/Kia is more polished than Chrysler and GM at this point.
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KillHour posted:I would say that Hyundai/Kia is more polished than Chrysler and GM at this point. I don't know about that. Our neighbor just bought a 2013 Optima and the paint on the rear bumper is peeling.
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Why is ZF apparently such a paragon of reliability? You guys never knew anyone who had an E61 7-series or the contemporary Jaguar XJ?
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Throatwarbler posted:Why is ZF apparently such a paragon of reliability? You guys never knew anyone who had an E61 7-series or the contemporary Jaguar XJ? Because the alternative is a Chrysler automatic transmission.
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Throatwarbler posted:Why is ZF apparently such a paragon of reliability? You guys never knew anyone who had an E61 7-series or the contemporary Jaguar XJ? As mentioned earlier, it doesn't matter how good a design is if it's built by a bunch of wombles.
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They've used a ZF 6spd gearbox in falcons for about 6 years, and they're way better than the old 4spd and 5spd gearboxes they used to offer. The only downside to the ZF has been ford's implementation of a cooler, the external lines blowing or the heat exchanger failing and coolant getting into the gearbox. I haven't heard of any problems otherwise. Coolant problems affected the 4spd and 5 spd too unsuprisingly, but they could fail mechanically as well but I haven't heard of the ZF failing yet (and only did a quick google then to see if things have changed with no results. E: Most people that own falcons and know what they are doing always bypass the factory transmission cooler and install a separate air cooler. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Jan 2, 2015 |
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Fucknag posted:True, but so are Ford, Hyundai/Kia, even GM to some extent. They'll eventually make cars competently, the question is will they improve fast enough to stay alive while their competitors are significantly more polished and reliable. Judging by their exploding market share, I'd say they have a good shot at it. Sergio Marchionne seems fairly competent, and as a Mopar guy I have faith in him.
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So Alfa have put out this sorta weird cheesy ad for the 4C: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkmfVsWunJ0
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Hog Obituary posted:So Alfa have put out this sorta weird cheesy ad for the 4C: I know sex sells but aren't they putting it on a little thick?
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I bet that ad is actually going to be very effective with the "I have lots of money but no personality, what car do I buy so women want to have sex with me?" demographic. Which is probably a fairly large one.
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Supple, leathery buttocks.
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Want to gently caress that car. ...still better than that Cadillac commercial about being a workoholic.
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Xguard86 posted:Want to gently caress that car. It's not about being a workaholic. It's about how everyone who doesn't drive a Cadillac is a lazy Commie welfare queen. Cadillac basically went "poo poo, the Escalade is so popular in the African American community, racist old white people don't want to drive them any more." And racist old white people used to be their biggest market. KillHour fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jan 3, 2015 |
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KillHour posted:It's not about being a workaholic. It's about how everyone who doesn't drive a Cadillac is a lazy Commie welfare queen. Cadillac basically went "poo poo, the Escalade is so popular in the African American community, racist old white people don't want to drive them any more." And racist old white people used to be their biggest market. I think old people was more Buick's bag, Cadillac was more for the flashy rear end in a top hat type of rich people
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Hog Obituary posted:So Alfa have put out this sorta weird cheesy ad for the 4C: And then when it breaks you realize, it's not you doing the loving.
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Tommychu posted:And then when it breaks you realize, it's not you doing the loving. When the warranty is up, that's when your rear end in a top hat starts to pucker waiting for the inevitable.
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Hog Obituary posted:So Alfa have put out this sorta weird cheesy ad for the 4C: I'm sorry, did he hit 88 miles an hour on his car yet and make her orgasm? I missed the climax. There should be a car commercial that has pretty much says "This car vibrates with such power, LOOK AT THAT GIRL HAVING AN ORGASM IN IT! DON'T YOU WANT TO DRIVE THIS CAR, MAN WHO IS SEEKING HOT CHICKS TO BED?!"
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