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Equeen: Oct 29, 2011; Pole dance~

sweeperbravo posted:

They legit see no problem with child pornography. They will at the same time say that whatever this poo poo is, it's somehow not sexual, and yet at the same time insist that there's no problem with child pornography. They sincerely are lacking whatever element it is in the human brain that says "whacking to pics of exploited kids is loving messed up."

No you see, it's not really child pornography, all of the kids are DRAWN and therefore :barf:

# ? Jan 3, 2015 23:13

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# ? May 23, 2024 09:21

Howard Beale: Feb 22, 2001; It's like this, Peanut

Equeen posted:

No you see, it's not really child pornography, all of the kids are DRAWN and therefore

don't forget to cut and paste the wikipedia definition of epbehhepebophilia because clearly that makes it ALL OKAY

# ? Jan 4, 2015 00:19

sweeperbravo: May 18, 2012; AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

Howard Beale posted:

don't forget to cut and paste the wikipedia definition of epbehhepebophilia because clearly that makes it ALL OKAY

I think the level of reasonableness of making that distinction is summed up by the fact that that word looks like someone flapping their finger over their lips and making a "b-b-b-b-b-b" noise

# ? Jan 4, 2015 00:31

BlueDude: Aug 7, 2014

From the description for "Balloon Belly":

Some sick gently caress posted:

There is also a fetish for that and many Youtube videos exploit it.

Need I remind you of the Family Friendliness policy?

(Also, I had to omit two YouTube links in that one run-on sentence. Thanks for that, tropers!)

# ? Jan 4, 2015 03:53

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

I'm reminded of a recently-deleted entry on a character page for a kids' adventure show called Hunter X Hunter, which was gushing about the twelve-year-old hero's legs. :stonklol:

# ? Jan 4, 2015 04:00

LaughMyselfTo: Nov 15, 2012; by XyloJW

Equeen posted:

No you see, it's not really child pornography, all of the kids are DRAWN and therefore

I would say this is significant. Not in judging the moral depravity of the consumers and producers, but in judging how distraught we should feel.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 06:09

The Time Dissolver: Nov 7, 2012; Are you a good person?

LaughMyselfTo posted:

I would say this is significant. Not in judging the moral depravity of the consumers and producers, but in judging how distraught we should feel.

oh boy

# ? Jan 4, 2015 06:30

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

He's not saying that drawn child porn is good; he's saying that [MY FINGERS REFUSE TO TYPE THE PHRASE] is worse. Either way, you have a beast that wants monstrous things, but in the second case that want has already been fulfilled somewhere.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 06:38

InediblePenguin: Sep 27, 2004; I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

even bothering to bring that up is basically like going "well look i know rolling around in ten gallons of poo poo is a bad thing to do but it is not as bad as eating ten gallons of poo poo"

# ? Jan 4, 2015 07:20

InediblePenguin: Sep 27, 2004; I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

don't roll around in poo poo
don't defend child porn

i can't believe people need to be told "don't defend child porn" tho
what the hell pal

# ? Jan 4, 2015 07:21

The Time Dissolver: Nov 7, 2012; Are you a good person?

InediblePenguin posted:

even bothering to bring that up is basically like going "well look i know rolling around in ten gallons of poo poo is a bad thing to do but it is not as bad as eating ten gallons of poo poo"

both those things are hot af though

# ? Jan 4, 2015 07:24

LaughMyselfTo: Nov 15, 2012; by XyloJW

It's like, trying to kill someone is wrong, but you can't say that it doesn't matter whether or not the attempt fails. It doesn't matter in terms of how evil the murderer or would-be-murderer is and how badly they need to be punished. But it sure as gently caress matters to the victim who does or doesn't wind up dead.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 07:34

corn in the bible: Jun 5, 2004; Oh no oh god it's all true!

basically japanese culture is a cancer

# ? Jan 4, 2015 07:36

Annointed: Mar 2, 2013

I think one argument I keep hearing is always going to disturb me.

"You see it's okay because they prefer 2D girls over"fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck I can't type this without feeling like my skin is going to tear itself from my flesh.

My response always was, " :stare:

the hell did I just read? Why would you say something like this anywhere?"

# ? Jan 4, 2015 07:40

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

LaughMyselfTo posted:

It's like, trying to kill someone is wrong, but you can't say that it doesn't matter whether or not the attempt fails. It doesn't matter in terms of how evil the murderer or would-be-murderer is and how badly they need to be punished. But it sure as gently caress matters to the victim who does or doesn't wind up dead.

Bringing up how drawn child porn is better than actual child porn can be seen as defending drawn child porn, especially when it's unprompted.

"Oh yeah, we shouldn't be too distraught about these child porn drawings"

# ? Jan 4, 2015 08:04

Nintendo Kid: Aug 4, 2011; by Smythe

I just want to reiterate that several TV Tropes posters got caught with actual child porn in the past.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 08:06

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

A person sexually attracted to late-adolescent minors. Not to be confused with (and it invariably will be) a pedophile, who is attracted to prepubescent minors (or hebephile, who is attracted to early adolescent minors). Partly this is because pedophiles like to use this term to defend themselves by deliberately blurring the lines between discussion of pedophilia and issues relating to age of consent (see also Lolicon/Shotacon).

