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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Let's be honest, the books people are going to check out from their library and then ignore read are going to be the trashiest, lowest-effort books possible. It'd be a miracle if anyone actually picks up anything except gerne trash or Harry Potter.

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mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

T-man posted:

Let's be honest, the books people are going to check out from their library and then ignore read are going to be the trashiest, lowest-effort books possible. It'd be a miracle if anyone actually picks up anything except gerne trash or Harry Potter.

Why'd you separate Harry Potter and genre trash. :smug:

lowercase16
Apr 19, 2008

Cyclops actually has two eyes.

T-man posted:

Let's be honest, the books people are going to check out from their library and then ignore read are going to be the trashiest, lowest-effort books possible. It'd be a miracle if anyone actually picks up anything except gerne trash or Harry Potter.

I really need to catch up on That Guy in your MFA on Twitter. Thanks for reminding me!

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

MC Eating Disorder posted:

As a dude who reads a book a week on average, I disagree and think its some dumb poo poo made up by people who are boring as hell. I'm not really accusing him of hypocrisy, its just amazingly myopic to say that books are inherently more fulfilling than other forms of media. Its on par with saying vinyl sounds "warmer" there's no actual objective statement here, its an opinion, and not a very useful one. There's plenty of garbage novels and non-fiction books and I'd be willing to bet they outnumber the worthwhile contributions to human knowledge and literature. I know I'm probably taking a dudes resolution to read a bit more way too seriously but its just a pet peeve of mine.

I think another snag is that books aren't the only thing you can read. I don't read as many books as I used to but that's because Wikipedia is a thing that exists and let me tell you, I read the gently caress out of Wikipedia.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I think another snag is that books aren't the only thing you can read. I don't read as many books as I used to but that's because Wikipedia is a thing that exists and let me tell you, I read the gently caress out of Wikipedia.

People are incredibly unimpressed when you tell them this for some reason so I just started saying I read a lot of non-fiction.

Zeitgueist
Aug 8, 2003

by Ralp

Cognac McCarthy posted:

I don't know how/where to make smilies expand like I see sometimes, but this needs an :ironicat: the size of the entire campus of whatever lovely college this guy went to.

Business major :smugdog:

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

mr. mephistopheles posted:

People are incredibly unimpressed when you tell them this for some reason so I just started saying I read a lot of non-fiction.

Yeah but if you read a poo poo load of Wikipedia you can impress people with your encyclopedic amount of utterly useless knowledge instead!

Cognac McCarthy
Oct 5, 2008

It's a man's game, but boys will play

Zeitgueist posted:

Business major :smugdog:

Evo psych is the perfect pairing then.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
Is watching TV better, or worse, than mostly reading posts on the Something Awful forums?

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Swan Oat posted:

Is watching TV better, or worse, than mostly reading posts on the Something Awful forums?

You can't punch up reading SA posts like you can with television. Besides that, people look down on you less for that.

'Yeah, I'm catching up on all the hyped shows that won an obscene amount of emmys and grammys like Breaking Bad yadda yadda yadda.'

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Swan Oat posted:

Is watching TV better, or worse, than mostly reading posts on the Something Awful forums?

If you're just reading its about neutral, but as soon as you start posting you're in the negative because you have moved from passive consumption to active production of tripe.

For instance, this whole thread is composed of people continuing to propagate terrible stuff that should never have been typed in the first place.

Parachute
May 18, 2003
Where does closed-captioning fit in to this?

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

Swan Oat posted:

Is watching TV better, or worse, than mostly reading posts on the Something Awful forums?

As someone who watches such prestigious shows as Sons of Anarchy, Pretty Little Liars, and Reign, I can tell you I'd probably lose more respect from coworkers and peers from telling them I lurk on SA than the TV shows I watch.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Ashcans posted:

For instance, the entire internet is composed of people continuing to propagate terrible stuff that should never have been typed in the first place.

Chimera-gui
Mar 20, 2014
Oi and now said relative is babbling about "enrichment" in my own life despite the fact that the term isn't applied for humans in the same way it's applied for cats & dogs. :ughh:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal


Company towns and scrip: actually socialism.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Guavanaut posted:



Company towns and scrip: actually socialism.

