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Flaming Cliffs 3 is around, which is the closet to what you're talking about. But yea. Novalogic pumped out a ton of those semi-hardcore sims. They were great.
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B4Ctom1 posted:They won't loving stop building M1's, preferring to park them in rows in the desert. I agree, give them something useful like an M1 chassis APC to build. Put a Bushy on top of it for good measure. You could probably build a pretty badass urban warfare turret for the M1 ala the Russian BMPT. Couple autocannons, a RWS with a .50 and Mk19, maybe a few recoil-less rifles on the side of the turret for fun poo poo like canister rounds.
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Back Hack posted:The new AMPV is a Bradley The ones I saw did not have that thick tiled reactive armor (or whatever that is on the vehicles I looked up). Just a maybe 1"+ superfluous plate with a million rivets or bolts holding it on.
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B4Ctom1 posted:The ones I saw did not have that thick tiled reactive armor (or whatever that is on the vehicles I looked up). It's pretty likely you saw either them or the 109A7 hulls without all that ERA poo poo, which makes sense while in transport. Either that or 113A3s which look similar enough at a glance. If your confused about the BAE part, it's only that BAE is the parent company now, they bought whoever made the Bradley's originally, just like how General Dynamics makes the Abrams when it was originally a Crysler Defense tank IIRC.
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Don't the MRAPs also put a good deal of stress on the roads themselves?
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Polikarpov posted:You could probably build a pretty badass urban warfare turret for the M1 ala the Russian BMPT. Couple autocannons, a RWS with a .50 and Mk19, maybe a few recoil-less rifles on the side of the turret for fun poo poo like canister rounds. Do they make a quad mount .50BMG gatling gun? Because they should.  E: We will have a bunch of surplus GAU-8s once we retire the A-10, that would be an acceptable alternative.
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Polikarpov posted:You could probably build a pretty badass urban warfare turret for the M1 ala the Russian BMPT. Couple autocannons, a RWS with a .50 and Mk19, maybe a few recoil-less rifles on the side of the turret for fun poo poo like canister rounds. bitcoin bastard posted:Do they make a quad mount .50BMG gatling gun? Because they should. Sractch all of that, and just drop in the 76mm Super Rapid like the Otomatic. The GAU-8 is a good alternative but that fucker is big, then again the Goalkeeper already exists soooo http://youtu.be/RCd_X7lh_AQ Mazz fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jan 5, 2015 |
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bewbies posted:The army kept around 30% vehicles it bought with MRAP money fully active and put half of them in storage, only the remaining ~20% were disposed of or given to civilian law enforcement. I don't know what the USMC did. That's not so bad really. I figured it was worse when I saw the Orange County Sherrif's with one, that thing was scary as gently caress to drive next to. Then again, Newburgh... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L-Ipgl4ixc
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bitcoin bastard posted:Do they make a quad mount .50BMG gatling gun? Because they should. Funny you mention that, the GAU-19 just came out.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtBhA8QPArE http://youtu.be/X1VMHQzwDwc Back Hack fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jan 5, 2015 |
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Thomamelas posted:Don't the MRAPs also put a good deal of stress on the roads themselves? This would be one of the reasons why a non-zero portion of the MRAPs we bought for Iraq were way less than optimal for use in Afghanistan. Also why the Army tried MRAPs in Korea for about 2 minutes and then said nooooooooooope.
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Hubis posted:Guys I think I know what to do with all those perfectly good A-10s we are just going to waste http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-a-10-warthog-will-soon-be-chasing-tornados-attack-1613591600
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Damnit, I'm trying to find a video I saw a while back. It was a montage of older ('60s - early '80s) Soviet military hardware (mostly planes and stuff) but it was set to this really catchy music. I remember it was like 10 or 15 minutes long. Anyone know which video I'm talking about? I know that's incredibly vague 
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Polikarpov posted:You could probably build a pretty badass urban warfare turret for the M1 ala the Russian BMPT. Couple autocannons, a RWS with a .50 and Mk19, maybe a few recoil-less rifles on the side of the turret for fun poo poo like canister rounds. Until the Air Force comes along and lights your rear end up because they can't tell the difference between you and the other side's old Pact gear Mazz posted:It's pretty likely you saw either them or the 109A7 hulls without all that ERA poo poo, which makes sense while in transport. Either that or 113A3s which look similar enough at a glance. If your confused about the BAE part, it's only that BAE is the parent company now, they bought whoever made the Bradley's originally, just like how General Dynamics makes the Abrams when it was originally a Crysler Defense tank IIRC.
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Outside Dawg posted:Until the Air Force comes along and lights your rear end up because they can't tell the difference between you and the other side's old Pact gear What if you put up a sign in 50 different languages saying "Not a tank"?
