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Extra posted:Yes and it shows full size sedans, full size SUVs, standard pick-up trucks and vans are significantly safer than compacts, sub-compacts, compact trucks, and mid-size SUVs during the most notorious era of SUV rollovers. Yes, of the era. Newer vehicles are better across the board. Who the gently caress are you arguing with? You will not win this one. Watch those IIHS videos linked earlier, you've got some things backwards.
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Jan 6, 2015 10:17
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What the crikey poo poo happened in here
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Jan 4, 2020 |
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Jan 6, 2015 10:26
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Apparently mid sized cars and minvans are safer than any of those   Basically says that some really cruddy sub-compact models (Cavalier, Neon, Escort) skewed those results (i.e. you're fine in a Civic) and pickup trucks and sports cars are the worst categories for various reasons Anyway as this is not a thread for ranting I'm going to shut up now
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Jan 6, 2015 10:29
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http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr4605.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PSmY9B9x1c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgxpGCib0PY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRU8bJOvEE8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrHYl9D5CTI puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 10:55 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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Jan 6, 2015 10:38
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Automotive Insanity > I'm going to post terrible rant stuff anyway
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Jan 6, 2015 11:15
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So a Miata is safer than a Nissan Titan? I'm not sure where you are going with that poo poo. All things being equal I suppose a larger vehicle properly engineered is safer than a smaller vehicle, within certain boundaries, but the difference between mainstream non-commercial vehicles isn't really that large anyway, you would have to look at outliers to get any sort of measurable effect. Of course the best part is that to the average shitbird can't tell anything about the actual structure of the vehicle just by looking at the size, so some horrible American body on frame garbage truck with pot metal A and B pillars that will turn everything inside into hamburger as soon as the oxcart live axle rear hits a bump and flips the stupid piece of poo poo over is obviously more safe than a properly built Subaru or Volvo.
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Jan 6, 2015 11:35
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My point was that "a big suv is safer than an old compact" isn't true at all because big suvs and trucks can be hilariously unsafe just as often. but hey what the gently caress do i know im just a dumb pissbaby who pretends to know about cars for all the MASSIVE E-CREDIT it will bring me on this internet forum i should just kill myself to better the dialogue amirite?
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Jan 6, 2015 11:42
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Fucknag posted:My point was that "a big suv is safer than an old compact" isn't true at all because big suvs and trucks can be hilariously unsafe just as often. No but you see if I draw the target on the side of the barn after I've fired at it, every one of my shots will be bullseyes!
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Jan 6, 2015 12:02
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Who cares, SUVs don't even exist anymore. They're all just lifted wagons at this point.
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Jan 6, 2015 13:09
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FogHelmut posted:Who cares, SUVs don't even exist anymore. They're all just lifted wagons at this point. Because the old ones were so unsafe! 
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Jan 6, 2015 15:01
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Eat poo poo subcompact driving poors.
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Jan 6, 2015 15:04
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Guys, stop arguing with Extra, he likes the attention and needs a psychologist not an internet argument to fap to.
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Jan 6, 2015 15:32
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There's no point anyway, the solution is simple. In a crash involving two vehicles the bigger one is safer, so every car needs to be bigger than all the others. Its easy
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Jan 6, 2015 15:47
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Terrible car stuff:
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Jan 6, 2015 16:08
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They actually sold Neons without airbags in them.
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Jan 6, 2015 16:23
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xzzy posted:They actually sold Neons without airbags in them. Yeah but that's probably an airbag steering wheel, judging from the bulge.
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Jan 6, 2015 16:25
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Extra posted:She's not wrong, who's going to gently caress with a massive vehicle? Massive vehicles are also much safer. Terrible car stuff is people driving tiny little old shitboxes and getting hurt, driving up insurance/healthcare costs for the rest of us. If you can't afford a large safe vehicle you should just scrap your car and grab a bus pass. http://www.mgexp.com/article/nice-drive.html
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Jan 6, 2015 16:50
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Yeah but that's probably an airbag steering wheel, judging from the bulge. Front airbags didn't/don't always deploy from side impacts, right? Maybe it got hit from the side initially and the damage was severe enough to prevent the front bag from deploying during the rest of the crash. Or it didn't work because its a neon, a car that was terrible when new and hasn't improved.
