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Suggestion in the papers today that prince andrew might have immunity from prosecution owing to a deal made in a previous case of a global paedo ring that he was implicated in. Lmao.
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Oberleutnant posted:Suggestion in the papers today that prince andrew might have immunity from prosecution owing to a deal made in a previous case of a global paedo ring that he was implicated in. Lmao. Guavanaut posted:"I am incredibly wealthy and/or a member of the aristocracy" seems to work a depressing amount of time in the British system. QED. Did anyone think an actual member of the royal family was going to get slung in with the nonces?
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Jan 5, 2015 10:17
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Jedit posted:By "for years" you mean "since 18-loving-97", I hope. And that's just when it became obvious there was no way to win a war in Afghanistan; Kipling was pointing out how loving dumb it was almost ten years before that. Well, you had the Times of all places calling out the Afghan incursions for their failures in 1843/44. No need to go to Kipling when even Doyle was calling out the Afghan wars.
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Jan 5, 2015 10:28
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Hansard, House of Lords, 19 March 1839 (link):The Earl of Aberdeen posted:With respect to the other part, the affairs of Affghanistan, the question was very different, for we were at war there, and had been since the month of October; and it did not seem to be very unreasonable that their Lordships should know what we were fighting about and the causes that had brought us into this condition [...] no man could say, unless it were subsequently explained, this course were not as rash and impolitic, as it was ill-considered, oppressive, and unjust.
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Jan 5, 2015 13:40
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Have we reached peak Ched Evans yet?
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Jan 5, 2015 13:42
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tentish klown posted:Have we reached peak Ched Evans yet? Na, it'll probably keep coming around until he either gets hired by a club who don't give a poo poo or reoffends. Also, wrong forum.
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Jan 5, 2015 13:51
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Umiapik posted:I've noticed a strange inverse relationship between the declining effectiveness of our armed forces and the ever-increasing official hero worship of them. It's like people know, really, that they performed very poorly indeed in Iraq and Afghanistan but our national prestige is so wrapped up in the British military being "the best in the world!" that it's too painful to face the facts. That's why the situation in those countries tended to be reported through the lens of: "look at the heroic deeds that this individual soldier performed! Doesn't it make your heart swell with pride!" It allowed us to avoid focusing on the fact that the wider strategic situation had gone to poo poo and we weren't actually achieving any of our objectives. I figured the problem wasn't that the armed forces were bad at their jobs, it's that their jobs were poorly defined and entirely unsuitable for soldiers. If you want people to kill poo poo the Army is still pretty good at that, but asking them to fix the political and economic mess caused by an invasion seems a bit unrealistic. I mean historically we've solved that sort of thing by just killing more people until they stop resisting/kick us out of the country, or co-opting the existing power structure to serve the Empire, but that's not polite nowadays. I don't think anyone's come up with a good solution to it other than not invading places for bloody stupid reasons. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Jan 5, 2015 |
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Jan 5, 2015 14:16
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Does anyone know where I can get a breakdown of what makes up 'social protection' in the budget? It breaks it down by department later in the document but not by type.
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Jan 5, 2015 14:43
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Devon farmer forced to offload aggressive Nazi-bred ‘super cows’ Is this a Viz headline? 
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mfcrocker posted:Na, it'll probably keep coming around until he either gets hired by a club who don't give a poo poo or reoffends. It's a cheap and easy story generator with guaranteed page clicks, and you get two bites of the cherry when the twitter-mob hits change.org CHED EVANS LINKED TO ___________________ PETITION AGAINST CHED EVANS MOVE TO _____________________ SPONSOR THREATENS TO LEAVE ________________ PETITION AGAINST CHED EVANS MOVE TO __________________ NOW BIGGEST/FASTEST GROWING EVER _____________________ DENY PLAN TO BUY CHED EVANS CHED EVANS LINKED TO _________________________________
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Jan 5, 2015 15:02
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The MoJ clarification was quite funny in a "this whole thing was never news" way.
