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pram: Jun 10, 2001

depends on the server specs. distro doesnt matter. id use lxc, no point w/ kvm or xen. or coreos if you want to deploy docker containers. lxc is closer to a standard vm though

# ? Dec 28, 2014 11:52

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# ? May 27, 2024 10:16

pram: Jun 10, 2001

but why a home server at all, why not buy a vps?

# ? Dec 28, 2014 11:53

theadder: Dec 30, 2011

v few vpses at the bottom of the sea

# ? Dec 28, 2014 11:54

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

theadder posted:

v few vpses at the bottom of the sea

When sealand sinks, there will be quite a few more.

# ? Dec 28, 2014 15:56

ahmeni: May 1, 2005; It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.; Grimey Drawer

bobbilljim posted:

alright you h8rs what is teh tallest midget of the linux world??

say for a work desktop or maybe a home server (bear in mind that i need linux for work, and id like to dick around with a linux server specifically)

also vis a vis server would it be best to install some kind of bullshit hypervisor thing and then just run vms on it or what

virtualbox if you want something to gently caress around on without destroying your real computer

# ? Dec 29, 2014 11:44

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

ahmeni posted:

virtualbox if you want something to gently caress around on without destroying your real computer

virtualbox is bad, don't use it

# ? Dec 29, 2014 12:04

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

Soricidus posted:

virtualbox is bad, don't use it

it does video. audio. and networking just fine. it also has clipboard sharing. variable screen resolution. and folder sharing.

what's so bad about it :confused:

# ? Dec 29, 2014 12:10

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

If by 'just fine' you mean breaks horribly every other point release then yeah

# ? Dec 29, 2014 12:13

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

why are you upgrading the host so dang much?

# ? Dec 29, 2014 12:55

Maximum Leader: Dec 5, 2014

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

it does video. audio. and networking just fine. it also has clipboard sharing. variable screen resolution. and folder sharing.

what's so bad about it

doesn't compare to something like parallels desktop, its like night and day. there is no reason to virtual box unless you are literally a third world street dog.

# ? Dec 29, 2014 14:44

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

why are you upgrading the host so dang much?

Why are you using something that breaks whenever you upgrade the host ?

# ? Dec 29, 2014 14:52

Last Chance: Dec 31, 2004

lmao virtualbox is hot stinking garbage. put linux on top of that and baby you got a garbage stew going

# ? Dec 29, 2014 14:58

Dairy Days: Dec 26, 2007

kvm+qemu, why would you use an oracle product you could avoid using

# ? Dec 29, 2014 15:16

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Best viewed on Orgasma Plasma; Lipstick Apathy

i think any hypervisor can run linux ok, but vmware still runs windows the best
hyper-v probably run windows ok, but lol at running hyper v

# ? Dec 29, 2014 15:23

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

Palace of Hate posted:

kvm+qemu, why would you use an oracle product you could avoid using

can this run on windows? how do you set it up?

# ? Dec 29, 2014 15:53

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

Two days left guys, can Linux pull this one out of its rear end?

# ? Dec 29, 2014 15:55

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

keyvin posted:

Two days left guys, can Linux pull this one out of its rear end?

# ? Dec 29, 2014 16:01

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

if you didn't have to compile your own kernel it's not a real linux

# ? Dec 29, 2014 16:06

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

Soricidus posted:

if you didn't have to compile your own kernel it's not a real linux

that was a joke

i would never claim android is linux, a good os, or a finished product.

# ? Dec 29, 2014 16:18

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

if you're on windows then use vmware

kvm+qemu on linux is mostly intended for server virtualization but it can run a windows 7 desktop acceptably too. you have to pay red hat if you want signed guest drivers but w/e do you really care about a "Test Mode" decal?

# ? Dec 29, 2014 16:35

Dairy Days: Dec 26, 2007

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

can this run on windows? how do you set it up?

it can run windows, it can even run windows native drivers and have pcie slots passed to it allowing windows to fully control the devices

see ur distro specific wiki and search kvm. theres multiple full gui tools to use it

edit: wow i totally hosed up reading that post

Dairy Days fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Dec 29, 2014

# ? Dec 29, 2014 17:14

Progressive JPEG: Feb 19, 2003

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

can this run on windows? how do you set it up?

i just happened to be looking at running linux in a windows host yesterday so heres some links but i havent tried any of this yet:

qemu(+kvm) builds for windows: http://qemu.weilnetz.de/w64/
vmware player: https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_player/7_0

# ? Dec 29, 2014 17:22

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

kvm runs windows, it doesn't run ON windows. it's a linux kernel module. qemu on linux uses it to virtualize the cpu instead of emulating it.

you need a virtualization-capable cpu to use it but that's most cpus these days, poo poo even my 32-bit-only atom router has vt-x for some reason.

