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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Canuck-Errant posted:

That reminds me of something...

Fair warning, this is 100% NSFW.

Edit: Potentially the most NSFW thing in this thread.

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Goredema
Oct 16, 2013

RUIN EVERYTHING

Fun Shoe

chitoryu12 posted:

Fair warning, this is 100% NSFW.

Edit: Potentially the most NSFW thing in this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28EKdAEMwSc

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Alright so I bought New Vegas in the Steam Holiday sale, and I just got done modding it. I skimmed the thread and I saw some mention of bad weirdness in mods that really should be free of it, like New Vegas Redesigned 3's creepy faces and Mojave Mission's sexism. Are there any other popular mods where that kind of crap crops up unexpectedly? What are the best replacements for what those two mods do? Is Mojave Mission really even necessary?

Raygereio
Nov 12, 2012

Lightning Lord posted:

What are the best replacements for what those two mods do?
Unofficial patch: Yukichigai Unofficial Patch
Improved faces: Fallout New Vegas Redesigned 2 with the lore plugin and none of the optional retextures.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Raygereio posted:

Improved faces: Fallout New Vegas Redesigned 2 with the lore plugin and none of the optional retextures.

What's the concensus on the quality of Fallout Character Overhaul?

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Lightning Lord posted:

Alright so I bought New Vegas in the Steam Holiday sale, and I just got done modding it. I skimmed the thread and I saw some mention of bad weirdness in mods that really should be free of it, like New Vegas Redesigned 3's creepy faces and Mojave Mission's sexism. Are there any other popular mods where that kind of crap crops up unexpectedly? What are the best replacements for what those two mods do? Is Mojave Mission really even necessary?

I think one of the unofficial patches changes a bunch of characters from women to men because "They're trained soldiers".

Honestly the game is pretty good without mods and it's worthwhile to play the first time through without any overhauls or anything like that. Maybe some quality of life mods like the refillable water bottles.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Improbable Lobster posted:

I think one of the unofficial patches changes a bunch of characters from women to men because "They're trained soldiers".

Honestly the game is pretty good without mods and it's worthwhile to play the first time through without any overhauls or anything like that. Maybe some quality of life mods like the refillable water bottles.

That's Mission Mojave, that's the sexism I was talking about.

I've already played New Vegas before, and most of the modding I'm doing is minor stuff like graphical cleanup, combat rebalancing and weather. I was just surprised to learn about the weirdness of Mission Mojave and New Vegas Redesigned 3.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


CASM is always a requirement

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Lightning Lord posted:

What's the concensus on the quality of Fallout Character Overhaul?

I use it over NVR because I don't care if NVR 2 isn't poo poo, that guy is a creepo and it'd bug me. I mean most modders are probably creepos but they don't tell me so I can live in happy ignorance.

What I would suggest is just looking at screenshots of FCO and deciding whether you care or not. For what it's worth, I find face mods to be the least valuable mod when it comes to upgrading the look of New Vegas, but that's just me.

Anyway yeah if you want a face mod, NVR 2 or FCO. I think NVR2 is built off FCO even?

as for other hidden creepy-bombs, I think the lists in the OP are free of that or at least lets you know when you're installing 47 anime hair mods.

Psion fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Jan 4, 2015

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


NVR 3 is based off of FCO, 2 came lone before.

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
A decent face mod is nice since the game zooms in on NPCs during conversations

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Ahundredbux posted:

A decent face mod is nice since the game zooms in on NPCs during conversations

I don't even mind the aesthetic of the vanilla faces. I'm really in the market for a depotatoizer and it seems that FCO fits the bill quite nicely.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Lord Lambeth posted:

NVR 3 is based off of FCO, 2 came lone before.

you sure? I thought the old versions were based on FCO, then Draco had a hissy fit about something, then took them down and reworked them to not be based on FCO, and then :confused:

but I admit I didn't pay super close attention to this whole situation, so I'm probably wrong.

dbzfandiego
Sep 17, 2011
That was an earlier version of NVR3.

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010




Does anyone have a link to a working FOMM? The one in the OP and an updated one that came up on search are both incapable of downloading updates or BOSS lists without CTDing instantly.

Iretep
Nov 10, 2009
Stop using BOSS. Use LOOT. How out of date is the OP oh god. The FOMM on the nexus is the most recent version as far as i'm aware.

DarkMalfunction
Sep 5, 2014

So I bought the game a while ago on the steam stale, was looking through my quest list, and recently realised I'd never done the DLC's (this is third playthrough, though I never finished the first due to the corrupted save gods). My god, these DLC's add so much content!