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Jan 5, 2015 15:10
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Umiapik posted:I've noticed a strange inverse relationship between the declining effectiveness of our armed forces and the ever-increasing official hero worship of them. It's like people know, really, that they performed very poorly indeed in Iraq and Afghanistan but our national prestige is so wrapped up in the British military being "the best in the world!" that it's too painful to face the facts. That's why the situation in those countries tended to be reported through the lens of: "look at the heroic deeds that this individual soldier performed! Doesn't it make your heart swell with pride!" It allowed us to avoid focusing on the fact that the wider strategic situation had gone to poo poo and we weren't actually achieving any of our objectives.
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Jan 5, 2015 15:11
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Oberleutnant posted:Devon farmer forced to offload aggressive Nazi-bred ‘super cows’ This rules. I was just reading about the German auroch breeding experiments like half an hour ago.
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Jan 5, 2015 15:14
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quote:Presenting the Lib Dems as the occupants of the centre ground, [Clegg] will say Conservatives are like mobile phone salesmen who signed you up to a contract then cut the number of calls you could make, while Labour is like an ex-boyfriend leaving late-night voicemails asking for one more chance. I can just imagine a speech writer sitting at Lib Dem party HQ rubbing his dick through his trouser pocket as he thought up this incredibly clever analogy. e: also howdo the Lib Dems fit into the analogy? Are they the swanky new mobile phone which you bought from the tories, but which only has a 90 minute battery life?
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Jan 5, 2015 15:20
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They're the fresh new phone plan that fits around your life, promising unlimited free minutes every year, but then you rack up a bill of £9000 somehow
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Jan 5, 2015 15:26
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Total Meatlove posted:It's a cheap and easy story generator with guaranteed page clicks, and you get two bites of the cherry when the twitter-mob hits change.org Oldham's sponsors threatening to leave over this are a bit rich considering they employed Lee Hughes after he got out.
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Jan 5, 2015 15:35
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serious gaylord posted:Oldham's sponsors threatening to leave over this are a bit rich considering they employed Lee Hughes after he got out. Nobody had a good enought twitter campaign; You need something like; "We believe that [he] does not have [the right] to be in a role where he influences views about drink driving, and his presence on [the] pitch will do this." That way nobody can argue because how the gently caress do you prove that.
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Jan 5, 2015 15:43
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Total Meatlove posted:Nobody had a good enought twitter campaign; Evans hasn't shown any contrition though, and the really nasty campaign waged by his friends against the girl he raped is pretty much the opposite of that. There's a really important difference there, IMO.
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Jan 5, 2015 15:50
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Evans hasn't shown any contrition though, and the really nasty campaign waged by his friends against the girl he raped is pretty much the opposite of that. There's a really important difference there, IMO. He gets released from prison for raping a girl and makes an internet apology for cheating on his girlfriend. You can hardly do that and claim "rehabilitated"; as far as the law is concerned he's guilty, as far as he is concerned what he did was ok (bar the cheating). There's a very big distinction that nobody in TRP seemed to give a gently caress about because there were cuckold jokes to be made.
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Jan 5, 2015 16:05
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serious gaylord posted:Oldham's sponsors threatening to leave over this are a bit rich considering they employed Lee Hughes after he got out. Even if Lee Hughes had done the exact same thing I'd be glad they were doing better this time
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Jan 5, 2015 16:06
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Oberleutnant posted:Devon farmer forced to offload aggressive Nazi-bred ‘super cows’ The idea behind these animals is so bizarre. In the 1920s a couple of German zoo keepers wanted to breed cattle that superficially resembled an extinct species, did a pretty bad job of it, and now the descendants of this recently created crossbreed are apparently being treated as an important target for conservation as if they were actual aurochs. It's like if you bred turkeys without feathers and opened up your very own Jurassic Park featuring your newly created velociraptors.
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Jan 5, 2015 16:36
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Caroline Lucas is arguing for railway renationalisation. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/02/fare-rises-british-railways-should-be-renationalised-caroline-lucas quote:It’s the first week of January, so it’s time for that painful annual ritual – the introduction of yet more rail fare rises. No wonder rail passengers have had enough. Fares are increasing much faster than wages, with regulated ticket prices having risen by more than 20% since 2010. Also, household debt dropped from 175% of income after the crash to around 130% so yay, we're less poor!