General loving Motors

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Chimera-gui posted:

Oi and now said relative is babbling about "enrichment" in my own life despite the fact that the term isn't applied for humans in the same way it's applied for cats & dogs. :ughh:

books r good but I know plenty of people who are functionally illiterate and lead fulfilling lives

Chimera-gui
Mar 20, 2014
It doesn't help that said relative thinks that human enrichment is stimulus like animal enrichment rather than what human enrichment actually is, satisfaction.

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

Guavanaut posted:



Company towns and scrip: actually socialism.

When capitalists can't sell you a product, they'll work to undermine consumer confidence in their competitors through FUD campaigns and dazzle people with marketing blitzes because advertising is almost always cheaper and more cost-effective than actually changing a product design substantially.

When socialists can't sell you a product, they'll say 'oh yeah, we're socialists, why were we even trying to sell you poo poo in the first place? You already get a free monthly allotment of this stuff!'

Or, more realistically, when talking about actually-existing US socialists:

When socialists can't sell you a product, it's because no one buys print newspapers anymore.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
I just had a weird conversation with a coworker. He's hard conservative, probably leans tea party. I've posted some of his facebook shares here before. The conversation started with us trash talking the SEC (college football), then it suddenly ended up talking about the new law Texas is trying to put through, which essentially makes all federal laws null and void (hint: it's to avoid federal gun laws!). He said it was a good thing since the feds have been pushing Texas around too much and it was time to take a stand. I responded with that it leads down a slippery path of civil war, but I doubt we'd get to the point of shooting each other. He said that's probably true, but that there's "disturbing" news that Army Generals were being asked if they were willing to fire on American citizens, and if they answered no, they would be dismissed or forced to retire.

The second one has been going around for ages (since the invention of mass internet consumption) and the top two hits on my search were articles from InfoWars and TheBlaze. I really have no idea how to respond to the Texas law thing.

Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!

seiferguy posted:

I really have no idea how to respond to the Texas law thing.

Stand in front of him and say "God bless Texas" and then blow your brains out. Honestly, there is nothing you can do.

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

seiferguy posted:

I just had a weird conversation with a coworker. He's hard conservative, probably leans tea party. I've posted some of his facebook shares here before. The conversation started with us trash talking the SEC (college football), then it suddenly ended up talking about the new law Texas is trying to put through, which essentially makes all federal laws null and void (hint: it's to avoid federal gun laws!). He said it was a good thing since the feds have been pushing Texas around too much and it was time to take a stand. I responded with that it leads down a slippery path of civil war, but I doubt we'd get to the point of shooting each other. He said that's probably true, but that there's "disturbing" news that Army Generals were being asked if they were willing to fire on American citizens, and if they answered no, they would be dismissed or forced to retire.

The second one has been going around for ages (since the invention of mass internet consumption) and the top two hits on my search were articles from InfoWars and TheBlaze. I really have no idea how to respond to the Texas law thing.

No one who would answer 'no' to that question would have ever received general's stars in the first place, the US military has been firing on American citizens for almost literally as long as they have existed. Seriously, the first time federal soldiers put down an armed rebellion, George loving Washington was still in office. The Army Air Corps dropped bombs and poison gas on striking miners in the 1920s and firebombed black neighborhoods in support of lynch mobs during the Tulsa race riots, and everyone's heard of Kent State and Ludlow, although those were both National Guard rather than regular army. None of the tea party types really care or even bother to learn about those events, because it doesn't fit with their constructed narrative of history, but seriously, if the order ever comes down to the military to shoot you, they're gonna shoot you, buddy, whether you support are trups or not.

As for the Texas nullification thing, you can always point out that they only won 'independence' from Mexico with US support and applied for annexation almost immediately, as had been the plan from the beginning; Texas was always an imperialist adventure, it was never actually intended to be an independent country permanently. Hell, Sam Houston was a Unionist during the Civil War. For that matter, you could always ask about the Civil War itself - the last time Texas tried nullifying federal authority it didn't exactly go very well, now did it?

