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lol aww and i doubt homie who wrote it will fix it since idk what happened but he had to pull it down a long time back right
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BobHoward posted:this was the point at which you guys should have realized that the illumos hogfarmer guy is either loving stupid or so prone to overblown snark that there was no reason to read further uefi is a clusterfuck the "microsoft royalties" are the $99 you have to pay to verisign to get your poo poo signed with microsoft's key. (what stops you from paying to have something malicious signed? your guess is as good as mine. but it's SECURE!) the "dos" comment is the loving idiotic retreat from arch-independent firmware. one of the changes when we went from "old" EFI to UEFI is that x86 real mode code is allowed in card firmware again. so efi is hypothetically arch independent but in reality 100% of licensed firmware and 3rd party PCI-E cards you can buy have hard deps on x86 or x86-64 code buried in option ROMs
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woke up this morning and somehow linux was running on my desktop! it's a miracle 2015 truly is the year people. had to write this on my phone 'cause the wifi isn't working yet tho
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Jan 1, 2015 23:09
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this ones for you, the linux desktop developer. who labors tirelessly to produce something no one but a small coterie of social outcasts will ever use *raises glass*
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Jan 1, 2015 23:16
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fritz posted:next year, on the desktop on all other OSes we use closed source or open source software, why on this OS do we only use open source software? on all other OSes we use all kinds of user interfaces, why on this OS do we only use ugly user interfaces? on all other OSes we do not enclose software in packages even once, why on this OS do we package software at least twice? on all other OSes we compute while clean-shaven or bearded, why on this OS do we only compute while bearded?
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Jan 1, 2015 23:52
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pram posted:this ones for you, the linux desktop developer. who labors tirelessly to produce something no one but a small coterie of social outcasts will ever use *raises glass* *to the theme of budweiser Real American Heroes commercial, panning over to a beardo in stained tee singly and determinedly pressing the enter key, screen flashes "SUCCESS" in green, guy fist pumps in slow motion*
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Dominus Vobiscum posted:on all other OSes we use closed source or open source software, why on this OS do we only use open source software? hahahahhaahahah
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:uefi is a clusterfuck these are still dumb and bad opinions which you / hogfarmer should be ashamed of holding if you are making hardware and you need it to boot windows and therefore start paying signing fees (1) that isn't a royalty and (2) a $99 fee collected in very small volumes is a "don't bug us if you are a dumb teenager" scheme, not a serious attempt at generating revenue. it probably doesn't pay for administration costs tbqh. the "slightly modernized ms-dos" crack is pants on head material even when rationalized that way. forex, thanks to the magic of the uefi environment, any post 2010 mac can literally boot and install os x over the internet even if its boot ssd/hdd is completely wiped with zeroes and the only possible network connection is wifi, and it does all this with a friendly gui interface. i've seen one of the devs at apple responsible for one of their modern uefi based firmware features opine in public that it would have been somewhere on the spectrum of annoying-to-impossible to write in OpenFirmware, BIOS, or any other firmware not as sophisticated as efi, and iirc this was a guy who had experience with OF "magic" is of course hyperbole on my part, it's just software and i'm sure there are ugly warts (it's an intel software specification after all), but calling it nothing but a tarted up dos and/or bios is trolling or evidence of fundamental lack of clue, take your pick. also nobody actually cares about processor independence in third party pcie card firmware, there is no demand for it. if this changes, e.g. by arm server cpus ever becoming anything more than a device for suctioning money from vcs, uefi is ready.
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BobHoward posted:these are still dumb and bad opinions which you / hogfarmer should be ashamed of holding UEFI doesn't obsolete ACPI, a garbage system for horrible people but the arm world has basically standardized on shipping chunks of the linux kernel around instead!!!