I haven't brought myself to mod the game just yet, I sort of want to play the hell out of vanilla though. I still need to do a playthrough where I side with the Legion, I've done the independent Vegas, and am currently on the NCR sided playthrough. I am so so glad I discovered this game series, and the OPs have so much useful info (the anti-stutter mod has made my experience so much better!). Just need to finish Fallout 3 as well...

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010




Iretep posted:

Stop using BOSS. Use LOOT. How out of date is the OP oh god. The FOMM on the nexus is the most recent version as far as i'm aware.

Is everything in the OP pretty much defunct then? I'd like some reference as to good mods, after I've played vanilla enough I tend to like overloading the poo poo out of my games.

Iretep
Nov 10, 2009
Most of the mods are still current it seems but the whole LOOT thing should be changed.
I used these to check some mods out:

http://www.reddit.com/r/fnv/comments/zs4o9/a_detailed_list_with_links_for_the_best_mods_for/ - I think this might be a bit out dated, I mostly just used it for recomendations.

http://piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/ro.91p5JbgrShD/rev.4 - Only list I could find thats still being updated. It's from 4chan so be warned.

New Vegas doesen't seem to have any kind of GEMS list like skyrim does sadly so you just have take these kinds of lists.

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
I see the Willow companion being really popular but at first glance she just looks like someone modded in their little fetishdoll for lack of a better word since this is nexus we're talking about.

How far away from the truth am I?

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
With an unfortunate caveat, you're actually not very close to the mark. The person that created Willow did it because they were annoyed by the personality-less, sometimes mute companions created by Nexus users. So he created Willow and now she has unique items and voice acting and a backstory and all kinds of crap that's cool and unusual for your standard Nexus companion mod. People complained about her being too pretty so he added a lore-friendly version which is odd but alright.

Then he added a romance sidequest that ends with Willow doing the sex with you after a striptease and it's like dude come on.

edit: Uh, girl, rather. Then SHE added a romance sidequest that ends with Willow doing the sex with you after a striptease and it's like dude come on.

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jan 4, 2015

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms

CJacobs posted:

With an unfortunate caveat, you're actually not very close to the mark. The person that created Willow did it because they were annoyed by the personality-less, sometimes mute companions created by Nexus users. So he created Willow and now she has unique items and voice acting and a backstory and all kinds of crap that's cool and unusual for your standard Nexus companion mod. People complained about her being too pretty so he added a lore-friendly version which is odd but alright.

Then he added a romance sidequest that ends with Willow doing the sex with you after a striptease and it's like dude come on.

Sounds a lot better than what I imagined, guessing the romance plot is optional so it won't really matter to me.

I'll give it a try

v1ld
Apr 16, 2012

Iretep posted:

Most of the mods are still current it seems but the whole LOOT thing should be changed.
I used these to check some mods out:

http://www.reddit.com/r/fnv/comments/zs4o9/a_detailed_list_with_links_for_the_best_mods_for/ - I think this might be a bit out dated, I mostly just used it for recomendations.

http://piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/ro.91p5JbgrShD/rev.4 - Only list I could find thats still being updated. It's from 4chan so be warned.

New Vegas doesen't seem to have any kind of GEMS list like skyrim does sadly so you just have take these kinds of lists.

There's also a good STEP guide at http://wiki.step-project.com/User:EssArrBee/FalloutNewVegas which is still very actively maintained.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Ahundredbux posted:

Sounds a lot better than what I imagined, guessing the romance plot is optional so it won't really matter to me.

I'll give it a try

I should note that I have not actually played with Willow myself so do not hold me accountable if it does turn out to be terrible, that's just what I've heard/seen about it from people who have used the mod.

edit: i have realized that this post can be taken in two very different ways

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo
One important rule when modding these games (New Vegas, Skyrim) is that all companion and quest mods are utter garbage. Even the best one is worse than the worst quest. So far the only exception to this rule is Nehrim and they made an entire game out of it somehow.

Hobo on Fire
Dec 4, 2008

SolidSnakesBandana posted:

One important rule when modding these games (New Vegas, Skyrim) is that all companion and quest mods are utter garbage. Even the best one is worse than the worst quest. So far the only exception to this rule is Nehrim and they made an entire game out of it somehow.

The Willow mod is actually extremely well done from a technical standpoint, it's the content itself that is questionable. The mod author is also the voice actress, and used good quality equipment to record her lines; she just sounds like a bubbly 16 year old girl. The quests all work properly without serious bugs, but involve things like recovering a lost teddy bear or collecting pencils. Looking at the nexus page, a lot has been added to it since I played it a couple years ago, and while lore friendly and non-nude options are a welcome addition, player homes and extra armors starts to smell of feature creep.