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Outside Dawg posted:Until the Air Force comes along and lights your rear end up because they can't tell the difference between you and the other side's old Pact gear
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KingPave posted:What if you put up a sign in 50 different languages saying "Not a tank"? Nah man just put a big Canadian Flag on i- oh wait 
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KingPave posted:What if you put up a sign in 50 different languages saying "Not a tank"? also missile hats should be a thing
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movax posted:If police departments were dipshit-free / competently run, I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it, but we all know that isn't the case. I can see LAPD, NYPD and other large police departments getting them, I'm mildly terrified when some tiny as gently caress town in Texas gets them to play with. there are plenty of rural areas with long flat sections and quarter mile long drive ways that would make having an armored vehicle useful. I can think of at least 5 instances in my bumfuck rural area in the last few years that we had people who made threats with a gun and lived on an acreage that it would have been nice to have somethin other than a crown vic or going on foot to the house. And come on NYPD and LAPD are about the most corrupt police departments in the nation, why do they get free army toys.
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Back Hack posted:Funny you mention that, the GAU-19 just came out. At 2000 RPM that makes a three second burst cost approximately $300 on today's ammo market
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Branis posted:there are plenty of rural areas with long flat sections and quarter mile long drive ways that would make having an armored vehicle useful. I can think of at least 5 instances in my bumfuck rural area in the last few years that we had people who made threats with a gun and lived on an acreage that it would have been nice to have somethin other than a crown vic or going on foot to the house. In how many of those were, you know, an officer injured?
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Branis posted:there are plenty of rural areas with long flat sections and quarter mile long drive ways that would make having an armored vehicle useful. I can think of at least 5 instances in my bumfuck rural area in the last few years that we had people who made threats with a gun and lived on an acreage that it would have been nice to have somethin other than a crown vic or going on foot to the house. And come on NYPD and LAPD are about the most corrupt police departments in the nation, why do they get free army toys. I'm not a cop or anything but this sounds like the perfect time to secure a perimeter and call in the federales like Waco they have tanks and know how to use them
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Jan 6, 2015 16:57
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No but don't you see I am their Delta Force
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VikingSkull posted:I'm not a cop or anything but this sounds like the perfect time to secure a perimeter and call in the federales like Waco Well A-10's are going out of service soon. Seems like the perfect argument for a police handout.
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There is a bear in the water: http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/01/05/led-zeppelin-comes-to-washington-russia-nukes-putin-arms-control/quote:In February 2012, the head of the Russian Navy, Vladimir Vysotsky, indicated that starting around June 1 of that year, Russia would “resume constant patrolling of the world’s oceans by strategic nuclear submarines.” Like everyone else, I thought Vysotsky was referring to Russia’s fleet of massive ballistic missile submarines, known as “boomers.” Then a funny thing happened.
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You guys mentioned some sims yesterday and Gunship 2000 came up. Man I loved that game when I was little. https://archive.org/details/msdos_Gunship_2000_CD-ROM_Edition_1993 Lots more DOS games too: https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos_games/v2
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Crusader posted:There is a bear in the water: http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/01/05/led-zeppelin-comes-to-washington-russia-nukes-putin-arms-control/ Smart, desperate, crazy? A little of all three? I'm not well versed enough to know.
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The fact I could never get Janes USAF to work on anything past Win XP was heartbreaking.
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DrAlexanderTobacco posted:Smart, desperate, crazy? A little of all three? I'm not well versed enough to know. Russian.
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DrAlexanderTobacco posted:Smart, desperate, crazy? A little of all three? I'm not well versed enough to know. Everytime I read about the Russian submarine forces actually doing something I can't help but think "Is this just an advertisement for selling more subs to various Asian countries?"
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Crusader posted:There is a bear in the water: http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/01/05/led-zeppelin-comes-to-washington-russia-nukes-putin-arms-control/ there's a treaty preventing this isn't there
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There could have been if the US hadn't pushed back on it. HEH
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evil_bunnY posted:There could have been if the US hadn't pushed back on it. HEH that's hilarious dust off a shuttle and tell Putin it may or may not be armed  e- oh wait the NSO and CIA already have one of those huh
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VikingSkull posted:there's a treaty preventing this isn't there There's the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, but I don't think that applies to submarine-launched weapons. We're still putting Tomahawks on submarines. Without reading the actual treaty text I couldn't say if the flavor of warhead matters. Plus, as others have said, Russia has been playing fast and loose with the treaty in recent years, because they don't like the ABM site we built in Europe after pulling out of that treaty.
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That Works posted:You guys mentioned some sims yesterday and Gunship 2000 came up. Man I loved that game when I was little. Yeah, I played a ton of Gunship 2K when I was a kid. The Antarctic expansion was kind of bullshit though.
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VikingSkull posted:that's hilarious The Air Force does too, and nobody knows what the gently caress it does for 9 months at a time while In orbit.
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Mazz posted:The Air Force does too, and nobody knows what the gently caress it does for 9 months at a time while In orbit. Yeah, that's what I was talking about There's no way that thing ain't armed lol
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