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Broder's got a few words to say about that. http://www.welt.de/debatte/henryk-m-broder/article135586551/Das-deutsche-Festival-des-Wahnsinns.html quote:Bei den jüngsten Protesten wächst auseinander, was nicht zusammengehört: auf der einen Seite die Politik, die verordnet, was man hierzulande meinen darf – auf der anderen das angeblich "dumme" Volk. quote:Der nordrhein-westfälische Innenminister Ralf Jäger, ebenfalls SPD, sieht "Neonazis in Nadelstreifen" am Werk. quote:Was wir seit einigen Monaten in Deutschland erleben, ist ein Festival des Wahnsinns, dessen Protagonisten keine wildgewordenen Kleinbürger, keine Nationalisten und keine Rassisten sind, schon gar nicht Nazis in Nadelstreifen, sondern seriöse und staatstragende Politiker, die sich wie Feudalfürsten am Ende des 18. Jahrhunderts benehmen, Regenten, die ihre Macht und ihre Privilegien mit niemandem teilen wollen. quote:Die Parolen, die von den "Angstbürgern" mitgeführt werden, erfüllen auch keinen Straftatbestand, bis jetzt ist noch kein Verfahren wegen Volksverhetzung bekannt worden. quote:Der Berliner Bezirksbürgermeister Heinz Buschkowsky, SPD, redet seit Jahren darüber, was in seinem Stadtteil passiert. In Neukölln leben 320.000 Menschen – so viele wie auf Island – "von denen 140.000 aus allen Himmelsrichtungen zusammengeweht wurden". Vor allem in den Schulen läuft "der Versuch einer allmählichen Landnahme des Fundamentalismus mit dem Ziel, eine andere Gesellschaftsordnung zu schaffen als die, die wir westliche Demokratie nennen". quote:Ist der Mann auch ein "Angstbürger", ein "Nationalist" und "Rassist", gar ein "Nazi in Nadelstreifen"? Oder nur ein Realist, der die Fakten beim Namen nennt? In fünf Jahren, wenn es in Dresden so aussieht wie in Neukölln heute und in Neukölln so wie in Islamabad, wissen wir mehr.
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"Broder" posted:Ist der Mann auch ein "Angstbürger", ein "Nationalist" und "Rassist", gar ein "Nazi in Nadelstreifen"? Oder nur ein Realist, der die Fakten beim Namen nennt? In fünf Jahren, wenn es in Dresden so aussieht wie in Neukölln heute und in Neukölln so wie in Islamabad, wissen wir mehr. So in five years the percentage of muslims in Dresden will rise from some fraction of a percent to 50%? Either these people are stupid or just fear-mongering populists.
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*reads Broders wikipedia entry* Figures that he's a climate change denier as well. What a massive arsehole.
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Munich had a great PEGIDA counter-demonstration on monday evening. According to the police at least 12000 people showed up to drown out the handful of PEGIDA demonstrators. Hope they finally move on to greener pastures, too many non-strawman immigrants living here for that PEGIDA poo poo to fly. http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/anti-pegida-demo-muenchner-setzen-ein-zeichen-1.2279099  
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Riso posted:Broder's got a few words to say about that. System Metternich posted:What a massive arsehole.
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frankenfreak posted:Re: Leitkultur Well, it just shows that the artist does not know what the "Orient" or where "Kardamon" and "Zimt" are from, because if we use the definition that is the most prevalent today, none of the ingredience for Christstollen are from it. But I guess it's just a simple attempt to make the point that the Orient is part of German culture somehow, because we imported some spices from there.
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GaussianCopula posted:Well, it just shows that the artist does not know what the "Orient" or where "Kardamon" and "Zimt" are from, because if we use the definition that is the most prevalent today, none of the ingredience for Christstollen are from it. But I guess it's just a simple attempt to make the point that the Orient is part of German culture somehow, because we imported some spices from there. as if the nazi fucks of pegida give a poo poo about where the orient actually is and would welcome desi refugees with open arms. kinder statt inder anyone
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Pegida is actually bad for German culture. Culture is a living and changing thing. They want to kill German culture by strangulating it. Pegida is anti-German. Christianity is not from Germany. There would be no Currywurst if we closed off Germany. Soccer is not a German sport. Lucy Heartfilia fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Dec 24, 2014 |
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Pegida is actually bad for German culture. Culture is a living and changing thing. They want to kill German culture by strangulating it. Pegida is anti-German. The first part is all true, but you get off the rails in the second. Germany as a nation or identity has always been Christian (until the evil Soviets came along, at least), Soccer comes from fellow Western Europeans and many Pegida people would probably not miss Currywurst too much. This doesn't change the fact that Pegida is a racist and dangerous ideology, of course.
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I actually picked my examples to illustrate how difficult a definition of German culture is. People randomly pick points of time and aspects. Many nazis for example didn't see Chrisitanity as the German religion, but had a fetish for paganism. The soccer example shows how focus is shifting from the German identity to a more European one over time. This is a good trend, because there were times, when hatred of the neighboring nations was much bigger than for more distant ones. And the Currywurst is pretty German and the pride of many people and a good example for a living and always evolving culture.
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GaussianCopula posted:Well, it just shows that the artist does not know what the "Orient" or where "Kardamon" and "Zimt" are from, because if we use the definition that is the most prevalent today, none of the ingredience for Christstollen are from it. But I guess it's just a simple attempt to make the point that the Orient is part of German culture somehow, because we imported some spices from there. It's called a metaphor, I think? Take a look at Japans demographics, if you want to see how white bread Germany would look like. You may not like foreign cultures mixing with German cultures, but you will accept it, because the alternative is even worse for you personally. This is not a threat but a simple fact. Retired people need to eat too. I dream of living in a society one day where culture mixing is not a controversial thing. US goons, tell me how it is to live in such a wonderful place. Does honey flow from the sky? Do you ever grow old?