Scruff McGruff
Feb 13, 2007

Jesus, kid, you're almost a detective. All you need now is a gun, a gut, and three ex-wives.

seiferguy posted:

I just had a weird conversation with a coworker. He's hard conservative, probably leans tea party. I've posted some of his facebook shares here before. The conversation started with us trash talking the SEC (college football), then it suddenly ended up talking about the new law Texas is trying to put through, which essentially makes all federal laws null and void (hint: it's to avoid federal gun laws!). He said it was a good thing since the feds have been pushing Texas around too much and it was time to take a stand. I responded with that it leads down a slippery path of civil war, but I doubt we'd get to the point of shooting each other. He said that's probably true, but that there's "disturbing" news that Army Generals were being asked if they were willing to fire on American citizens, and if they answered no, they would be dismissed or forced to retire.

The second one has been going around for ages (since the invention of mass internet consumption) and the top two hits on my search were articles from InfoWars and TheBlaze. I really have no idea how to respond to the Texas law thing.

I just got another military worship one today about ARE BRAVE GENERALS STANDING UP TO NOBABA.

Which of course has the usual recursion of The Political Insider links its source to Wounded American Warrior, which links its source to Conservative Tribune which just links to itself repeatedly.

The same person also posted this which I thought was pretty funny. She alternates between insisting that because of OBAMAs failures we're all about to die from Ebola and saying "hmm, isn't it mighty suspicious that the Ebola crisis is suddenly gone?! Maybe it was just a ruse to distract us!"

That's all it is too, it's not even a link to something. That is the entirety of the post on the other dude's facebook. I almost want to reply "It's not being reported by any news..." but I feel like that would just prove her point somehow.

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

Scruff McGruff posted:

I just got another military worship one today about ARE BRAVE GENERALS STANDING UP TO NOBABA.


'Man, a military coup sure would be awesome! gently caress this whole 'republic' thing, let's get a military junta going!' <- all I'm able to think when people post stuff like this.


Scruff McGruff posted:


That's all it is too, it's not even a link to something. That is the entirety of the post on the other dude's facebook. I almost want to reply "It's not being reported by any news..." but I feel like that would just prove her point somehow.

In the mind of the conspiracy theorist, absence of evidence of the conspiracy is frequently interpreted as further evidence of the conspiracy, because it just shows how good they are at covering things up.

musclecoder
Oct 23, 2006

I'm all about meeting girls. I'm all about meeting guys.

Scruff McGruff posted:

The same person also posted this which I thought was pretty funny. She alternates between insisting that because of OBAMAs failures we're all about to die from Ebola and saying "hmm, isn't it mighty suspicious that the Ebola crisis is suddenly gone?! Maybe it was just a ruse to distract us!"

That's all it is too, it's not even a link to something. That is the entirety of the post on the other dude's facebook. I almost want to reply "It's not being reported by any news..." but I feel like that would just prove her point somehow.

It's another case of the US Government being both incredibly incompetent at every aspect of life and so competent they can cover up every conspiracy ever.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Mister Bates posted:

'Man, a military coup sure would be awesome! gently caress this whole 'republic' thing, let's get a military junta going!' <- all I'm able to think when people post stuff like this.
But we already have a military junta, because I don't like the guy who won. :qq:

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Icon understand the sentiment. I felt the same way when W was in office. And it is pretty well culturally enshrined that people like me felt the same way when Reagan was in office. And what do you know? Same trend appears on the right with Clinton. Now,what the right does is actually bad. Um not arguing towards the middle. I'm just saying i understand their emotional state.

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

Shbobdb posted:

Icon understand the sentiment. I felt the same way when W was in office. And it is pretty well culturally enshrined that people like me felt the same way when Reagan was in office. And what do you know? Same trend appears on the right with Clinton. Now,what the right does is actually bad. Um not arguing towards the middle. I'm just saying i understand their emotional state.