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Jan 6, 2015 17:06
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I'd love to see that chart reorganized by how many deaths per actual models of each car which I think is a lot more relevant. It's hard to consider "small" cars unsafe because the Corolla racked up as many deaths as the Sentra, but there are 3 million corollas and not even 300k Sentras in that study. All this article tells me is that some manufacturers make safer vehicles than others. And speaking of terrible car stuff, it snowed in D.C. today and the roads were a disaster. On my short commute to work I saw an old Saturn with pretty bald tires and a Yaris with a donut on the front left. At least the Saturn had the sense to turn his hazards on while he crawled along in the right lane at 5 mph. Edit: What I love about that article is that sure most of the big SUV's single-vehicle deaths nearly 100% of the time also involve rollovers, but somehow 90% of the Corvette ones do too. Go big or go home. davebo fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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Jan 6, 2015 17:12
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Great Beer posted:Front airbags didn't/don't always deploy from side impacts, right? Maybe it got hit from the side initially and the damage was severe enough to prevent the front bag from deploying during the rest of the crash. A late '90s Chrysler thing maybe? My family had a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee in '97 and we were on our way to a camping trip towing, I think, a 24' camper and got in an accident with it and the airbags didn't go off. Chrysler said that the impact wasn't enough to set them off. But it was a front impact and the thing basically got sandwiched between a tree, and the camper in tow and the damage was enough to total the vehicle. It was probably better off that they didn't go off since those early years of airbags were pretty nasty and as nasty as the crash was the five of us in the car were completely unharmed. For Terrible Car Stuff, the accident referred to above: We were in the right hand lane of a two lane highway with a dirt shoulder. The highway was crowded because it was a Friday afternoon in the summer and people were traveling for the weekend. We were passed by a standard Ford work van who was traveling down the dirt shoulder. He changed "lanes" back onto the tarmac a foot too soon, clipped the front end of our Jeep and we began to fishtale. Went back and forth across the highway probably 3 times, the third time hitting a guardrail, but the guardrail was similar to the one pictured below, starting from the ground, which was good since it didn't go spearing through the middle of our car but bad because instead of stopping us we did like a 50/50 grind up the guardrail then came off of it into a tree. Bonus terrible car stuff was the guy was driving his brother's van with no license and his pregnant girlfriend was in the passenger seat. He tried to say we ran him off the road but apparently he had passed a number of other cars in the dirt as well and they all stopped to back us up which was cool. But also they thought we were all dead so they stopped to help anybody who actually survived, luckily nobody was hurt. 
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Jan 6, 2015 17:40
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wesley snypes posted:There's no point anyway, the solution is simple. In a crash involving two vehicles the bigger one is safer, so every car needs to be bigger than all the others. Its easy  I actually would like one of these, the gun can be demil'd (stupid Washington laws) but yeah, street-legal that big bitch and DD. And a big "bumper sticker" for the back, plasma-cut out of diamond plate: HUMMERS ARE FOR PUSSIES  <- terrible car stuff
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:And a big "bumper sticker" for the back, plasma-cut out of diamond plate: HUMMERS ARE FOR DICKS FTFY Edit: you know what, it works both ways, I am an idiot.
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Jan 6, 2015 19:12
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Extra posted:http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr4605.pdf You seriously need to shut the gently caress up and get out of ai
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Jan 6, 2015 19:16
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Enough about boring statistics let's get back to mothers and driving. I briefly tried to learn driving manual with my mother as a teen. My mother was a firm believer that you're driving wrong if the engine exceeds 2,000 RPM. The result of this was my mother screaming that I needed to be in 5th as I tried to bring her gutless corolla up to 100kph to merge onto a highway.