Very controversial, unsurprisingly, especially when it involves adults and teenagers (teenagers running into age of consent issues in relationships with other teens is a different issue). It should be noted that the term Ephebophilia refers to a preference for late adolescents, so attraction alone does not necessarily make a person an ephebophile. Many people will admit attraction to a teenager or two without acting on it or making a whole lifestyle out of it.

Just a friendly reminder that this page still exists.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 08:11

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

oh hell no :gonk:

# ? Jan 4, 2015 08:13

Nintendo Kid: Aug 4, 2011; by Smythe

Sham bam bamina! posted:

A person sexually attracted to late-adolescent minors. Not to be confused with (and it invariably will be) a pedophile, who is attracted to prepubescent minors (or hebephile, who is attracted to early adolescent minors). Partly this is because pedophiles like to use this term to defend themselves by deliberately blurring the lines between discussion of pedophilia and issues relating to age of consent (see also Lolicon/Shotacon).

Very controversial, unsurprisingly, especially when it involves adults and teenagers (teenagers running into age of consent issues in relationships with other teens is a different issue). It should be noted that the term Ephebophilia refers to a preference for late adolescents, so attraction alone does not necessarily make a person an ephebophile. Many people will admit attraction to a teenager or two without acting on it or making a whole lifestyle out of it.

Just a friendly reminder that this page still exists.

Actual definition:
Ephebophile (n.) - a person that could spend their lives being perfectly fine having sex with people who can consent unquestionably, but deliberately decides to gently caress children instead. And generally wants you to congratulate them for not loving literal babies.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 08:15

Annointed: Mar 2, 2013

Sham bam bamina! posted:

oh hell no

There is literally no merit to this trope. Nothing at all. If you like this you're a sick gently caress who needs to head to the loony bin. If you wanted this for posterity again you're a sick gently caress who wants more spank material. There's no theme other than another horrific thing you shouldn't bring up. In fiction most likely the writer is a terrible person who really needs to go outside and probably can't even write all that well.

Hell I remember one particular one that I gleamed from it. Gamble Fish. Yeah, that sure is useful tropers, I certainly became a better writer for knowing a child prostitute wants to turn an entire school into a sex ring.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 08:41

Sober: Nov 19, 2011; First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.

Annointed posted:

There is literally no merit to this trope. Nothing at all. If you like this you're a sick gently caress who needs to head to the loony bin. If you wanted this for posterity again you're a sick gently caress who wants more spank material. There's no theme other than another horrific thing you shouldn't bring up. In fiction most likely the writer is a terrible person who really needs to go outside and probably can't even write all that well.

Hell I remember one particular one that I gleamed from it. Gamble Fish. Yeah, that sure is useful tropers, I certainly became a better writer for knowing a child prostitute wants to turn an entire school into a sex ring.

Well there is the perfunctory "possibly were victims of childhood sexual abuse" at the head of the page but I haven't actually seen most of the stuff on that list to make a proper judgement about whether or not a good portion of them actually try to examine such aforementioned situation (and whether or not with enough gravity is another matter) or it's just ... use it as an excuse to sexualize young girls by making them "dangereux" for the lack of a better term. It's not that there's no merit to the trope (although honestly you could just fold it into a variation of jailbait proper if anything considering TVT's population), it's that I don't know if there's any merit to the trope besides cataloging it for the cataloging's sake.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 09:29

Harime Nui: Apr 15, 2008; The New Insincerity

Allow me to interject: anime, is good.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 09:31

Testekill: Nov 1, 2012; I demand to be taken seriously

Harime Nui posted:

Allow me to interject: anime, is good.

Only good anime are Jojo and Cromartie High School.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 09:37

Harime Nui: Apr 15, 2008; The New Insincerity

Anime is a rich constellation of wonders, friend. :mrgw:

# ? Jan 4, 2015 09:41

RottenK: Feb 17, 2011; Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE

anime is good, tropers are degenerate subhumans

the simple truths of life

RottenK fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Jan 4, 2015

# ? Jan 4, 2015 11:16

Tiberius Thyben: Feb 7, 2013; Gone Phishing

RottenK posted:

anime is good, tropers are degenerate subhumans

the simple truths of life

You mean "anime is good for revealing that tropers are degenerate subhumans".

# ? Jan 4, 2015 11:33

Afraid of Audio: Oct 12, 2012; by exmarx

Harime Nui posted:

Allow me to interject: anime, is good.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 13:05

Liquid Dinosaur: Dec 16, 2011; by Smythe

Nintendo Kid posted:

Actual definition:
Ephebophile (n.) - a person that could spend their lives being perfectly fine having sex with people who can consent unquestionably, but deliberately decides to gently caress children instead. And generally wants you to congratulate them for not loving literal babies.