Well, yeah, I wanted W out of office, but I didn't want the US military to seize power and forcibly remove him from office. I understand the desire to get 'the other team's guy' out, but all the wanking over the idea of 'ARE TRUPS' removing the Kenyan Islamoatheist Homonazi Usurper from office through force of arms is...well, weird. The desire to be saved from the 'evil dictator' by having an all-powerful higher authority come in and enclose us in the comforting iron fist of an absolute dictatorship seems a little contradictory.

TheLoquid
Nov 5, 2008

Scruff McGruff posted:

The same person also posted this which I thought was pretty funny. She alternates between insisting that because of OBAMAs failures we're all about to die from Ebola and saying "hmm, isn't it mighty suspicious that the Ebola crisis is suddenly gone?! Maybe it was just a ruse to distract us!"

That's all it is too, it's not even a link to something. That is the entirety of the post on the other dude's facebook. I almost want to reply "It's not being reported by any news..." but I feel like that would just prove her point somehow.

I mean she's so close to being right about why Ebola went away, she's just attributing it to the wrong actor

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Mister Bates posted:

Well, yeah, I wanted W out of office, but I didn't want the US military to seize power and forcibly remove him from office. I understand the desire to get 'the other team's guy' out, but all the wanking over the idea of 'ARE TRUPS' removing the Kenyan Islamoatheist Homonazi Usurper from office through force of arms is...well, weird. The desire to be saved from the 'evil dictator' by having an all-powerful higher authority come in and enclose us in the comforting iron fist of an absolute dictatorship seems a little contradictory.

But I like that iron fist.
It is the same color as me and fulfills the same interests as me.

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

TheLoquid posted:

I mean she's so close to being right about why Ebola went away, she's just attributing it to the wrong actor

The populist right seems to do that a lot, where they get so close to actually understanding a problem and then it's like they run into some sort of mental block and veer away from it as fast as they can.

Chimera-gui
Mar 20, 2014
Now that relative seems to think I don't enrich my life because I have different hobbies than they do nevermind what MC Eating Disorder said already. :bang:

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Rigged Death Trap posted:

But I like that iron fist.
It is the same color as me and fulfills the same interests as me.

Maybe teabaggers wouldn't be as avid as WWII Polish and German citizens in turning in their neighbors to the secret police. Maybe that wouldn't be the high point of their entire lives.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Mister Bates posted:

In the mind of the conspiracy theorist, absence of evidence of the conspiracy is frequently interpreted as further evidence of the conspiracy, because it just shows how good they are at covering things up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w5JqQLqqTc

Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Chimera-gui posted:

Now that relative seems to think I don't enrich my life because I have different hobbies than they do nevermind what MC Eating Disorder said already. :bang:
Ugh
"You'll understand when YOU have children/own a house/graduate college/get married etc"
Basically: "I know more than you because reasons."

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)

Duke Igthorn posted:

Ugh
"You'll understand when YOU have children/own a house/graduate college/get married etc"
Basically: "I know more than you because reasons."

Those reasons being bitterness, greed, and 'gently caress you, got mine'.

Chimera-gui
Mar 20, 2014
Oh it gets better, now I'm told to apologize to said relative for trying to them off after the relative in question told me that I was "becoming a vegetable" multiple times. They talk about me being the vile one yet they don't get that they are no better.

Chimera-gui fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jan 6, 2015

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



I heard some really weird anti-Lincoln, unironic confederate apologism on New Year's day. This was from a very devout Roman-Catholic who has live his entire life in Michigan. He was extremely angry about it, called Lincoln a "ghoul", went on and on about the blood on his hands, and blathered about how the Civil War was entirely preventable, eventually reaching a crescendo with "and he dared call himself a Republican" (:v:). When I talked to my friend about it he said that his father-in-law had been on a similar tangent. I didn't see anything in the thread and I'm wondering if this was something that had been making the rounds in the talks shows.

Notable Points:
-Lincoln started the Civil War for no reason than to establish his legacy.
-All slaves were for sale and the North had the money to but them but didn't.
-The industrial revolution would have made slavery obsolete and therefore all slaves would be freed.

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Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun
That's the strangest revisionist history I've ever heard.

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