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Spaseman posted:What is the best unit makeup for my retinue? I'm in Ireland if that matters at all. Archers, archers and more archers. Even better if you can get someone Welsh with high Martial to command them.
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The amount of bugs that are so blatant in the recent DLCs (Rajas of India was just pitiful) is really disappointing me. The event spam, MTTH fuckery, and levy problem that turns nations docile in WoL is just stupid and would be easily noticed if they actually tested the game for five minutes. I want to play the game right now, but I can't if I want to have at least some form of a challenge.
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Node posted:tested the game for five minutes. Literally all that I'm asking for from the devs
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Eric the Mauve posted:Archers, archers and more archers. Even better if you can get someone Welsh with high Martial to command them. So should I just spam the skirmish retinue? I get 200 archers and 50 heavy infantry with that.
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Node posted:The amount of bugs that are so blatant in the recent DLCs (Rajas of India was just pitiful) is really disappointing me. You mean the problem that only affects the AI and that you'll only really notice if you know to look for it or you play for several hundred years and notice that the AI has been way too docile and figure it's not just an oddball game? Yeah sure 5 minutes of playing totally would have fixed that. I mean I get that you're upset that there's a bug, but seriously it's not like it's an awful horrible thing for them to take a goddamn vacation. At least with paradox you can trust that there will eventually be a patch, plenty of companies(and to be fair the less popular paradox games) will introduce a major bug and then just never fix it. The sheer number of patches and content that's been added to CK2 ever since it's release allows me to forgive them for some minor problems and not bitch and moan at them constantly every time they get something wrong(which occurs frequently because it turns out constantly changing and adding things can cause other things to break! Who knew?).. Zeron fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Dec 30, 2014 |
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Zeron posted:I mean I get that you're upset that there's a bug, but seriously it's not like it's an awful horrible thing for them to take a goddamn vacation. I think people are more angry at the fact that they released new content that's buggy right at the start of their holiday vacation so we have to wait until the 5th just to get an actual response from them.
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Zeron posted:it turns out constantly changing and adding things can cause other things to break! Who knew? Well, not Paradox, because they released this thing that was obviously going to need a patch (because everything they release does), and probably very soon, right before their holiday break.
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TheMcD posted:Well, not Paradox, because they released this thing that was obviously going to need a patch (because everything they release does), and probably very soon, right before their holiday break.
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awesmoe posted:Would you rather not have WoL till the second week in january? Yes. Not sure what your point here is. I don't need to have everything NOW.
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Spaseman posted:So should I just spam the skirmish retinue? I get 200 archers and 50 heavy infantry with that. Here's a link with "optimal" retinue setups, as of 2.2. The best setup is mostly Longbow (if English/Welsh) or Skirmish with some Defense and Light Skirmish mixed in. Try to scrounge up an English or Welsh commander if possible so you can get the Massive Volley tactic. If you're Italian or Scottish, you can also go all-pikes (but have some levies around for sieges, since siege progress is based on Skirmish rating, and pikes don't have much of that). Arabic all-Camel Cavalry retinues are also pretty good in battles.
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TheMcD posted:Yes. Not sure what your point here is. I don't need to have everything NOW. I'm pissed off that it's not WaD because it's really loving good.
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If they held it back, I wouldn't know what I'm missing.
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TheMcD posted:Yes. Not sure what your point here is. I don't need to have everything NOW. (also its kind of iffy but nobody - nobody - intentionally misses a christmas ship date just because there are probably some bugs. Especially when it's going to be a steam daily deal)
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TheMcD posted:Well, yeah, because the bug was introduced in 2.3. I'm on 2.3 and I have not noticed my game being affected by the bug. As a data point, I have WoL but not Charlemagne.
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Zeron posted:The sheer number of patches and content that's been added to CK2 ever since it's release allows me to forgive them for some minor problems and not bitch and moan at them constantly every time they get something wrong(which occurs frequently because it turns out constantly changing and adding things can cause other things to break! Who knew?).. yeah what the gently caress is up with these entitled dipshits? "i wish they'd tested and found the game breaking bug i have to wait weeks to be fixed before release" oh boo loving hoo you loving whiner, they added a bunch of poorly balanced features to the game so who cares that there's a minor issue where the AI becomes permanently unable to declare war.
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Jedit posted:I'm on 2.3 and I have not noticed my game being affected by the bug. As a data point, I have WoL but not Charlemagne. I'm on 2.3, have WoL but not Charlemagne and most definitely have noticed my game being affected by the bug. It really is a gamefucker.
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actually it is only a minor issue that the AI cannot perform the most important diplomatic act in the game. please refer to previous posts in this thread.
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awesmoe posted:Interesting. I think most people would rather have the DLC 3 or 4 weeks earlier, even with a serious (not gamebreaking) bug.
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e^^^ FINALLY. My game as the gay voodoo empress of texas was just not complete until I was able to cuck my uncle by banging my twin sister and impregnating her/me simultaneously. e2: I'd like to take this time to plug for After the End--the only CK2 mod where you can rule an empire not only through seduction, but also by turning your vassals into brain-dead puppets. After the End: Voodoo Economics Work Also you can totally find a gun and an in battle an event may fire where you kill off some random unfortunate count/duke/king and you become known as the Thunderhand or the Firebringer. Be a real Minnesota Viking and use guns. BBJoey posted:actually it is only a minor issue that the AI cannot perform the most important diplomatic act in the game. please refer to previous posts in this thread. Actually, it represents the historical reality of how most medieval polities were hard pressed to go to war because their soldiers were forever trapped in a Grand Tourney event. MLKQUOTEMACHINE fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Dec 30, 2014 |
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BBJoey posted:actually it is only a minor issue that the AI cannot perform the most important diplomatic act in the game. please refer to previous posts in this thread. I don't think anyone is saying that a bug preventing the AI from declaring war is a minor bug. Something that bad is clearly a massive problem. A few people (myself included) have said they haven't noticed it yet, because in my case at least, there are still wars going on all over the place.