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo
That's like saying that a highly detailed penis model with bump-mapped veins and anti-aliasing on the balls is extremely well done from a technical standpoint.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

SolidSnakesBandana posted:

That's like saying that a highly detailed penis model with bump-mapped veins and anti-aliasing on the balls is extremely well done from a technical standpoint.

Well I mean, that's not an incorrect statement :wink:

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Hobo on Fire posted:

The Willow mod is actually extremely well done from a technical standpoint, it's the content itself that is questionable. The mod author is also the voice actress, and used good quality equipment to record her lines; she just sounds like a bubbly 16 year old girl.

That's totally not what I expected to hear. I guess at least the guy I thought made that isn't out there. After all the feature creep will she announce her new mod with an even younger companion? It's very very weird to start thinking of the willow mod as female author self-insertion.

Hobo on Fire
Dec 4, 2008

SolidSnakesBandana posted:

That's like saying that a highly detailed penis model with bump-mapped veins and anti-aliasing on the balls is extremely well done from a technical standpoint.

Pretty much. Perhaps I should have used the term "well crafted." If you are looking for a virtual girlfriend to follow you around the Mojave singing to herself and occasionally stripping for you, then the Willow mod is head and shoulders better than the competition. If that's not what you want, don't include it in your load order.

I've fiddled with the GECK enough that I can tell that a lot of time and care went into making that mod. I still think it's a turd, but it's without a doubt the most highly polished turd on the nexus. I give it credit for effort, if nothing else.

Jon Do posted:

It's very very weird to start thinking of the willow mod as female author self-insertion.

Agreed, but you never know what flavor of insanity you'll find on the :nexus:

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
Right, I'll stick to Sunny Smiles then

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

SolidSnakesBandana posted:

One important rule when modding these games (New Vegas, Skyrim) is that all companion and quest mods are utter garbage. Even the best one is worse than the worst quest. So far the only exception to this rule is Nehrim and they made an entire game out of it somehow.

Look how wrong you are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo7oU6qNae4
(Full disclosure: I made that.)

Also, Skyrim has a series of quest mods made by trainwiz, which are excellent.

As for New Vegas, you're probably right though.

Emberfox
Jan 15, 2005

~rero rero rero rero rero
I'm a sucker for quest mods, I'll admit. While there's nothing in the vein of Falskaar or Wyrmstooth, I enjoy stuff by Someguy and Puce Moose generally, and I'm interested in how Project Brazil is going to turn out (if it ever releases fully). Alton, IL for Fallout 3 is kind of neat, too, and TTW-compatible apparently. I can appreciate the effort some of the modders put in, even if they don't always have the most professional voice acting, since they are amateurs. However, I would never recommend them for a first playthrough, because they kill game balance, even if game balance is already dubiously fragile.

Avoid Beyond Boulder Dome and AWOP though, they are rancid poo poo. I can appreciate what AWOP tries to be, but it's so bloated at this point that it's just not worth it. It's a mod that would work better with Fallout 3 (and I know there is a Fallout 3 version of it).

Edit: Also Willow is a pretty well-made companion mod, though it's very bloated and unbalancing at this point (she gives you a perk that's basically Pack Rat, and I think it also stacks with it as well.). Russell's pretty decent too from what I heard. I generally don't go for companion mods, since I rarely use companions and I'm generally satisfied with the ones NV already has.

Emberfox fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jan 4, 2015

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Puce Moose is probably the best to go for if you don't want gaudy pop culture ripoffs or sudden inclusion of non-standard pornographic material. That said, Someguy has gotten better over time and New Vegas Bounties is hardly worse than what Fallout 2 had...

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002


I commend you sir. Can you give him a spell that summons a gang of NPC minions that all have trees for models? Happy little trees, with no damage capabilities, just damage mitigation spells for the PC/bob and heals. Happy trees.

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."
I burned through NV a couple of years ago, so I'm playing it carefully now and of course spending more time loving with mods than it would take me to complete the game. Basically focusing on appearance now, so I've got NMC+Old Bueno, weapon/clothes bouncing between Project Reality (great but NPC's tend to get ghost-face with this mod in the open) and Nevada Skies, etc.

One small graphical aspect though really stands out which I haven't found a texture replacement for - the hands. Everything looks great but you have the lowest res texture staring right at you constantly, I haven't found any replacement for the hands (with or without armour gloves) - is there one?

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."
I'll update the OP with LOOT and poo poo later tonight when I get home, you drat babies

Mr E
Sep 18, 2007

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

I'll update the OP with LOOT and poo poo later tonight when I get home, you drat babies

I feel scared going to the Nexus without a helpful goon guide.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Mr E posted:

I feel scared going to the Nexus without a helpful goon guide.

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Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

SplitSoul posted:

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You should put this image throughout the OP, Cream of Plenty.

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