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Spangly A posted:There's a very big distinction that nobody in TRP seemed to give a gently caress about because there were cuckold jokes to be made. Cuckoldham Athletic
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Jan 5, 2015 17:03
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LemonDrizzle posted:Caroline Lucas is arguing for railway renationalisation. Well, I think that seals it. I'll be swallowing my misgivings over their stance on some scientific issues and voting Green (I was anyway).
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Jan 5, 2015 17:27
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Seeing as he is an unrepentant rapist as well as an unsocialised criminal does that mean that he can never be accepted back into civilisation? For example if he applies for a job as a builders mate should that be denied to him? Or are we saying that being a footballer is too privileged a position for him?
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notaspy posted:Seeing as he is an unrepentant rapist as well as an unsocialised criminal does that mean that he can never be accepted back into civilisation? Guys I think this question is loaded.
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notaspy posted:Seeing as he is an unrepentant rapist as well as an unsocialised criminal does that mean that he can never be accepted back into civilisation? Well it's hardly like rapists on tv has gone done well in the last two years
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quote:Closer to home, the recent experience of the East Coast Mainline tells its own story. In the five years it was run by the public sector, it returned almost £1bn to the taxpayer, as well as increasing passenger numbers, introducing a new timetable, improving punctuality and establishing industry-leading approaches to recycling and reducing carbon emissions. No no no no loving no. gently caress off with this poo poo, stop using East Coast as a catch all for nationalisation. Yes they did a lot of good poo poo, but they are not the model for a modern nationalised railway network. We need integration between train operator and infrastructure controller again, absolute destruction of the concept of delay minute attribution and joined up thinking regarding delivery of railway operations, with an eye towards management of engineering works. I wish I could sit down with people like Lucas (who I like) and explain how to make the industry work better. Clue: it would involve going back to a BR type sector approach because that was the best the railway in this country has ever been run.
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Jan 5, 2015 17:39
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 I love our aristocracy. The view from my office window not 40 mintues ago. These bourgie fucks were wheeling around like retards, blasting at pheasant or grouse or whatever in all directions, while enclosed on three sides by the building, with most of the offices and the residence having windows overlooking them. Cunts.
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Oberleutnant posted:
Where the gently caress do you work where this is A Thing?
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Oberleutnant posted:
Thats an eerrrrr - strange place to have a shoot.
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Disinterested posted:Where the gently caress do you work where this is A Thing? a castle, still inhabited
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Can somebody shed a light on whether the "British Rail was poo poo when it was nationalised" stuff holds any water at all? Like, where are we on passenger satisfaction, and on late running trains etc? Is there an easy "gently caress you" style post I can use to reply to any free-market idiots on Facebook?
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Oberleutnant posted:
TBH shotguns used for hunting game aren't going to be much more than an inconvenience beyond about 50 metres. Still loving boneheaded but they're unlikely even to break a window let alone endanger anyone's lives.
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thehustler posted:Can somebody shed a light on whether the "British Rail was poo poo when it was nationalised" stuff holds any water at all? It was slow and cheapish. Now it's slightly less slow and loving expensive.
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thehustler posted:Can somebody shed a light on whether the "British Rail was poo poo when it was nationalised" stuff holds any water at all? It was pretty crap in a lot of ways, but still better than any of the privatised railways on any meaningful measure - including the amount of subsidy received from the state.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It was pretty crap in a lot of ways, but still better than any of the privatised railways on any meaningful measure - including the amount of subsidy received from the state. I know, and I do tell people that, but that seems to be one of the things they don't care about, going in for passenger satisfaction and punctuality instead.
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Jan 5, 2015 17:56
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Oberleutnant posted:Uh.... okay Nicholas. Presumably they are the small startup phone company that spontaneously offloads your contract to the conservatives about two weeks after you bought it.
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Oberleutnant posted:a castle, still inhabited pretty sure this counts as a siege. if they try it again then break out the longbows and start firing back
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Don't really have any longbows up here. There's a bison skull (was here before me) above my desk I could drop out the window, maybe
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