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Jan 6, 2015 19:18
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1500quidporsche posted:Enough about boring statistics let's get back to mothers and driving. My mom taught me to double clutch. But she'd also phantom brake and brace against the door handle if I passed a semi with more than a 2 mph speed differential.
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Jan 6, 2015 19:30
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joat mon posted:My mom taught me to double clutch. My mother didn't know about engine braking and told me to put in the clutch with the brake at all times. Seems rather silly looking back. I had a friend who used to phantom brake, he's no longer my friend.
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Jan 6, 2015 19:32
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 Aw, jesus christ. Also this lovely single shear configuration on a lifted cherokee looks like it's about to go 
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Jan 6, 2015 19:35
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1500quidporsche posted:My mother didn't know about engine braking and told me to put in the clutch with the brake at all times. Seems rather silly looking back. I phantom brake when my wife is driving all the time. I try to not make it noticeable. I'm the kind of person who gets the majority of my braking done early; she likes to slowly increase pedal pressure until she comes to a stop.
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Jan 6, 2015 19:38
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Safety Dance posted:I phantom brake when my wife is driving all the time. I try to not make it noticeable. I'm the kind of person who gets the majority of my braking done early; she likes to slowly increase pedal pressure until she comes to a stop. On our recent drives from California to Washington and back, I had to continually restrain myself from shouting "STAY OFF THE GODDAMN SHOULDER" and "QUIT PUMPING THE loving GAS PEDAL" whenever my wife would drive. In the interests of marital harmony I kept my mouth shut except for a few times when she was blatantly riding up someone's rear end. It's not just me noticing the gas pedal thing, right? Sometimes I'll be riding with someone and realize they seem to be maintaining speed by hitting the gas for a second or two, then letting off completely, then pressing the pedal again, then letting off, ad infinitum while your head and torso roll back and forward like a loving bobblehead doll. It's like they run it up a few mph over, then coast down, then do it all over again instead of finding a pedal position that holds the right speed (or just using loving cruise control)
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I phantom brake, the whole 9 yards. I think its a mix of me being the worst passenger ever and exclusively dating the worst drivers in the world apparently. I just keep my face buried in my phone and pray the airbags don't kill me. It's like people's comfort zone these days is so close you can't read the licence plate of the car in front of you.
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Jan 6, 2015 20:11
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SaNChEzZ posted:
We saw another trailer with this lettering on the side in 2010 on our NYC roadtrip. Apparently there was a truck stop in Texas called the "Jesus Christ is Lord Truck Stop."
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Jan 6, 2015 20:21
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Trailer underride guards are pretty terrible things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3MPKLy9qHU That and the flatbed tow trucks without actual rear bumpers I've been seeing around here that look like mobile guillotines.
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Jan 6, 2015 20:32
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I was going to put this in the other thread until I saw the interior because it's got some lovely styling (tail end is questionable but I think other angles look great): http://renovomotors.com/the-coupe/ All controls on a touch screen? Yeah there's no issues at all with that, people have definitely proven capable of maintaining control of their vehicle while not watching the road. So we better toss that into a car that does 0-60 in 3.4 seconds.
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Jan 6, 2015 20:50
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xzzy posted:tail end is questionable That looks like the same tail as the Daytona it's based on.
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Jan 6, 2015 20:54
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Maker Of Shoes posted:That looks like the same tail as the Daytona it's based on. Maybe, it seems to me they scalloped it out a bit more and it just looks weird to me.
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Jan 6, 2015 20:58
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xzzy posted:I was going to put this in the other thread until I saw the interior because it's got some lovely styling (tail end is questionable but I think other angles look great): If I could afford it I'd have a tesla S, but that gigantic touchscreen they think is so great is a stupid idea. I can control any part of my car by touch currently without taking my eyes of the road, no-one can do that with a touchscreen.
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Jan 6, 2015 21:06
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Yep, you want nice big buttons and knobs you can identify/use pretty much by feel for your "normal" stuff. I don't mind touchscreen for things that aren't really likely to be instantly needed while moving, though, like specific car settings and things like that.
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I like the concept, but yeah, gently caress the all touchscreen control setup.
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