# ? Dec 29, 2014 17:27

pram: Jun 10, 2001

Last Chance posted:

lmao virtualbox is hot stinking garbage. put linux on top of that and baby you got a garbage stew going

lol

# ? Dec 29, 2014 19:43

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Last Chance posted:

a garbage stew

it's this thread lmbo

# ? Dec 29, 2014 20:55

theadder: Dec 30, 2011

keyvin posted:

Two days left guys, can Linux pull this one out of its rear end?

i still believe pleasure keyvin

# ? Dec 30, 2014 01:08

cowboy beepboop: Feb 24, 2001

redhat is getting gnome 3.14

# ? Dec 30, 2014 11:37

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

its an old core 2 duo that i got to gently caress around with lol. fedora was slow on it but i think it was mostly the abysmal hdd

# ? Dec 30, 2014 13:40

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

my stepdads beer posted:

redhat is getting gnome 3.14

Yeah, that's been in the works for a while. RHEL major releases are getting desktop rebases, something our customers have asking for for a long time.

# ? Dec 30, 2014 17:30

Ator: Oct 1, 2005

https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2349257 (2012 blog post)

using a linux is like perusing a bazaar and selecting wares

# ? Dec 30, 2014 22:06

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

Ator posted:

https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2349257 (2012 blog post)

using a linux is like perusing a bazaar and selecting wares

A third world bazaar where the streets are full of poo poo and piss, and the goods are only half finished.

# ? Dec 30, 2014 22:26

xylo: Feb 21, 2007; <img src="https://forumimages.somethingawful.com/images/newbie.gif" border=0>

Ator posted:

https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2349257 (2012 blog post)

using a linux is like perusing a bazaar and selecting wares

Salty comments

quote:

tony | Tue, 30 Dec 2014 14:41:15 UTC
The solution seems obvious. The author should simply hire a few dozen top-end architects, coders, QA, and process experts and task them to create a new Unix. This one will be so small and wonderful that everyone will use it. Now, this can easily cost $7M/year for salaries alone. The chaotic mess that is Unix was created by hordes of people largely working for free. Without them, there would be no mess because there would be no code. We'd be running pure ASCII terminals and would browse using Lynx. Unixy bliss can be had for $7M/year. So, throw down.

Taking bets on the beard length of the poster.. I'm guessing 1.5ft.

# ? Dec 30, 2014 22:47

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

Ator posted:

https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2349257 (2012 blog post)

using a linux is like perusing a bazaar and selecting wares

oooft

quote:

This is probably also why libtool's configure probes no fewer than 26 different names for the Fortran compiler my system does not have, and then spends another 26 tests to find out if each of these nonexistent Fortran compilers supports the -g option.

That is the sorry reality of the bazaar Raymond praised in his book: a pile of old festering hacks, endlessly copied and pasted by a clueless generation of IT "professionals" who wouldn't recognize sound IT architecture if you hit them over the head with it. It is hard to believe today, but under this embarrassing mess lies the ruins of the beautiful cathedral of Unix, deservedly famous for its simplicity of design, its economy of features, and its elegance of execution. (Sic transit gloria mundi, etc.)

# ? Dec 30, 2014 23:46

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

http://pdp11.aiju.de/

well, minimal is certainly one word to describe old unix.

the sad thing is, as bad as autotools are the alternatives are all worse. at least autotools can be used to automatically build software for packaging without an inordinate amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth.

# ? Dec 30, 2014 23:54

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

Maybe he should just get a Mac.

# ? Dec 31, 2014 01:07

Dairy Days: Dec 26, 2007

its pretty amazing any linuxes function at all when you think about it

# ? Dec 31, 2014 02:04

pram: Jun 10, 2001

keyvin posted:

Maybe he should just get a Mac.

# ? Dec 31, 2014 02:08

pram: Jun 10, 2001

Mr Dog posted:

http://pdp11.aiju.de/

well, minimal is certainly one word to describe old unix.

the sad thing is, as bad as autotools are the alternatives are all worse. at least autotools can be used to automatically build software for packaging without an inordinate amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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# ? Dec 31, 2014 02:09

pram: Jun 10, 2001

pdp11 unix is NOT posix compliant

# ? Dec 31, 2014 02:11

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# ? May 27, 2024 10:16

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

pram posted:

pdp11 unix is NOT posix compliant

Looks like poetterin was right.

# ? Dec 31, 2014 03:16

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