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BobHoward posted:a $99 fee collected in very small volumes is a "don't bug us if you are a linux (except maybe red hat)" scheme micro$$$oft running scared
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this is the year, my friends, I know it heres a wager: if 2015 is not, in fact, the year of linux on the desktop, I will personally install a linux on my desktop, and not post again until both wifi and sound are working at the same time. oh wait I already did that!!! never mind then
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yeah yeah come back when you;ve installed graphics drivers
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that's sorted too as long as the proprietary nvidia ones count, life's too short for open source video drivers
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bobbilljim posted:yeah yeah come back when you;ve installed graphics drivers lol
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Soricidus posted:life's too short for open source
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BobHoward posted:also nobody actually cares about processor independence in anything but beardo world, and they don't pay
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theadder posted:lunix kills Fun fact. Reiser killed his wife during an argument over whether Con Kolivas ever contributed anything of note to the kernel.
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BobHoward posted:"magic" is of course hyperbole on my part, it's just software phew, thanks for clearing that up
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Jan 2, 2015 18:29
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I was like whoa hey there Harry potter!!! hahaha
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rotor posted:I was like whoa hey there Harry potter!!! hahaha https://github.com/teoljungberg/harry-potter
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I'd use linux if there was a Harry Potter themed distribution. edit: whoa ^^^
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rotor posted:phew, thanks for clearing that up  glad i could help being worried about magick isn't fun
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BobHoward posted:if you are making hardware and you need it to boot windows and therefore start paying signing fees (1) that isn't a royalty and (2) a $99 fee collected in very small volumes is a "don't bug us if you are a dumb teenager" scheme, not a serious attempt at generating revenue. it probably doesn't pay for administration costs tbqh. it's $99 paid to accomplish nothing. it's not the $99, it's the stupid. security that costs $99 to handwave away isn't security. no one is satisfied with secure boot except microsoft BobHoward posted:the "slightly modernized ms-dos" crack is pants on head material even when rationalized that way. forex, thanks to the magic of the uefi environment, any post 2010 mac can literally boot and install os x over the internet even if its boot ssd/hdd is completely wiped with zeroes and the only possible network connection is wifi, and it does all this with a friendly gui interface. i've seen one of the devs at apple responsible for one of their modern uefi based firmware features opine in public that it would have been somewhere on the spectrum of annoying-to-impossible to write in OpenFirmware, BIOS, or any other firmware not as sophisticated as efi, and iirc this was a guy who had experience with OF efi was already plenty sophisticated to support cool use cases like apple had in mind. bodging it up to satisfy hardware vendors, packaging a legacy BIOS, and creating uefi was not a win. oh boy, another 20 years of servers that have hard dependencies on a graphics head OCRed to text at 40 characters a second BobHoward posted:also nobody actually cares about processor independence in third party pcie card firmware, there is no demand for it. if this changes, e.g. by arm server cpus ever becoming anything more than a device for suctioning money from vcs, uefi is ready. that's just the problem. intel did care about independence, but hardware vendors pushed them until they gave up and retreated. as a result, uefi is not ready for aarch64 -- if someone made an ARM server, most of your UEFI-compatible PCI-E cards would still fail to work in it, because they had gross legacy option ROMs permitted by the new and shittier efi spec
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this is boring. bsd talk about microkernels instead. how about spring os huh buddy u know u wanna talk about it
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i keep reading this threads title as "2014 years of linux on the desktop" and always think "drat thats a really harsh punishment"
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pram posted:this is boring. bsd talk about microkernels instead. how about spring os huh buddy u know u wanna talk about it
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mi-cro-kernels! mi-cro-kernels!
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newreply.php posted:i keep reading this threads title as "2014 years of linux on the desktop" and always think "drat thats a really harsh punishment" almost as bad as reading your posts, but not quite
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pram posted:hp already makes arm blades I never asked for this
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:no one is satisfied with secure boot except microsoft i dunno im pretty satisfied with it op
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its about time the mac - best linux - switch over to arm. because gently caress flash and office, we don't need that poo poo anymore. steve already showed the way by being stronlgly anti flash. we don't need tim to tell us again, we already know it.
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appears that deja dup (backups) just plain doesnt work on 14.10 ubuntu gnome https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1398214 extremely cool... for me.... piss
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just installed wolfenstein new order on my sweet-rear end gnome 3 box and it runs fuckin great via wine thread title is real life
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i just deployed bittorrent sync on coreos on digitalocean, and now i am my own kim dot com. except even fatter
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