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Its pretty great once you get past all the cops and the white people. At least we're working hard on getting rid of the latter group.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:I actually picked my examples to illustrate how difficult a definition of German culture is. People randomly pick points of time and aspects. Many nazis for example didn't see Chrisitanity as the German religion, but had a fetish for paganism. The soccer example shows how focus is shifting from the German identity to a more European one over time. This is a good trend, because there were times, when hatred of the neighboring nations was much bigger than for more distant ones. And the Currywurst is pretty German and the pride of many people and a good example for a living and always evolving culture.
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Looks like ya'll got infiltrated http://www.thelocal.de/20140414/the-mafia-has-infiltrated-every-sector-in-germany
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Yeah, but business in concrete shoes and horse heads is booming!
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Cats and dogs living together So, whats next?
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Oh no! Next thing the Greens are starting wars of aggression and the Socialists are axing welfare! 
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Die Mitte: 16 CDU – 7 // SPD – 2 // FDP – 2 // Bürgerinitiative Friedersdorf – 2 // Burgkemnitzer Heimat- und Naturverein e.V. – 1 // Wählerliste Gossa – 1 // Einzelbewerber – 1 Pro Muldestausee: 11 Die Linke – 2 // AfD – 2 // Wählergruppe Feuerwehr Muldestausee – 3 // Bürgerinitiative Pouch – 2 // Wählergemeinschaft Kinder, Jugend und Familie – 1 // Einzelbewerber – 1 fraktionslos: 1 Wählergruppe Feuerwehrverein Schwemsal As long as the Wählergruppe Feuerwehr Muldestausee has more seats than the AfD, I wouldn't be that worried. And as a added bonus, you can vote for two different firefighters parties 
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If I understand this correctly, the fraktion "Pro Muldestausee" is actually dominated by the Firefighters Muldestausee, and everyone else are hangalongs. Truely, by keeping the Linke and the AFD together in one fraction, the Firefighters have shown their excellent leadership capacities. the combination of these, and their natural firefighting skills will eventually even defeat Merkelsandre! I for one welcome our new firefighting overlords.
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Fun fact: Gemeindeparlamente technically aren't parliaments.  (And anything goes on the muncipal level.)
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Randler posted:Fun fact: Gemeindeparlamente technically aren't parliaments. That's not a very fun fact, you lied! 
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3peat posted:Looks like ya'll got infiltrated http://www.thelocal.de/20140414/the-mafia-has-infiltrated-every-sector-in-germany Unrelated, but I just want to take a moment to say that the Pope has major balls for excommunicating the Mafia.
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Grendels Dad posted:Unrelated, but I just want to take a moment to say that the Pope has major balls for excommunicating the Mafia.
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Cingulate posted:I don't get what's up with that guy. Is this just what happens when a regular person becomes the pope? Or is he an exceptionally brave guy? Or have they always been like this? Let's just say that even some protestants are pleasantly surprised by that guy. I guess having worked with actual people that have actual problems helps a lot.
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gipskrampf posted:And as a added bonus, you can vote for two different firefighters parties
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Cingulate posted:I don't get what's up with that guy. Is this just what happens when a regular person becomes the pope? Or is he an exceptionally brave guy? Or have they always been like this? He's a Jesuite, the most badass order ever.
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Modern Jesuits have nothing to do with the old "bad rear end" ones except for the name. I think you want "Opus Dei" instead.
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Riso posted:Modern Jesuits have nothing to do with the old "bad rear end" ones except for the name. I think you want "Opus Dei" instead. Is that the order Lasko - Die Faust Gottes comes from?
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Forgall posted:Somebody make German version Is this some elaborate joke on the French Revolution? Randler posted:
e) Politicians f) foreign politicians g) Russians, Kurds and other foreigners we don't like I asked my relatives for help. Strangely, they have nothing against Muslims. They just think Muslims are some kind of liberals, because they don't eat pork and don't drink.
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MEINUNGSUMFRAGE: Who or what will destroy German culture?
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Libluini posted:Is this some elaborate joke on the French Revolution? It's from some infographic about how repealing the Bush tax cuts would doom all the people making more than 250k a year to crushing poverty. Someone in DnD thought that everyone on that graphic represented the oppressing class and should be killed.
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ArchangeI posted:It's from some infographic about how repealing the Bush tax cuts would doom all the people making more than 250k a year to crushing poverty. Someone in DnD thought that everyone on that graphic represented the oppressing class and should be killed. Oh, that's less funny by an order of magnitude. Too bad.
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Grendels Dad posted:Is that the order Lasko - Die Faust Gottes comes from? Never heard of that before but wiki tells me Lasko was an ex-soldoer who become a monk where he trained to become "Pugnus Dei". What a stupid show.
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The infographics were from a Wall Street Journal HENRY (High Earners, Not Rich Yet) article, to be more specific.
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I'm ashamed of myself that I haven't even heard of this! Was this in the news when it happened? Did it get suppressed when it became clear it wasn't a hate crime against immigrants?? The kid was of indian decent and knew the victims not that it really matters, Were there any more indicators of that crime? The last article I found was from February 2014.
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pincky posted:Die Zeit hat einen Rückblick auf die Ereignisse in Hamburg 2014
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pincky posted:Die Zeit hat einen Rückblick auf die Ereignisse in Hamburg 2014 There is a gentleman's agreement in the media to not report on this kind of thing because it could encourage others to do the same. You won't find much about pyromaniacs (the fact that the kid was in a volunteer firefighter is a good hint for that) in the press. It's the same as suicide's. He probably targeted the refugee home because to divert the investigation in the direction of Nazis instead of him.
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