Ephebophile (n.) - A pedophile with a thesaurus.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 16:25

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

Sham bam bamina! posted:

oh hell no

quote:

Dot from Animaniacs knows exactly how to use her cute looks and overly big eyes to get people to do what she wants.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 16:46

LaughMyselfTo: Nov 15, 2012; by XyloJW

Liquid Dinosaur posted:

Ephebophile (n.) - A pedophile with a thesaurus.

Not to be confused with Barney The Dinosaur, a pedosaurus.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 16:49

Screaming Idiot: Nov 26, 2007; JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Harime Nui posted:

Allow me to interject: anime, is good.

why yes, anime is blood

*bends syringe w/finger*

# ? Jan 4, 2015 16:59

change my name: Aug 27, 2007; Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

Liquid Dinosaur posted:

Ephebophile (n.) - A pedophile with a thesaurus.

I thought that was the definition of tvtroper.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 17:03

BlueDude: Aug 7, 2014

While we're discussing creeps: you wouldn't think "Ash Face" would be anything but excessively spergy, but then you see the Fan Works folder...

Somebody posted:

In DaydreamDragon371's art story Selfdestruct, the character finds a shiny Graveler and wants to catch it, but it uses selfdestruct, leaving her and her Beedrill blackened with ash.
In the mini comic Art explosion, Soriku's friend puts a stick of dynamite in her ear, which proceeds to explode and cover her in soot.
In a League of Legends comic, Lux is about to fire her Ult to steal Golem, but Leona gets in her way to show her the new shine on her shield. The attack reflects off of her shield and leaves Lux burnt to a crisp.
One comic features Ahri getting grabbed by Blitzcrank and fried by the turret.
Leona does this to Lux and Sona when they are going to the beach. They thought that it was just a sunny and hot day, but really it was Leona's solar flare.
In a comic featuring Paula from Earthbound, she is dressed in her swimsuit ready to go to the beach. When she goes to teleport, she fails and the psychic energy explodes, leaving her charred.
Happens to Rikku when she hugs Gotenk's ghost.
In an animated artwork from ambersonic96, the character Amber is shown burnt to a crisp from the aftermath of a firework exploding on her.
In a artwork by starsnow2577, the character Starsnow is seen completely covered in soot from making a go-kart accidentally explode.
Happens to Yume and Hazura when they go to give each other "the ultimate high five" and end up causing a massive explosion, leaving them both charred black and wanting to do it again.
In a comic about Dawn from Pokemon, she is shown trying to catch an electrode but it self-destructs before she can, resulting in the charring and shredding of her and her clothes.
Misty is left burnt to a crisp when Ash decides he would help her tan by having Charizard flamethrower her.
Character Lizzy by LizzyRose1 has this happen to her when she blew herself up with a firecracker.
When Lizzy wakes up from a nap saying she could use a jolt of energy, her Pikachu takes it literally and shocks her.
Happens to Lizzy when she has her Growlithe practice using flamethrower, but it uses her as a target.

(Omitted - about one deviantART link per line. :gonk:

)

The best part is that there's already a fanfic folder there. (It's just a Calvin and Hobbes: The Series example, which is merely spergy and not outright creepy.)

# ? Jan 4, 2015 17:50

bucketmouse: Aug 16, 2004; we con-trol the ho-ri-zon-tal
we con-trol the verrr-ti-cal

Annointed posted:

There is literally no merit to this trope. Nothing at all.

Assuming there's a list there it's a good index of authors/media to avoid. But it's tvtropes so it's probably going to be examples, and half of them are going to be Humbert Humbert readings of cartoon characters like that animaniacs one. :suicide:

# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:42

Harime Nui: Apr 15, 2008; The New Insincerity

Afraid of Audio posted:

no

Ah but, it is.

# ? Jan 4, 2015 20:44

Testekill: Nov 1, 2012; I demand to be taken seriously

Harime Nui posted:

Anime is a rich constellation of wonders, friend.

I disagree.

# ? Jan 5, 2015 05:58

Harime Nui: Apr 15, 2008; The New Insincerity

Testekill posted:

I disagree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwRlvn1v8Ns

# ? Jan 5, 2015 06:00

Babysitter Super Sleuth: Apr 26, 2012; my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Testekill posted:

I disagree.

Perhaps the same could be said of all religions

# ? Jan 5, 2015 18:23

Screaming Idiot: Nov 26, 2007; JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

mr. stefan posted:

Perhaps the same could be said of all religions

but enough talk

seriously but enough talk close the thread CLOSE IT FOREVER

# ? Jan 5, 2015 18:45

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# ? May 23, 2024 09:21

Harime Nui: Apr 15, 2008; The New Insincerity

I actually went trawling Writer's Block last night looking for something to poast and it was just poo poo, just poo poo, it was just insanely dull, sorry folks.

# ? Jan 5, 2015 23:35

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