Dyna Soar posted:

i haven't paid much attention, but as far as i know there's hardly any info outside of a few concept art and what they said in the kickstarter campaign.

MegaGatts posted:

Mods
BG and BG2 mods, I have not tested these with BG:EE or BG2:EE, but I have heard reports that they work except for the BG NPC mod, and I don't think anyone has tried ascension for BG2 yet.

Xander77 posted:

Is this still true? Which mods do / don't work with BG1/2, which ones are no longer necessary with the new extended versions, any mods that are specific to these versions?

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Where the hell is Rose Bouquet? I can't find her to finish the skinner murder quest. Is this a bug in BG2:EE?

Xander77 posted:

Is this still true? Which mods do / don't work with BG1/2, which ones are no longer necessary with the new extended versions, any mods that are specific to these versions?

Comstar posted:

Has the Ironmadman thread been posted yet?

Skwirl posted:

The Pillars of Eternity thread is full of beta players impressions. Make sure to read the latest ones, because it's gone through several builds.

Dyna Soar posted:

i read like, 10 pages back and it was mostly just in depth analysis of different skills and game mechanics in general. I'm more interested if it's actually shaping up to be a worthy successor to the IE games, like what Obsidian said they'll strive for.

kujeger posted:

It is! It is a beta with its bugs, but it is shaping up to be a really good game in the IE mold.

kujeger posted:

Although some are complaining that since everything does not play the exact same way, Obsidian and ropekid are the devil incarnate.

Dyna Soar posted:

nice to hear. i'll be hopefully getting a computer that can run it soon, so looks like I'm back to being a gamer again.


I don't know what this means.

Orgophlax posted:

Obsidian is the developer, and ropekid is Josh Sawyer, a long time goon, who is lead(?) designer on PoE. And people are complaining because I'm guessing some mechanics are slightly different than in original IE games.

Dyna Soar posted:

oh. well, IE games are definitely not perfect, far from it in fact. Sawyer was project lead on IWD2, wasn't he?

Factor_VIII posted:

Inspired by Neera's quote about the PC turning against his heritage by going around the contryside murdering everything he came across, I tried to do a BG solo pacifist run with Lawniel, the Neutral Good Gnome Illusionist/Thief. I avoided side-quests that involved killing things (i.e. most of them) and generally didn't go to areas I didn't have to (except to collect all of the stat-boosting tomes).

I used Stealth, Invisibility or just running away to deal with enemies. Mulahey has to die for the plot to progress, so I used Charm Person on him which led to him being killed by his own kobolds. I joined with the bandits at Pedvale, then went into the camp without fighting anyone. I stealthed into the main tent, stole everything from the chest there and fled after drinking an invisibility potion without anyone there dying. I then used stealth and invisibility to get through the Cloakwood forest and mines. Davaeorn also has to die, so I used Algernon's Cloak to charm him (as he was immune to Charm Person), at which point he was killed by his two Battle Horrors. In the city of Baldur's Gate I did the various thieving (and retrieving the child's body) subquests since these don't require you to kill anyone. I avoided the poisoning subquest by not going to the lower northeast region of Baldur's Gate (but stole the tome of wisdom from the priest to use it). To go to Candlekeep, I went invisibly up the Iron Throne tower and stole the documents at the back of the top floor without fighting anyone. Once there I allowed myself to be framed and invisibly escaped the catacombs. I saved Duke Eltan by invisibly entering the Flaming Fist, talking to him to pick him up, then invisibly escaping. I used Algernon's Cloak to charm the assassin Slythe and pickpocketed the palace invitations and incriminating documents from him (I avoided the Iron Throne tower since you don't need Sarevok's diary to complete the game). At the palace I summoned a bunch of monsters as cannon fodder and used a Wand of Paralyzation on all the nobles that turn into dopplegangers but one. Once the fight started the troops quickly killed that one and then the other ones also died pretty fast as they were busy killing my summons and I kept hitting them with my Wand of Paralyzation. Liia also quickly died, but Belt survived. I confirmed that my summons didn't kill anything by checking that I hadn't earned any XP from the fight. I finally used Invisibility to sneak into Sarevok's temple. I repeatedly failed to charm Sarevok, so I ended up using a scroll of Protection from Magic, luring him to the central area of the temple where all the traps are, drinking an invisibility potion and then running around him to repeatedly set off the Skull Trap spell trap found there. That took him out without crediting me with his death.

Here are the final screenshots after Sarevok's death:

Factor_VIII posted:

Factor_VIII posted:

Dyna Soar posted:

heh, p. cool. do the same for bg2?

Dyna Soar posted:

how long did that take btw?

Smol posted:

Maybe you can use summoned demons to kill required enemies like Irenicus in BG2? Not sure if that counts as a kill.

Factor_VIII posted:

I don't think gated demons count for kills. For that matter, I actually think that shapechanging into an Illithid and Int-draining an enemy to death also doesn't count as a kill, but it would rather be against the spirit of the thing. Petrification or polymorph shouldn't count though. I might use those spells.

PS: I finished with Irenicus' dungeon. The Mephit Portals in the second level need to be destroyed before the doors in that room can be unlocked, so I had to use Dire Charm and get the mephits there to destroy their own portals. Otherwise I escaped without other creatures dying, with the exception of Illych who I charmed in order to pickpocket the dryad's acorns but who was then killed by his own followers.

amanasleep posted:

I'm pretty certain that a Jester is a pretty effective way to avoid kills in both games.

amanasleep posted:

I'm pretty certain that a Jester is a pretty effective way to avoid kills in both games.

FairGame posted:

Ironman shadow dancer is dead. Thanks to the immunity to cold girdle Gorion drops, I just bring my main to face winter wolves. But in this instance I forgot I'd taken it off so I could face a squad of kobold commandos on an earlier map.

I remembered only a second too late.

I have no idea what to play now.

Pwnstar posted:

I really wish the Ring of Wizardry from BG1 was in BG2. Imagine all those level 9 spells you could cast as a Wild Mage.

Skwirl posted:

Wild Mages are hilariously broken once you get somewhere in the double digits of levels, and are slightly broken the rest of the time if you save and reload at a reasonable pace (starts of dungeons, before and after major battles). Something people overlook is that you add the character level to your wild surge roll and the good surges tend to be on the higher end of the chart. At the top it's mostly "Spell works normally and some other good thing happens" or "'Spell does double whatever it would normally do" type things.

Smol posted:

Pretty sure that avoiding enemies won't be a big problem, even in BG2. The real problem is killing NPCs that the plot requires you to kill... without actually killing them yourself. While things like traps, charm spells or gated demons will surely be a big help, it's not really clear if that's enough to kill say Irenicus in his Hell form.

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kujeger posted:

I decided last week that I really needed to play through IWD2, it being the only IE game I had never finished yet.

I'm near the end now (just started chapter 6, killed the Lost Followers), and decided to look up the stats of my guys.



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