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Yeah, but if it's more than 50 years in and you take a moment to check you'll see they're all revolts.
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Nckdictator posted:
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SeaTard posted:I don't think anyone is saying that a bug preventing the AI from declaring war is a minor bug. Something that bad is clearly a massive problem. Zeron posted:The sheer number of patches and content that's been added to CK2 ever since it's release allows me to forgive them for some minor problems and not bitch and moan at them constantly every time they get something wrong(which occurs frequently because it turns out constantly changing and adding things can cause other things to break! Who knew?).. 
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I think it's fair to criticize--hell, to crush--Paradox for scheduling a two week all-staff vacation immediately after a new DLC release, when they know very well that every new DLC release introduces at least one gamefucking bug. But let's face it, we also know very well that every new DLC release introduces at least one gamefucking bug, so if we didn't see this coming we're just naive. I'm content to just play other games for a few weeks.
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nutranurse posted:e^^^ FINALLY. My game as the gay voodoo empress of texas was just not complete until I was able to cuck my uncle by banging my twin sister and impregnating her/me simultaneously. In my Empire of Great Jersey game, I rolled with Enatic only and had Empress Misty the Firebringer and Empress Summer Thunderhand. I cucked many husbands and made my own Ursuline Anti-Abbess-General, then vassalized Cap-Diamant and legitimized my girl. #aftertheend4lyfe
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Eric the Mauve posted:I'm content to just play other games for a few weeks. That doesn't really solve anything though because the next DLC will just introduce some other glaring issue.
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TOOT BOOT posted:That doesn't really solve anything though because the next DLC will just introduce some other glaring issue. Indeed it will. Next time I'll just stay rolled back to before that patch until after it gets fixed. I mean... it's Paradox, we know what we're getting.
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Didn't the first Crusader Kings need a patch on release day, otherwise it'd crash during loading?
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nutranurse posted:Actually, it represents the historical reality of how most medieval polities were hard pressed to go to war because their soldiers were forever trapped in a Grand Tourney event. the never ending courier/vassal crippling tourneys was the best bug if i roll back to 2.2.x and start a new iron man game can i keep playing it when i update to the patch to fix the levy issue? will it still count as iron man and enable WoL content?
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catlord posted:Didn't the first Crusader Kings need a patch on release day, otherwise it'd crash during loading? That was old Paradox though. Both EUIV and CK2 were quite functional on release. CK2 was quite threadbare compared to the CK2 of today but it was still a fun game.
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YouTuber posted:That was old Paradox though. Both EUIV and CK2 were quite functional on release. CK2 was quite threadbare compared to the CK2 of today but it was still a fun game. Absolutely, I'm just thinking that as bad as some of these bugs are, still better than old Paradox. I just got Charlemagne and Way of Life, and updated my mods, so this is the first time I've booted it up since Charlemagne came out.
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Though the can't-release-levies thing is pretty bad, bug-wise, it's also one of those things you wouldn't notice unless you were in the specific right circumstances. They could have playtested a lot and never caught it.
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Has anyone else gotten the bug where the entire world becomes permanently hostile to you? I inherited some land from my son now literally every holding in the world is in red and their troops can attack me. I'm not in any current wars or being raided.
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It's just disappointing after EU4 and CK2 had much better releases than previous Paradox games to feel like it's sliding back to previous standards. At least we won't have to wait months for it to be playable. The xmas vacation timing is unfortunate but understandable.
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Zeron posted:You mean the problem that only affects the AI and that you'll only really notice if you know to look for it or you play for several hundred years and notice that the AI has been way too docile and figure it's not just an oddball game? Yeah sure 5 minutes of playing totally would have fixed that. The five minute thing is, mostly, hyperbole. Yes, I expect them to play the game. You know, test it. Make a finished product before asking people to buy it. awesmoe posted:Would you rather not have WoL till the second week in january? Is this a rhetorical question? Yes.
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Average Bear posted:Has anyone else gotten the bug where the entire world becomes permanently hostile to you? I inherited some land from my son now literally every holding in the world is in red and their troops can attack me. I'm not in any current wars or being raided. If you have norse vassals I think they can raid freely unless you have the Crown Level that keeps them from declaring war. I was also like "Why is everyone hostile to me" until I realized this. I have never seen an enemy retaliate for a raid by bringing their troops onto my turf though, so it hasn't affected me so far. Except for the constant message spam telling me how my vassals are getting rich and fat plundering England.
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Vengarr posted:If you have norse vassals I think they can raid freely unless you have the Crown Level that keeps them from declaring war. I have no norse vassals and I'm not exaggerating when I say every single person in the world is hostile to me. Even all of India.
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Save and restart. It's a known bug.
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awesmoe posted:Would you rather not have WoL till the second week in january? Would you rather they'd released it in say October with whatever if anything they'd done by then and drip-fed it to you as it was actually developed? No, you want a finished product. That's all anyone is asking for.
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